[GRASSLIST:1145] Grass / Windows 2000 Setup and VM Ware Question

Hi,
    I want Grass for a notebook computer running Windows 2000 and have seen
some information from a company named VM Ware (http://www.vmware.com). This
company has a product called 'VMware 2.0 for Windows NT/2000' which utilizes
a virtual machine technology through which Linux can be run on the NT/2000
desktop. Rebooting is not required to go between Windows and Linux.

    Has anyone used this software and successfully run Grass and its monitor
on a Windows PC ?

    This could be an alternative to a dual-boot machine. I only know of PCs
dual-booting Linux and Windows 98, and I would like to use NT or 2000
instead.
    Any suggestions are very welcome.

Thank you.
Rick Thompson

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 02:53:51PM -0600, Rick Thompson wrote:

Hi,
    I want Grass for a notebook computer running Windows 2000 and have seen
some information from a company named VM Ware (http://www.vmware.com). This
company has a product called 'VMware 2.0 for Windows NT/2000' which utilizes
a virtual machine technology through which Linux can be run on the NT/2000
desktop. Rebooting is not required to go between Windows and Linux.

    Has anyone used this software and successfully run Grass and its monitor
on a Windows PC ?

    This could be an alternative to a dual-boot machine. I only know of PCs
dual-booting Linux and Windows 98, and I would like to use NT or 2000
instead.
    Any suggestions are very welcome.

I have no experience with VM Ware. But, in theory, if you can get it to
run Linux on top of Windows 2000 *and* you can get X to work under those
conditions, then I see no reason why GRASS wouldn't work (maybe run
slower though). GRASS doesn't use too much trickery in it's code. We'd
be interested in your results (if you decide to try). We are working on
the GRASS/CygWin port and hope to get the display part resolved before
too long. Apparently, everything else works okay under windows (I have
no direct experience though).

You must understand that you'll want alot of RAM and a fast CPU for VM
Ware. I understand it dogs with less than 96 MB of RAM.

--
Eric G. Miller <egm2@jps.net>

Dear Eric

I run VMWare on a Dell Pentium II portable, with RedHat6.1 as the 'guest'
operating system. GRASS 4.2.1 ran first time as a Linux binary install,
and monitors display without any problems.

Roy

At 18:15 17/11/00 -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote:

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 02:53:51PM -0600, Rick Thompson wrote:

Hi,
    I want Grass for a notebook computer running Windows 2000 and have seen
some information from a company named VM Ware (http://www.vmware.com). This
company has a product called 'VMware 2.0 for Windows NT/2000' which

utilizes

a virtual machine technology through which Linux can be run on the NT/2000
desktop. Rebooting is not required to go between Windows and Linux.

    Has anyone used this software and successfully run Grass and its

monitor

on a Windows PC ?

    This could be an alternative to a dual-boot machine. I only know of PCs
dual-booting Linux and Windows 98, and I would like to use NT or 2000
instead.
    Any suggestions are very welcome.

I have no experience with VM Ware. But, in theory, if you can get it to
run Linux on top of Windows 2000 *and* you can get X to work under those
conditions, then I see no reason why GRASS wouldn't work (maybe run
slower though). GRASS doesn't use too much trickery in it's code. We'd
be interested in your results (if you decide to try). We are working on
the GRASS/CygWin port and hope to get the display part resolved before
too long. Apparently, everything else works okay under windows (I have
no direct experience though).

You must understand that you'll want alot of RAM and a fast CPU for VM
Ware. I understand it dogs with less than 96 MB of RAM.

--
Eric G. Miller <egm2@jps.net>

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Hi Rick, Hi Eric,

i can underline what Eric wrote. Running GRASS under Linux running in a
VM Ware Virtual Machine on Windows should be possible. But it will
severly degrade performance and you will need at least 128 MB Memory to
get anything useful done.

As the cygwin port is underway now (hopefully only a matter of days) i
wouldn't recommend this setup.

You should remember that you need a complete linux/grass setup, so
configuring an dual-boot setup is IMHO the performance-wise better
decision. And you won't be able to access your data from Windows with
the VM Ware setup unless you setup a samba export on the linux VM.

cu,

Andreas

Rick Thompson wrote:

Hi,
    I want Grass for a notebook computer running Windows 2000 and have seen
some information from a company named VM Ware (http://www.vmware.com). This
company has a product called 'VMware 2.0 for Windows NT/2000' which utilizes
a virtual machine technology through which Linux can be run on the NT/2000
desktop. Rebooting is not required to go between Windows and Linux.

    Has anyone used this software and successfully run Grass and its monitor
on a Windows PC ?

    This could be an alternative to a dual-boot machine. I only know of PCs
dual-booting Linux and Windows 98, and I would like to use NT or 2000
instead.
    Any suggestions are very welcome.

Thank you.
Rick Thompson

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Andreas.Lange@Rhein-Main.de - A.C.Lange@GMX.net