In my case, it doesn't work because I'm using lynx as a manual browser.
IMHO, I think it's better to leave it to users to fork his/her browser.
For example, the following script will free the command line:
my_browser $@ &
Actually, firefox returns to the shell after launching.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:21:40PM +1300, Hamish wrote:
> In my case, it doesn't work because I'm using lynx as a manual
> browser.
.. right. ok then, I guess we need to go back to the way it was.
> IMHO, I think it's better to leave it to users to fork
> his/her browser. For example, the following script will free the
> command line:
>
> my_browser $@ &
should we expect new users to be educated in the ways of unix and
backgrounding jobs?
No, we shouldn't. But we cannot expect users to use only graphical browsers.
> Actually, firefox returns to the shell after launching.
I'm using dillo for the task, which doesn't.
Right, that depends on a browser. What about having an option or env.
var? It's not easy though.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:07:09AM +0100, Stefan Paulick wrote:
Huidae Cho schrieb:
>On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:21:40PM +1300, Hamish wrote:
>
>>should we expect new users to be educated in the ways of unix and
>>backgrounding jobs?
>
>No, we shouldn't. But we cannot expect users to use only graphical
>browsers.
Using GRASS in a non-graphical environment seems not to be very common. So
I see no reason why not demanding a graphical browser as mandatory.
It's not about graphical environment like X-Window, but about browser
preference.
Huidae Cho
Backgrounding jobs should be known - > tcltkgrass &. (even I do ;-)) )
Maybe some note in the wiki should be added.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:07:09AM +0100, Stefan Paulick wrote:
Huidae Cho schrieb:
>On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:21:40PM +1300, Hamish wrote:
>
>>should we expect new users to be educated in the ways of unix and
>>backgrounding jobs?
>
>No, we shouldn't. But we cannot expect users to use only graphical
>browsers.
Using GRASS in a non-graphical environment seems not to be very common. So
I see no reason why not demanding a graphical browser as mandatory.
It must be at least selectable. There are known users (let's say,
in a major city where migration to GNU/Linux is done) who depend on
a text only version option as a requirement. If GRASS cannot be run
in text mode, they may not use it. This is a sort of minimum
requirement for them.
Backgrounding jobs should be known - > tcltkgrass &. (even I do ;-)) )
Maybe some note in the wiki should be added.
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 12:48 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:07:09AM +0100, Stefan Paulick wrote:
> Huidae Cho schrieb:
>
> >On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:21:40PM +1300, Hamish wrote:
> >
> >>should we expect new users to be educated in the ways of unix and
> >>backgrounding jobs?
> >
> >No, we shouldn't. But we cannot expect users to use only graphical
> >browsers.
> Using GRASS in a non-graphical environment seems not to be very common. So
> I see no reason why not demanding a graphical browser as mandatory.
It must be at least selectable. There are known users (let's say,
in a major city where migration to GNU/Linux is done) who depend on
a text only version option as a requirement. If GRASS cannot be run
in text mode, they may not use it. This is a sort of minimum
requirement for them.
Eric Raymond has been working on a package to replace man pages with
XML/HTML and to change the man utility so that it can render classic
text-only "man" pages that come from XML/HTML. The benefit of this
approach is that both text-only, browser-based, and more advanced text
rendering environments can all provide 100% functionality (relative to
themselves) from 100% consistent documentation. Might be worthwhile
seeing if GRASS should plan an intercept for this approach.
I've copied Eric, in case he'd like to add anything.