[GRASS-user] where is MSYS in GRASS 7?

Hi folks,
I'm upgrading to 7.0.4 from 6.4.4 ... I used to be able to starts GRASS with MSYS unix console but now I don't get that option and the command console is a Windows "cmd" window... I can't find any settings anywhere to get GRASS 7.0.4 to start with a unix (shell) command console in Windows 7 like it did in version 6.4.4. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get the unix command console?
Thanks
:slight_smile:
Chris

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I can't find any settings anywhere to get GRASS 7.0.4 to start with a
unix (shell) command console in Windows 7 like it did in version 6.4.4.

AFAIK msys was dropped in winGRASS 7.

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Oh no .... that is really really bad (for me) ... does this mean all of my shell (sh) scripts have to be rewritten in python?
That may be a ridiculous amount of work ... So much for "upgrading".
I hope 6.4.4 is going to be around for a long time then. :frowning:

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I can't find any settings anywhere to get GRASS 7.0.4 to start with a
unix (shell) command console in Windows 7 like it did in version 6.4.4.

AFAIK msys was dropped in winGRASS 7.

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Hi,

2016-04-29 9:52 GMT+02:00 Bartolomei.Chris <Bartolomei.Chris@ensco.com>:

Oh no .... that is really really bad (for me) ... does this mean all of my shell (sh) scripts have to be rewritten in python?
That may be a ridiculous amount of work ... So much for "upgrading".
I hope 6.4.4 is going to be around for a long time then. :frowning:

it's easy to switch to msys. Install grass and msys from OSGeo4W. Edit
C:\OSGeo4W/apps/grassX/etc/env.bat.

REM set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

->

set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

Ma

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Thank you Martin - I'll try that
:slight_smile:
Chris

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Hi,

2016-04-29 9:52 GMT+02:00 Bartolomei.Chris <Bartolomei.Chris@ensco.com>:

Oh no .... that is really really bad (for me) ... does this mean all of my shell (sh) scripts have to be rewritten in python?
That may be a ridiculous amount of work ... So much for "upgrading".
I hope 6.4.4 is going to be around for a long time then. :frowning:

it's easy to switch to msys. Install grass and msys from OSGeo4W. Edit
C:\OSGeo4W/apps/grassX/etc/env.bat.

REM set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

->

set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

Ma

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Hi,

2016-04-29 9:52 GMT+02:00 Bartolomei.Chris <Bartolomei.Chris@ensco.com>:

Oh no .... that is really really bad (for me) ... does this mean all of my shell (sh) scripts have to be rewritten in python?
That may be a ridiculous amount of work ... So much for "upgrading".
I hope 6.4.4 is going to be around for a long time then. :frowning:

it's easy to switch to msys. Install grass and msys from OSGeo4W. Edit
C:\OSGeo4W/apps/grassX/etc/env.bat.

REM set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

-> > set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

Perhaps we should more prominently advertise that?
For now added to
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Grass7/NewFeatures#Scripts

Markus

Whew! ... thank you - that worked.
Just a couple notes: the C:\OSGeo4W/apps/grassX/etc/env.bat file did not have the GRASS_SH line in it so I just added it as you typed out and it works.
Also for anyone else trying this:
When installing GRASS from OSGEO4W, even if you select 7.0.4RC1 you still get 7.0.3 ... and if you install using the Express Desktop Install, you will need to go back and run the installer again, then select Advanced Installation and then in the Select Packages window, select msys and install that.
Not difficult nor time-consuming, but if you don't there's no msys on your system.

Thanks again!
:slight_smile:
Chris

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Hi,

2016-04-29 9:52 GMT+02:00 Bartolomei.Chris <Bartolomei.Chris@ensco.com>:

Oh no .... that is really really bad (for me) ... does this mean all of my shell (sh) scripts have to be rewritten in python?
That may be a ridiculous amount of work ... So much for "upgrading".
I hope 6.4.4 is going to be around for a long time then. :frowning:

it's easy to switch to msys. Install grass and msys from OSGeo4W. Edit
C:\OSGeo4W/apps/grassX/etc/env.bat.

REM set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

->

set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

Ma

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Good evening ... I've downloaded the OSGEO4W GRASS GIS 7.0.3 and msys ... and that works, but as I am trying to test my scripts the vector topology is no longer compatible (oh joy) so I am trying to use the steps provided on (https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Convert_all_GRASS_6_vector_maps_to_GRASS_7) only to find out that the module v.build.all looks like it is not compiled in their distribution ... there are a whole lot of modules in the C:\OSGEO4W64\apps\Grass\Grass-7.0.3\bin folder that are Windows Batch Files and not Applications, so when you try to run one of them the returned message is that the given module is not found... Is that the way the distribution should be ??? The python code is in C:\OSGEO4W64\apps\Grass\Grass-7.0.3\scripts ...
Thanks for any insight. (should I create a new thread?)
:slight_smile:
Chris

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On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

2016-04-29 9:52 GMT+02:00 Bartolomei.Chris <Bartolomei.Chris@ensco.com>:

Oh no .... that is really really bad (for me) ... does this mean all of my shell (sh) scripts have to be rewritten in python?
That may be a ridiculous amount of work ... So much for "upgrading".
I hope 6.4.4 is going to be around for a long time then. :frowning:

it's easy to switch to msys. Install grass and msys from OSGeo4W. Edit
C:\OSGeo4W/apps/grassX/etc/env.bat.

REM set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

-> > set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

Perhaps we should more prominently advertise that?
For now added to
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__trac.osgeo.org_grass_wiki_Grass7_NewFeatures-23Scripts&d=CwIBaQ&c=DsZY2bea7iNIzyp-7sZ0t0F2UfNQZUfZhEPCv_2wBI0&r=O31ltou6ygJL2Y01kQyNJJD2kiILIsbyz2V0Hn4lFUY&m=eSqGGjSXr0YxUswQSfgykYnDrmSPZLd9j9J6SVTJFrQ&s=IiLOmFa9eu-8VxCQPTFbXKK4alAalbMlwhbc35yi6YI&e=

Markus

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Hi Markus,

On Fri, 29. Apr 2016 at 11:38:29 +0200, Markus Neteler wrote:

> it's easy to switch to msys. Install grass and msys from OSGeo4W. Edit
> C:\OSGeo4W/apps/grassX/etc/env.bat.
>
> REM set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe
>
> -> > set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

This could be added to etc/ini/msys.bat in the msys package.

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Hi,

2016-04-29 18:46 GMT+02:00 Bartolomei.Chris <Bartolomei.Chris@ensco.com>:

Just a couple notes: the C:\OSGeo4W/apps/grassX/etc/env.bat file did not have the GRASS_SH line in it so I just added it as you typed out and it works.

right, I re-added this line recently, will be included in GRASS 7.0.4.

When installing GRASS from OSGEO4W, even if you select 7.0.4RC1 you still get 7.0.3 ... and if you install using the Express Desktop Install, you will need to go back and run the installer again, then select Advanced Installation and then in the Select Packages window, select msys and install that.

To install 7.0.4RC1 you need to choose Exp option (only available in
Advanced installation). Express Desktop option should offer only GRASS
7.0.3.

Ma

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Hi,

2016-04-30 12:04 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. <jef@norbit.de>:

> REM set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe
>
> -> > set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

This could be added to etc/ini/msys.bat in the msys package.

AFAIU this must be defined in the GRASS env file (so the file which is
loaded when GRASS is started - by bat file). Ma

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Hi Martin,

On Sat, 30. Apr 2016 at 13:49:20 +0200, Martin Landa wrote:

AFAIU this must be defined in the GRASS env file (so the file which is
loaded when GRASS is started - by bat file). Ma

grass70.bat calls o4w_env.bat which in turn calls all batch files in etc/ini

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Hi Helmut,
just an fyi ... I just downloaded and installed the GRASS 7.0.4 OSGEO4W64 (stable release) (and msys) and the GRASS_SH line is also not there... no biggie - its easy to add but thought you might want to know.
:slight_smile:
Chris

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Hi,

2016-04-29 18:46 GMT+02:00 Bartolomei.Chris <Bartolomei.Chris@ensco.com>:

Just a couple notes: the C:\OSGeo4W/apps/grassX/etc/env.bat file did not have the GRASS_SH line in it so I just added it as you typed out and it works.

right, I re-added this line recently, will be included in GRASS 7.0.4.

When installing GRASS from OSGEO4W, even if you select 7.0.4RC1 you still get 7.0.3 ... and if you install using the Express Desktop Install, you will need to go back and run the installer again, then select Advanced Installation and then in the Select Packages window, select msys and install that.

To install 7.0.4RC1 you need to choose Exp option (only available in
Advanced installation). Express Desktop option should offer only GRASS
7.0.3.

Ma

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Have a look at

https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/tags/release_20160501_grass_7_0_4/mswindows/osgeo4w/env.bat.tmpl#L7

it should be there

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Hi,

2016-05-03 21:48 GMT+02:00 Bartolomei.Chris <Bartolomei.Chris@ensco.com>:

Hi Helmut,
just an fyi ... I just downloaded and installed the GRASS 7.0.4 OSGEO4W64 (stable release) (and msys) and the GRASS_SH line is also not there... no biggie - its easy to add but thought you might want to know.

are you sure? There is

REM Uncomment if you want to use Bash instead of Cmd
REM Note that msys package must be also installed
REM set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

in c:/OSGeo4W64/apps/grass/grass-7.0.4/etc/env.bat. Martin

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Oh ... duh !! lol ... I was looking at the uncommented lines... yes, yes ... it's there ... oops. Sorry !! (too much salt water on the brain this morning... lol)
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Hi,

2016-05-03 21:48 GMT+02:00 Bartolomei.Chris <Bartolomei.Chris@ensco.com>:

Hi Helmut,
just an fyi ... I just downloaded and installed the GRASS 7.0.4 OSGEO4W64 (stable release) (and msys) and the GRASS_SH line is also not there... no biggie - its easy to add but thought you might want to know.

are you sure? There is

REM Uncomment if you want to use Bash instead of Cmd
REM Note that msys package must be also installed
REM set GRASS_SH=%OSGEO4W_ROOT%\apps\msys\bin\sh.exe

in c:/OSGeo4W64/apps/grass/grass-7.0.4/etc/env.bat. Martin

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