[GRASSLIST:161] RE: How to report length totals for all lines mat ching specific ID

Hamish,

Thanks for bringing up that point. Fortunately, the coastline I'm reporting
lengths on is a 'final' product released by another gov't department, and so
is likely to be the authoritative source for quite some time (presumably).
Interesting links you sent.

I ended up doing pretty much what you described, using Michael's nice
v.extract interface in gis.m. Exporting vector SQL queries is easier than
doing the same in Arc now, as I was happy to demonstrate to an Arc-using
colleague.

~ Eric.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hamish
To: Patton, Eric
Cc: GRASSLIST@baylor.edu
Sent: 3/15/2006 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [GRASSLIST:138] How to report length totals for all lines
matching specific ID

I have a vector of a coastline; the coast is segmented into different
coastal types, according to unique IDs:

CAT Class_ID CLASS SEG_LENGTH
1 5 Rock Cliff 56.789000
2 7 Barrier Beach 13.450000
....

I successfully popluated the SEG_LENGTH column with the length of each
segment using v.to.db:

v.to.db Coastal_Classes option=length type=line units=m

Now I want to report total lengths of each CLASS (i.e., total length
of all "Rock Cliff" segments, etc.)

Any ideas?

maybe not the most efficient way, but:

v.extract out=rock_cliff where="CLASS = 'Rock Cliff'"
v.out.ascii.db rock_cliff column=SEG_LENGTH #from the wiki add-ons page

then add up in spreadsheet, matlab/octave, awk loop, etc.
Don't know of a UNIX command to do sums, but I'm sure there is one?
bc?

Note coastline length is a fractal problem and answers are only useful
when compared against the same dataset, e.g. as a percentage of the
whole. Even then trusting it is a bit dubious (same digitizer at the
same level of fatigue, etc).

see-
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CoastlineParadox.html
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/cogsci/chaos/workshop/Fractals.
html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Long_Is_the_Coast_of_Britain%3F_Statist
ical_Self-Similarity_and_Fractional_Dimension

Hamish

> I have a vector of a coastline; the coast is segmented into
> different coastal types, according to unique IDs:

..

> I successfully popluated the SEG_LENGTH column with the length of
> each segment using v.to.db:

..

Note coastline length is a fractal problem and answers are only useful
when compared against the same dataset, e.g. as a percentage of the
whole. Even then trusting it is a bit dubious (same digitizer at the
same level of fatigue, etc).

see-
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CoastlineParadox.html
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/cogsci/chaos/workshop/Fractals.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Long_Is_the_Coast_of_Britain%3F_Statistical_Self-Similarity_and_Fractional_Dimension

..

Thanks for bringing up that point. Fortunately, the coastline I'm
reporting lengths on is a 'final' product released by another gov't
department, and so is likely to be the authoritative source for quite
some time (presumably). Interesting links you sent.

I should also mention that besides the choices of the digitizer hand &
processing, fractal depth will also be a function of the local geology
and wave exposure.

Clearly stating which dataset the length data was derived from helps,
but IMO "coastline length" a measure that policy makers should be
steered away from at every opportunity. It's sexy but bogus.

Hamish