On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:34:59PM +0600, artemis wrote:
Markus Neteler wrote:
> Hi Artemis,
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:42:05PM +0600, artemis wrote:
> > Hi, Markus
> > If you remember, I'm the guy stucked with i18n of GRASS.
> > There are several difficulties that I experience now:
> >
> > First, the GUI. Now, I'm updating the modules in tcltkgrass to the current
> > state of the programs already in russian, and think it would be nice if it
> > had something like gettext. Imagine, how easy the localization of the GUI
> > could be. I can help with this, as soon as I finish some of the other
> > work.
> I agree, gettext would be the best. It's a major issue and we have scheduled
> it for GRASS 5.1:
> Bereich Geographie – Naturwissenschaftliche Fakultät – Leibniz Universität Hannover
>
> That time help will be appreciated. Even with implementation of gettext as I
> am unexperienced here.
> But maybe we could use tcltkgrass to get familiar with gettext? If you
> have ideas how to implement this, please let me know.
>I've recently seen tcl-gettext library, that I'm going to explore,
as I'm not familiar with gettext well as well.
Great! Probably you get some ideas. Please forward the tcl-gettext URL to
me.
> > Second, the maps. I work in governmental organization, and we have rules
> > for map making. E.g. when I need to make a colortable in ps.map, I need to
> > edit the category labels, but modcats/G_edit_cats etc. doesn't allow
> > entering 8bit characters. Perhaps, this is important in the software, as I
> > found very many (about 30!) checks like 'getchar() & 0177' and so on.
> > (btw, the problem is to print russian labels on the map).
> >
> > So I edit the cats file by hand and everything seems to work. I even got
> > the nice russian colortables on the final map. The query programs work
> > too (haven't tried nviz yet)
> >
> > Why are there such restrictions? When we tried to modify those at our site
> > (commented out all the '& 0177', '< 0177' and so on in Vask) it didn't
> > work.
> >
> > The total patch (all such entries in the whole tree) didn't work too.
> > I wonder where the code that handles the 8bit char lives then. Or is it
> > a kind of importance to GRASS programs and we shouldn't modify that at
> > all?
> > In this case, I've already started writing a category editor, because we
> > need to label everything in russian.
>
> The current font support is a mess. From my side there are no restrictions
> to improve the situation. I think the bad coding is due to the history of
> GRASS: The U.S. army was simply not interested in supporting other
> languages. As GRASS is an internation project now, we have to improve the
> situation.The problem is not in the fonts (but it would be if we would use p.map).
GRASS 'cyrilc' font has only 26 letters and is unusable in the case, but
type-1 fonts work well with ps.map.
Yes. Consider to contact Alex Shevlakov
sixote alin <sixote@yahoo.com>
he has written the GRASS 'cyrilc' font. Maybe he has some hints for you.
But the problem is in the limitations on enetering extended chars in the
CERL code. I suppose, it should be completely rewritten with new curses
routines, if possible. We found about 30 checks like '*ANSIPTR<0177' and
so.
As I've already told, correcting it didn't work. The problem was in the
type 'signed char' in the gis and vask libraries and a guy at our bureau
solved it already. He promised to post a patch.
Great, it would be nice to improve that. Most of the curses stuff is very
old in GRASS and needs to be updated.
> Please post this on the GRASS 5 developers list. There are other developers
> who might have an answer or recommendations for you. I definitly want to
> support *any* font!
> The list is here:
> Bereich Geographie – Naturwissenschaftliche Fakultät – Leibniz Universität Hannover
> (maybe you have already subscribed)
>
> Let's discuss the topic there.I have no ability to write to the list due to some problems with mail
here.
As they are solved, I'll do.
[...]
Artemis
Fine. Until then, please write to me, I'll forward to GRASS 5 list.
Regards
Markus
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