Thomas,
I agree 100% with you about this. That's why I took on the task of rewriting the GUI this year. It wasn't particularly complex technically, mainly grunt work that someone just needed to sit down and do. I started with GRASS 5.3. Amazingly, I found when I was done that I had added 200 commands to the GUI that had been in GRASS but only available from the command line--nearly doubling the items in the menus. Then I did the same for GRASS 5.7, which didn't have an overarching GUI at all at the time. This has made a big difference for me--and my students. The near-term plan is to move GRASS 5.7 to a Qt GUI environment (I believe that Radim Blazik is working on it currently). That environment will look like QGIS more or less <http://qgis.org/>\. This would be great and I have offered to help if I can. The more people to work on it, the better it will be. The main problem is that the number of real developers is still quite small--especially for such a powerful and complex program. Fortunately, they are very dedicated and appear not to sleep much.
The installation issue still remains. It is helped by people who regularly compile binaries for various platforms and provide them to the user community. The best (IMHO) is by Lorenzo Moretti for the Mac OSX <http://wwwamb.bologna.enea.it/forgrass/>\. It does a double click install and provides all the needed libraries. It is very nearly like a commercial application in terms of ease. I think something similar needs to be done for Windows users and major Linux platforms. Again, it just needs people to take this on.
Your interest and that of others, if followed up by contributions to the development and testing program will help to realize your wish expressed below. Having used several GIS programs over the years, I am convinced that this is close to (if not THE) most complete, versatile, powerful, and **STABLE** GIS system available--commercial or otherwise.
Michael Barton
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On May 27, 2004, at 10:01 PM, Multiple recipients of list wrote:
The functionality is all there -- hidden somewhere in an
obscurely named shell script, a version 0.beta of
some source code archive or an external software package
like R that is immensely powerful but adds another
completely different command-driven environment which
a lot of users are intimidated by.
-- Not a problem for myself and most of the people reading
this list. But even I feel I miss a portion of GRASS capabilities,
simply because I cannot locate it -- that's after having
worked with GRASS since 1996.The average GIS user, however, has a certain functionality
in mind and will turn away in frustration if he feels
that 'It has to be somewhere in there but I can't find it!'
Kriging is definitely one of those things.I summary, I want GRASS to become the biggest, most functional
and most widely used GIS system in any scientific field.
But this will only happen, if we ease access to its functionality.
Everything that works in this direction will benefit.
A good Kriging module that spans a bridge to R capabilities
without the user having to learn R would be a fine start.