[GRASS5] Canadian mirror wanted

Hi all,

the current Canadian mirror seems to be out of sync for
some month. Is anyone willing to host a Canadian GRASS mirror
site (580MB required)? Otherwise I should "eliminate" Canada
from the mirror map and list...

Regards

Markus Neteler

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Markus Neteler wrote:

Hi all,

the current Canadian mirror seems to be out of sync for
some month. Is anyone willing to host a Canadian GRASS mirror
site (580MB required)? Otherwise I should "eliminate" Canada
from the mirror map and list...

Regards

Markus Neteler

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I may volunter but not before June.

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E-mail : lagace@grr.ulaval.ca

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I'm walking through glass on this one guys...

I have tried for the better part of 24hours to get GDAL to compile _and_
work with grass.

Not only do I need it for work, but I can't see how you can trust my
binaries if r.in.gdal fails routinely.

This is the latest cvs version of GDAL (1.1.5) and grass release candidate
5_0_0.

I get a consistent "ERROR: Unable to initialize GDAL bridge (check
libgdal installation)." from grass AND the bridge_test in GDAL fails
with a similar message. I was able to get a real result only once, (after
at least one hundred failures).

The system is suse 7.1, I have not installed anything exotic so I can't
see how the system might be affecting this issue.

If anyone has any idea on what I can check to deal with this, I would
welcome it.

Thanks,
Matt Berglund

P.S. If it is something stupid, please remember I am not the sharpest tool
in the shed.

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Other pertinent information that I should have included in the previous
post is:

I have tried the binary package of GDAL with the my grass compile: failure
I have tried the variations on the compilation of GDAL: failure

Is python _required_ for the gdal bridge to work. If so, that could be the
reason. I do not have all the headers required for a compile of GDAL with
python.

Grass and tcltkgrass seem to work just dandily.

NVIZ still fails with:

The papers are available at
http://www2.gis.uiuc.edu:2280/modviz/
Unable to load map
Unable to load map
Loading Data
child killed: segmentation violation
    while executing
"exec /usr/local/grass5/etc/nviz2.2/NVWISH2.2 -f
/usr/local/grass5/etc/nviz2.2/scripts/nviz2.2_script elevation=4117ne1.1
-name NVIZ >&@stdout"
    ("eval" body line 1)
    invoked from within
"eval exec $env(GISBASE)/etc/nviz2.2/NVWISH2.2 -f
$env(GISBASE)/etc/nviz2.2/scripts/nviz2.2_script $CMD -name NVIZ >&@stdout
"
    (file "/usr/local/grass5/bin/nviz2.2" line 92)

Finished

But it should be noted that there is no elevation data for 4117ne1.1, so
why is it looking for some?

In any event, this is what I have found, if it is usefull, please let me
know. If not, please don't throw tomatoes!

Later,
Matt

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mberglund wrote:

I'm walking through glass on this one guys...

I have tried for the better part of 24hours to get GDAL to compile _and_
work with grass.

Not only do I need it for work, but I can't see how you can trust my
binaries if r.in.gdal fails routinely.

This is the latest cvs version of GDAL (1.1.5) and grass release candidate
5_0_0.

I get a consistent "ERROR: Unable to initialize GDAL bridge (check
libgdal installation)." from grass AND the bridge_test in GDAL fails
with a similar message. I was able to get a real result only once, (after
at least one hundred failures).

The system is suse 7.1, I have not installed anything exotic so I can't
see how the system might be affecting this issue.

If anyone has any idea on what I can check to deal with this, I would

r.in.gdal isn't directly linked against the GDAL library; instead, it
does a run-time link using dlopen()[1]. It looks for the library under
the following names:

  libgdal.1.1.so
  gdal.1.0.so
  gdal.so.1.0
  libgdal.so.1

For each of the above names, it looks for:

  $GISBASE/lib/<name>
  $GDAL_HOME/<name>
  <name>

The last of these should (on Linux, at least) cause the library to be
looked for in the usual places (ld.so.cache, $LD_LIBRARY_PATH).

For each filename/directory combination, it queries the symbol
"GDALOpen" from the specified file.

So, the main things to check are that the library exists under one of
the above names, and that either:

a) it's in a directory listed in /etc/ld.so.conf, and "ldconfig" has
been run since it was put there, or

b) it's in a directory listed in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH, or

c) it's in $GISBASE/lib.

I wouldn't recommend using $GDAL_HOME; it just results in one more
thing for users to deal with (see the thread on "$PAGER").

[1] Furthermore, it calls dlopen() at least 69 times; once for each
function it wishes to use. It's actually 68+N times, where N is the
number of attempts at finding the library (max 12).

Does anyone mind if I re-write gdalbridge.c and gbgetsymbol.c so that
dlopen/LoadLibrary and dlsym/GetProcAddress are separate functions?

Or, better still, can't we just link directly against libgdal?

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mberglund wrote:

Other pertinent information that I should have included in the previous
post is:

I have tried the binary package of GDAL with the my grass compile: failure
I have tried the variations on the compilation of GDAL: failure

Is python _required_ for the gdal bridge to work. If so, that could be the
reason. I do not have all the headers required for a compile of GDAL with
python.

No; I'm using GDAL 1.1.3 configured "--without-python".

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On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:48:01AM -0400, mberglund wrote:

I'm walking through glass on this one guys...

I have tried for the better part of 24hours to get GDAL to compile _and_
work with grass.

Not only do I need it for work, but I can't see how you can trust my
binaries if r.in.gdal fails routinely.

This is the latest cvs version of GDAL (1.1.5) and grass release candidate
5_0_0.

I get a consistent "ERROR: Unable to initialize GDAL bridge (check
libgdal installation)." from grass AND the bridge_test in GDAL fails
with a similar message. I was able to get a real result only once, (after
at least one hundred failures).

The system is suse 7.1, I have not installed anything exotic so I can't
see how the system might be affecting this issue.

If anyone has any idea on what I can check to deal with this, I would
welcome it.

Thanks,
Matt Berglund

Matt,

P.S. If it is something stupid, please remember I am not the sharpest tool
in the shed.

nothing stupid!

A few questions:
- did GDAL compile properly?
- did you run make install on it finally (yes, why not)
- did you copy the libgdal... to $GISBASE/lib

This is just for verification,

Markus

PS: Frank Warmerdam is also listing to this channel and may probably
    have an idea.

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Ok, your "dumb butt alarms" should be going off (about me)...

A few questions:
- did GDAL compile properly?

yes...

- did you run make install on it finally (yes, why not)

yes...

- did you copy the libgdal... to $GISBASE/lib

HAHAHAH!! Don't I wish.....

It works now.

But, wouldn't it be useful to have configure check and see if gdal is
installed and use it where it sits? This seems more intuitive to me, not
that you guys don't have enough to do.

Lastly,
nviz still does not work. Not in a boat, not with a goat.

I have no doubt it is something I am doing wrong.

Later,
Matt

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On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:11:40AM -0400, mberglund wrote:
[...]

NVIZ still fails with:

The papers are available at
http://www2.gis.uiuc.edu:2280/modviz/
Unable to load map
Unable to load map
Loading Data
child killed: segmentation violation
    while executing
"exec /usr/local/grass5/etc/nviz2.2/NVWISH2.2 -f
/usr/local/grass5/etc/nviz2.2/scripts/nviz2.2_script elevation=4117ne1.1
-name NVIZ >&@stdout"
    ("eval" body line 1)
    invoked from within
"eval exec $env(GISBASE)/etc/nviz2.2/NVWISH2.2 -f
$env(GISBASE)/etc/nviz2.2/scripts/nviz2.2_script $CMD -name NVIZ >&@stdout
"
    (file "/usr/local/grass5/bin/nviz2.2" line 92)

Finished

But it should be noted that there is no elevation data for 4117ne1.1, so
why is it looking for some?

Mhhh, this is also surprising. How did you start nviz?

Perhaps try:
nviz2.2 el=yourelmap
           ^^^^^^^^^ use some correct raster map name

does this work?

Regards

Markus

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Markus Neteler wrote:

Mhhh, this is also surprising. How did you start nviz?

Tcktkgrass and grass commandline.

Perhaps try:
nviz2.2 el=yourelmap
           ^^^^^^^^^ use some correct raster map name

does this work?

Nope.

Later,
Matt

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On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:15:49AM -0400, mberglund wrote:

Ok, your "dumb butt alarms" should be going off (about me)...
> A few questions:
> - did GDAL compile properly?
yes...
> - did you run make install on it finally (yes, why not)
yes...
> - did you copy the libgdal... to $GISBASE/lib
HAHAHAH!! Don't I wish.....

It works now.

Hoorray! I have added such notes to
documents/release_rules.txt

to avoid future confusion.

But, wouldn't it be useful to have configure check and see if gdal is
installed and use it where it sits? This seems more intuitive to me, not
that you guys don't have enough to do.

Yes, probably Frank Warmerdam (excuse me, Frank) has a autoconf snipplet
to check this.

Otherwise: After running "make install" on gdal, a "ldconfig" should have
helped as well to get it working. However, for a binary installation we
want to have it in GISBASE/lib/.

Lastly,
nviz still does not work. Not in a boat, not with a goat.

I have no doubt it is something I am doing wrong.

What about

nviz2.2 -q
?

Cheers

Markus

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For what it is worth, Markus, I have to admit failing the GRASS
community. I have been unable to do the maintenance needed for the
Canadian Mirror. I have been out of the GRASS arena for a year now, and
it doesn't look like I am getting back into it any time soon.

I will remove the now sadly out of date mirror. There is kruft there
from before the mid-GRASS5 shuffle.

My thanks to all who have participated in development of GRASS. Keep up
doing what you need to do to make GRASS work for you.

Angus Carr.

Markus Neteler wrote:

Hi all,

the current Canadian mirror seems to be out of sync for
some month. Is anyone willing to host a Canadian GRASS mirror
site (580MB required)? Otherwise I should "eliminate" Canada
from the mirror map and list...

Regards

Markus Neteler

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Dear Angus,

On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:25:35PM -0400, Angus Carr wrote:

For what it is worth, Markus, I have to admit failing the GRASS
community. I have been unable to do the maintenance needed for the
Canadian Mirror. I have been out of the GRASS arena for a year now, and
it doesn't look like I am getting back into it any time soon.

I will remove the now sadly out of date mirror. There is kruft there
from before the mid-GRASS5 shuffle.

My thanks to all who have participated in development of GRASS. Keep up
doing what you need to do to make GRASS work for you.

Angus Carr.

I am sad to hear that you leave us! We have to be grateful to
*you* as you helped so much in the earlier days of GRASS 5 and
providing web space for the growing GRASS community.

Hopefully you keep in touch with us and maybe come back later.

Thanks for all your contributions,
kind regards

Markus Neteler

Markus Neteler wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> the current Canadian mirror seems to be out of sync for
> some month. Is anyone willing to host a Canadian GRASS mirror
> site (580MB required)? Otherwise I should "eliminate" Canada
> from the mirror map and list...
>
> Regards
>
> Markus Neteler
>
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Angus,

As Markus said, Thank you for your contributions!!! Keep in touch.

Bruce

Markus Neteler wrote:

Dear Angus,

On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:25:35PM -0400, Angus Carr wrote:
> For what it is worth, Markus, I have to admit failing the GRASS
> community. I have been unable to do the maintenance needed for the
> Canadian Mirror. I have been out of the GRASS arena for a year now, and
> it doesn't look like I am getting back into it any time soon.
>
> I will remove the now sadly out of date mirror. There is kruft there
> from before the mid-GRASS5 shuffle.
>
> My thanks to all who have participated in development of GRASS. Keep up
> doing what you need to do to make GRASS work for you.
>
> Angus Carr.

I am sad to hear that you leave us! We have to be grateful to
*you* as you helped so much in the earlier days of GRASS 5 and
providing web space for the growing GRASS community.

Hopefully you keep in touch with us and maybe come back later.

Thanks for all your contributions,
kind regards

Markus Neteler

> Markus Neteler wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the current Canadian mirror seems to be out of sync for
> > some month. Is anyone willing to host a Canadian GRASS mirror
> > site (580MB required)? Otherwise I should "eliminate" Canada
> > from the mirror map and list...
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Markus Neteler
> >
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