[GRASS5] Licence problem? SCS

The programs like v.rmedge, v.extract and some others authored by
R. L. Glenn from SCS where in src.contrib.

I haven't found a licence for them, so strictly speaking since this
was not released as a core component of the public domain GRASS there
may be some problems.

Is there some information around? The fact that SCS is a governemental
organization (right?) is not enough.
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Thierry Laronde (Alceste) <tlaronde@polynum.org>
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Thierry,

The SCS (Soil Conservation Service), which is now called the Natural Resources Conservation Service, is part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture. By law, all U.S. Government software is in the public domain. Consequently, it is safe to use.

Tom

Thierry Laronde wrote:

The programs like v.rmedge, v.extract and some others authored by
R. L. Glenn from SCS where in src.contrib.

I haven't found a licence for them, so strictly speaking since this was not released as a core component of the public domain GRASS there may be some problems.

Is there some information around? The fact that SCS is a governemental
organization (right?) is not enough.

--
Thomas E Adams
National Weather Service
Ohio River Forecast Center
1901 South State Route 134
Wilmington, OH 45177

EMAIL: thomas.adams@noaa.gov

VOICE: 937-383-0528
FAX: 937-383-0033

Thanks for the answer!

BTW, there is no such law here (in France) where public organizations
are even encouraged, nowadays, to patent their software (written with
public funds)... ironically even preventing local enterprises to be
silently "sponsored" via this release of code source...

Regards,

On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:49:48AM -0500, Thomas Adams wrote:

Thierry,

The SCS (Soil Conservation Service), which is now called the Natural
Resources Conservation Service, is part of the U.S. Department of
Agriculture. By law, all U.S. Government software is in the public
domain. Consequently, it is safe to use.

Tom

Thierry Laronde wrote:

>The programs like v.rmedge, v.extract and some others authored by
>R. L. Glenn from SCS where in src.contrib.
>
>I haven't found a licence for them, so strictly speaking since this
>was not released as a core component of the public domain GRASS there
>may be some problems.
>
>Is there some information around? The fact that SCS is a governemental
>organization (right?) is not enough.
>
>

--
Thomas E Adams
National Weather Service
Ohio River Forecast Center
1901 South State Route 134
Wilmington, OH 45177

EMAIL: thomas.adams@noaa.gov

VOICE: 937-383-0528
FAX: 937-383-0033

--
Thierry Laronde (Alceste) <tlaronde@polynum.org>
Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Thierry,

Very interesting. The differece between the U.S. and European countries goes further, namely, the availability of geophysical/geographic data. Again, in the U.S. the raw data is, for the most part, in the public domain and is freely available. Some exceptions exist due to the the problems with data access, but as technology advances and more data can be stored online with easy internet access, U.S. data is freely available. My understanding is that this is not the case in most of the rest of the world.

Tom

Thierry Laronde wrote:

Thanks for the answer!

BTW, there is no such law here (in France) where public organizations
are even encouraged, nowadays, to patent their software (written with
public funds)... ironically even preventing local enterprises to be silently "sponsored" via this release of code source...

Regards,

On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:49:48AM -0500, Thomas Adams wrote:

Thierry,

The SCS (Soil Conservation Service), which is now called the Natural Resources Conservation Service, is part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture. By law, all U.S. Government software is in the public domain. Consequently, it is safe to use.

Tom

Thierry Laronde wrote:

The programs like v.rmedge, v.extract and some others authored by
R. L. Glenn from SCS where in src.contrib.

I haven't found a licence for them, so strictly speaking since this was not released as a core component of the public domain GRASS there may be some problems.

Is there some information around? The fact that SCS is a governemental
organization (right?) is not enough.

--
Thomas E Adams
National Weather Service
Ohio River Forecast Center
1901 South State Route 134
Wilmington, OH 45177

EMAIL: thomas.adams@noaa.gov

VOICE: 937-383-0528
FAX: 937-383-0033

--
Thomas E Adams
National Weather Service
Ohio River Forecast Center
1901 South State Route 134
Wilmington, OH 45177

EMAIL: thomas.adams@noaa.gov

VOICE: 937-383-0528
FAX: 937-383-0033

On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:51:47PM -0500, Thomas Adams wrote:

Thierry,

Very interesting. The differece between the U.S. and European countries
goes further, namely, the availability of geophysical/geographic data.
Again, in the U.S. the raw data is, for the most part, in the public
domain and is freely available. Some exceptions exist due to the the
problems with data access, but as technology advances and more data can
be stored online with easy internet access, U.S. data is freely
available. My understanding is that this is not the case in most of the
rest of the world.

This is not the case indeed at least in France: geophysical/geographic
data is copyrighted and not generally available.

This, plus the fact that databases (for example the data about land
plots, or the data relative to energy, water and so on, which is "owned"
by public enterprises or by some governemental agencies) are not
available on a great scale (you can ask for small extracts, but you can
not generally obtain the whole or a large subset) has produced the "GIS"
scene that is our present (in France): shattering data and GIS
development conducted inside the agencies/enterprises without
interoperability in mind which finally lead to an underuse of GIS
analysis and no scalable solution proposed to others.

Everybody knows that when one wants to keep everything he will finally
loose everything. But a lot of people seem to forget (and I think there
is at least a psychological explanation: when one wants to keep
everything, this means that he is unsure and will not make a step
outside of his world: defensive, not offensive. He will be defeated).

For me, the real progress of the humanity has been to stop to be a
hunter and to become a farmer: not stealing resources but creating ones.
Wealth is created not owned. So the importance is not owning raw data,
but making something with them. But... /*sigh*/
--
Thierry Laronde (Alceste) <tlaronde@polynum.org>
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