[GRASS5] GRASS in Debian

GRASS made the Weekly Debian News:
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/

  Help with Packaging GRASS.

  A [39]question came up asking about the status of packaging
  GRASS. Federico Di Gregorio replied that he has [40]preliminary
  packages ready which are full of packaging errors and generate a
  single 25MB package. He asked for help with this effort; so if
  somebody wants to help, please contact Federico.

  39. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0201/msg01702.html
  40. http://people.debian.org/~fog/

Maybe some developer should give Federico a hand. I don't know if he
know about this list.

One main argument to clarify the license of GRASS in 1999
was that clearly making a Free Software project will booth the
chances that it get packaged by distributions and attracts more developers.
Both seems to be happening, though it takes some time.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:45:37PM +0100, Bernhard Reiter wrote:

GRASS made the Weekly Debian News:
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/

  Help with Packaging GRASS.

  A [39]question came up asking about the status of packaging
  GRASS. Federico Di Gregorio replied that he has [40]preliminary
  packages ready which are full of packaging errors and generate a
  single 25MB package. He asked for help with this effort; so if
  somebody wants to help, please contact Federico.

  39. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0201/msg01702.html
  40. http://people.debian.org/~fog/

Maybe some developer should give Federico a hand. I don't know if he
know about this list.

One main argument to clarify the license of GRASS in 1999
was that clearly making a Free Software project will booth the
chances that it get packaged by distributions and attracts more developers.
Both seems to be happening, though it takes some time.

Looking at
http://people.debian.org/~fog/
shows that he is obviously using beta8... That's a long time ago.
Maybe he wants to try pre3 :slight_smile: ?

Good night,

Markus

Il ven, 2002-01-25 alle 02:13, Markus Neteler ha scritto:

> Maybe some developer should give Federico a hand. I don't know if he
> know about this list.

no. :slight_smile:

> One main argument to clarify the license of GRASS in 1999
> was that clearly making a Free Software project will booth the
> chances that it get packaged by distributions and attracts more developers.
> Both seems to be happening, though it takes some time.

there some big problems in packaging grass. my pre-release of the deb
some months ago did not attracted all the interest i though and there
was just a couple of beta testers. with no input and not using grass
full-time, its very difficult to make a good and releaseable package of
such a big application.

Looking at
http://people.debian.org/~fog/
shows that he is obviously using beta8... That's a long time ago.
Maybe he wants to try pre3 :slight_smile: ?

i'll base my next package on it and let you know.

federico

--
Federico Di Gregorio
Debian GNU/Linux Developer & Italian Press Contact fog@debian.org
INIT.D Developer fog@initd.org
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   fort qu'on en oublie ce qui nous rattache au monde... -- J. de Loctra

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:13:15 +0100, Markus Neteler <neteler@itc.it> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:45:37PM +0100, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> GRASS made the Weekly Debian News:
> http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/
>
> Help with Packaging GRASS.
>
> A [39]question came up asking about the status of packaging
> GRASS. Federico Di Gregorio replied that he has [40]preliminary
> packages ready which are full of packaging errors and generate a
> single 25MB package. He asked for help with this effort; so if
> somebody wants to help, please contact Federico.
>
> 39. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0201/msg01702.html
> 40. http://people.debian.org/~fog/
>
>
> Maybe some developer should give Federico a hand. I don't know if he
> know about this list.
>
> One main argument to clarify the license of GRASS in 1999
> was that clearly making a Free Software project will booth the
> chances that it get packaged by distributions and attracts more developers.
> Both seems to be happening, though it takes some time.

Looking at
http://people.debian.org/~fog/
shows that he is obviously using beta8... That's a long time ago.
Maybe he wants to try pre3 :slight_smile: ?

The major problem for debian in packaging GRASS is it's non-standard
build system. Also, they have a lot of rules about where things
should go, etc. Mostly, I think GRASS could fit the bill by first
changing the target install directory to be /usr/lib/grass5/ and
then a few install modifications for documentation (I'm not saying
we do this on the GRASS end...). Mmm, maybe I'll look at that
Debian packaging manual again...

The oft talked about change in the build system will help packagers
alot as well (core shared libes, shared data files, core binaries,
extra libs/modules, documentation, etc...).

--
Eric G. Miller <egm2@jps.net>

On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:42:49AM +0100, Federico Di Gregorio wrote:

Il ven, 2002-01-25 alle 02:13, Markus Neteler ha scritto:
> > Maybe some developer should give Federico a hand. I don't know if he
> > know about this list.

no. :slight_smile:

Now you do. :slight_smile:

there some big problems in packaging grass. my pre-release of the deb
some months ago did not attracted all the interest i though and there
was just a couple of beta testers. with no input and not using grass
full-time, its very difficult to make a good and releaseable package of
such a big application.

The FreeGIS project has some experience in packaging GRASS, though in rpms.
We do not package every version for the CD, but the ones we package
can be used on Debian, too. We have mostly Debian GNU/Linux systems here.

However I still think that it is a good idea to make special topic
distributions, like the FreeGIS-CD instead of trying to include
"everything" in any Distribution. GIS is such a topic.
But Debian packages would be fine, too. :slight_smile:

> Looking at
> http://people.debian.org/~fog/
> shows that he is obviously using beta8... That's a long time ago.
> Maybe he wants to try pre3 :slight_smile: ?

i'll base my next package on it and let you know.

The developer-lists probably counts as the proper upstream email
address.

  Bernhard

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