[GRASS-user] value differences between landsat images

On 5/20/08 8:24 PM, "grass-user-request@lists.osgeo.org"
<grass-user-request@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:44:51 -0700
From: Jonathan Greenberg <greenberg@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] value differences between landsat images
To: Juan Manuel Barreneche <jumanbar@gmail.com>
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Juan:

It just means your images aren't radiometrically normalized to one
another. If you correctly normalize them you won't see a line in the
mosaic.

I'll bite. How do you radiometrically normalize adjacent Landsat images. I'd
love to get rid of the lines.

Michael

Hamish
    
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Use the overlap region to pick PIFs (pseudoinvariant features), run a regression between the band values of the PIFs between one image and the other, apply the regression coefficients, and voila! If you just assume the entire overlap region is fine (no clouds or changed pixels), and they are orthorectified to one another, then you can extract the entire overlap region and run the regression on all those pixels.

The other way is to calculate the mean and stdev of the band values, and adjust them that way, but I always felt the regression approach is a little more straightforward.

There's a few automated algorithms out there to do this -- anyone want to write some code for it :slight_smile: ?

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?sourceid=Mozilla-search&q=radiometric+normalization+"remote+sensing"

Canty's got some IDL code to do radiometric normalization that can be downloaded -- IDL's an easy language to read, so the code should be easy to port to something GRASS could use: http://www.crcpress.com/e_products/downloads/download.asp?cat_no=7251

--j

Michael Barton wrote:

On 5/20/08 8:24 PM, "grass-user-request@lists.osgeo.org"
<grass-user-request@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:44:51 -0700
From: Jonathan Greenberg <greenberg@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] value differences between landsat images
To: Juan Manuel Barreneche <jumanbar@gmail.com>
Cc: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Message-ID: <48331C23.8070705@ucdavis.edu>
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Juan:

It just means your images aren't radiometrically normalized to one
another. If you correctly normalize them you won't see a line in the
mosaic.

I'll bite. How do you radiometrically normalize adjacent Landsat images. I'd
love to get rid of the lines.

Michael

Hamish
    

JM
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Director of Graduate Studies
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University

phone: 480-965-6213
fax: 480-965-7671
www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton

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Thanks. This is very helpful.

Michael

On 5/20/08 11:29 PM, "Jonathan Greenberg" <greenberg@ucdavis.edu> wrote:

Use the overlap region to pick PIFs (pseudoinvariant features), run a
regression between the band values of the PIFs between one image and the
other, apply the regression coefficients, and voila! If you just assume
the entire overlap region is fine (no clouds or changed pixels), and
they are orthorectified to one another, then you can extract the entire
overlap region and run the regression on all those pixels.

The other way is to calculate the mean and stdev of the band values, and
adjust them that way, but I always felt the regression approach is a
little more straightforward.

There's a few automated algorithms out there to do this -- anyone want
to write some code for it :slight_smile: ?

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?sourceid=Mozilla-search&q=radiometric+normal
ization+%22remote+sensing%22

Canty's got some IDL code to do radiometric normalization that can be
downloaded -- IDL's an easy language to read, so the code should be easy
to port to something GRASS could use:
http://www.crcpress.com/e_products/downloads/download.asp?cat_no=7251

--j

Michael Barton wrote:

On 5/20/08 8:24 PM, "grass-user-request@lists.osgeo.org"
<grass-user-request@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:44:51 -0700
From: Jonathan Greenberg <greenberg@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] value differences between landsat images
To: Juan Manuel Barreneche <jumanbar@gmail.com>
Cc: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Message-ID: <48331C23.8070705@ucdavis.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Juan:

It just means your images aren't radiometrically normalized to one
another. If you correctly normalize them you won't see a line in the
mosaic.

I'll bite. How do you radiometrically normalize adjacent Landsat images. I'd
love to get rid of the lines.

Michael

Hamish
    

JM
-------------------------------------------------------

__________________________________________
Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
Director of Graduate Studies
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University

phone: 480-965-6213
fax: 480-965-7671
www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton

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__________________________________________
Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
Director of Graduate Studies
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University

phone: 480-965-6213
fax: 480-965-7671
www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton