On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 08:26:11PM +0000, Miha STAUT wrote:
Hi all,
Has anybody ever tried to interpolate sound (==> noise) in a general GIS? I
only mean 2D interpolation. I know 2D is a big compromise but it has to be
done for my school assignment and at this level I do not intend to use a 3D
technique.
How would you treat the spread of a signal from a source r.cost is not a
very good solution because of the refraction (picture the emission and
imission points on the opposite sides of a building).
What about the reflection from objects?
Ideas and comments are welcome.
Hi,
you may read this paper:
Geomatics WorkBooks No 2 - 2001:
Biagi L., Brovelli M.A., Scuratti M.
Enviromental noise modeling within an open source GIS
http://geomatica.ing.unico.it/cgi-bin/workbooks.cgi?pag=abs2&ind=2
Cheers
Markus Neteler
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Subject: [GRASSLIST:4863] Moran's I
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Dear All,
I am experienced with GIS but new to GRASS and LINUX. I have installed
GRASS 5.0.0 on my machine using the precompiled binaries for Linux (I am
using RedHat 8.0) I cannot use the command r.moran. Grass cannot find it. I
have looked myself and there is nothing on the machine with this name o any
similar one. The documentation and command list includes this command for
grass 5.0.0.
What is wrong here? Could that be that the binary is missing this and
possibly other files?
Thank you!
____________________________________________________
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SSA GIS Consultant
United Nations, HQ, Cartographic Section, Room L-172
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Subject: [GRASSLIST:4864] Re: Moran's I
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Alexandru Codilean wrote:
Dear All,
I am experienced with GIS but new to GRASS and LINUX. I have installed
GRASS 5.0.0 on my machine using the precompiled binaries for Linux (I am
using RedHat 8.0) I cannot use the command r.moran. Grass cannot find
it. I have looked myself and there is nothing on the machine with this
name o any similar one. The documentation and command list includes this
command for grass 5.0.0.
In fact the manual page is still distributed with the 5.0.0 source, but no
r.moran code is present. The code was written by Jo Wood, and the manual
page is dated 1994. My guess would be that the code has not been
maintained for some time, is maybe in the 4.2.1 source tarball, may be in
the 4.3 tarball, but hasn't migrated to 5.0.0. This is because the change
to 5.0.0 involved the replacement of numeric 0 by a NULL not available
value (since numeric 0 can be a useful numerical value), and migration to
floating point rasters for data of the kind returned by a local Moran's
I_i. If you need Moran's I, one posibility is the interface to R described
on the geostatistics section of the website. In R, Moran's I and local
Moran's I_i are in contributed package spdep. If you need specific help,
contact me off the list, and we can work something out (doing tests on
local Moran's I_i is not so easy - there is a saddlepoint approximation
function in spdep).
Roger
What is wrong here? Could that be that the binary is missing this and
possibly other files?
Thank you!
____________________________________________________
Tiberiu Alexandru CODILEAN
SSA GIS Consultant
United Nations, HQ, Cartographic Section, Room L-172
New York, NY 10017, U.S.A.
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Hi,
I may not read all GRASS document, but I cannot find
if GRASS support multiple languages, such as
Chinese/Japanese.
Can anyone help me on that.
Thanks a lot,
Fox
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Can I simply tar up the region's dir in the database and copy it to another machine?
Or is there more to it than that, and if so, what?
TIA
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Hi,
What I usually do is following:
1. create a new mapset in new location.
2. copy the subdirectories from the original mapset, such as cats,
dig and so on.
3. run some support command, such as r.support, v.support and so on.
Hope this may be help.
Regards,
Xueming
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 cbsled@ncia.net wrote:
Can I simply tar up the region's dir in the database and copy it to another machine?
Or is there more to it than that, and if so, what?
TIA
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cbsled@ncia.net wrote:
Can I simply tar up the region's dir in the database and copy it to
another machine?
Or is there more to it than that, and if so, what?
Are you referring to a "location" directory? If so, then you can
safely transfer the directory to another machine of the same
architecture.
For machines of differing architectures, the situation isn't so clear
cut. Any ASCII files (WIND, cell_hd, colr, sites etc) are portable, as
are the cell files. I don't know about vector files. Some modules may
create additional files using their own private format, and some of
these aren't portable (e.g. the raw FFT output from i.fft).
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Xiangzhou Wang wrote:
I may not read all GRASS document, but I cannot find
if GRASS support multiple languages, such as
Chinese/Japanese.
Can anyone help me on that.
In general, no.
Primitive internationalisation support has been added in 5.0.0;
however, currently only the PostgreSQL modules have been
internationalised, and the only localised message catalogues are for
Russian.
The latest CVS version also includes internationalisation of the core
libgis library, the session startup, and tcltkgrass. Again, the only
existing message catalogues are for Russian.
However, even if you were to construct Chinese/Japanese message
catalogues for those parts which have been internationalised, the
curses-based interfaces won't handle double-width characters
correctly.
OTOH, d.text.freetype does support displaying CJK text.
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After starting, nviz quits with error:
...
Loading Data
Update elev null mask
Loading Data
translating colors
Adding panels from /usr/local/Programm/grass5/etc/nviz2.2/scripts
Nv_(panels)
toplevel made
!!!!!
child killed: segmentation violation
while executing
"exec /usr/local/Programm/grass5/etc/nviz2.2/NVWISH2.2 -f
/usr/local/Programm/grass5/etc/nviz2.2/scripts/nviz2.2_script -name NVIZ
&@stdout"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval exec $env(GISBASE)/etc/nviz2.2/NVWISH2.2 -f
$env(GISBASE)/etc/nviz2.2/scripts/nviz2.2_script -name NVIZ >&@stdout"
invoked from within
"if {$argv == ""} {
#no arguments
eval exec $env(GISBASE)/etc/nviz2.2/NVWISH2.2 -f
$env(GISBASE)/etc/nviz2.2/scripts/nviz2.2_script -name NVIZ >&@stdo..."
(file "/usr/local/Programm/grass5/bin/nviz" line 16)
GRASS:~ >
what can I do?
thanks in advance
thomas
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On 11/01/02, at 12:02 AM, Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net> said:
Are you referring to a "location" directory?
Yes. The ones that are created in the database dir when you make a new location in GRASS.
For machines of differing architectures, the situation isn't so clear cut.
One is a Redhat desktop PC, the other is an Apple Powerbook running
Yellow Dog Linux. We shall see...
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I tried to install grass 5 snapshot 08/2002 and got the following message from ./configure:
error: failed to find postgresql includes.
I then installed postgresql and tried again. Didn't help.
Any idea what I can do to fix this?
Thanks,
-Daniel
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Hi,
Thanks to all for the answers to my previous question (nviz libpq.so =
error):
Now nviz run correctly.
I need to create a DTM starting from a dxf-3D file with contour lines.
I try to import with command v.in.dxf and v.support to rebuild topology =
and v.to rast but the=20
the problem is that when i convert the vector contour map (.DFX) to =
raster i get a raster=20
file containing patches or points of different colors rather then the =
actual contour lines
To run v.surf.rst program caused a sudden crash system. Is this method =
wrong?
Can anyone please tell me which are the correct steps to create the DTM =
raster map?
Thanks,=20
Andrea Mamusa
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now nviz run correctly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I need to create a DTM starting from a =
dxf-3D file=20
with contour lines.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I try to import with command v.in.dxf =
and v.support=20
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(.DFX) to=20
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Dan Gelinas wrote:
I tried to install grass 5 snapshot 08/2002 and got the following
message from ./configure:
error: failed to find postgresql includes.
I then installed postgresql and tried again. Didn't help.
Any idea what I can do to fix this?
./configure --with-postgres-includes=...
Unless the headers are in one of the compiler's default directories
(e.g. /usr/include), you have to tell configure where to find them.
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Hi everybody,
I have grass5.0 on my machine and during the compilation I did not get any errors. Despite of this the v.in.dgn (v.out.dgn also) module was not compiled. Now I needed to use it and I run gmake5 -i to build it but it exit with error. The error message says that the file dgnlibp.h does not exist. It search for it in ../include.
If someone knows how to fix this or can tell me from where I can get the header file please write me.
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Hi all,
I have two sets of image/raster data of the same region acquired at
different times. I am able to perform unsupervised radiometric
classifications on each of them. Just for interest I would like to classify
each of the scenes using the signatures defined for the other image (group).
For instance, to classify scene2 with the signatures from scene1, I cd'ed to
$LOCATION/group/group2/subgroup/subgroup2/sig
and made a
ln -s $LOCATION/group/group1/subgroup/subgroup1/sig/sigfile1 .
Unfotunatly,
i.maxlik group=scene2 subgroup=subscene2 sigfile=sigfile1
class=scene2.sig1
results in
Can't read signature file sigfile1
I fear, that it isn't related to the existance of the file but all the
contents (the number of pixels per class, the variance matrices etc.).
What did I make wrong and how can I get my results?
In other words: How can I generate a (valid) signature file by hand?
All this applies to GRASS 4.2.1.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Stephan
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On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 09:48:10PM +0200, gis Lab wrote:
Hi everybody,
I have grass5.0 on my machine and during the compilation I did not get any errors. Despite of this the v.in.dgn (v.out.dgn also) module was not compiled. Now I needed to use it and I run gmake5 -i to build it but it exit with error. The error message says that the file dgnlibp.h does not exist. It search for it in ../include.
If someone knows how to fix this or can tell me from where I can get the header file please write me.
The v.in.dgn was recently changed in CVS. Here is the latest code:
http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass/src/mapdev/v.in.dgn/v.in.dgn.tar.gz?tarball=1
The README describes briefly that the dgn header files must be used from
GDAL/OGR.
Cheers
Markus
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Hi all,
as I've seen, v.in.dgn exists!
it's marvellous but I have one question:
it's applicable to dgn data with contours - created as lines/polylines instead
of polygons?
Thanl you
tom
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Subject: [GRASSLIST:4879] WinGrass: NVIZ still fails
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I am still not able to run NVIZ neither on SUSE Linux nor with the
Wingrass-Version.
The error message on WinGrass is
cygtcl.dll not found ...
tcltkgrass seems to run without problems
thanks in advance
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On Monday 04 November 2002 12:06 pm, you wrote:
Hi all,
as I've seen, v.in.dgn exists!
it's marvellous but I have one question:
it's applicable to dgn data with contours - created as lines/polylines
instead of polygons?
v.in.dgn currently supports: LINE, LINE_STRING, SHAPE, TEXT
and doesn't support: ARC, CURVE, TEXT_NODE, CELL_HEADER,
COMPLEX_CHAIN_HEADER, COMPLEX_SHAPE_HEADER, ELLIPSE, BSPLINE
Radim
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From: "Allard, Yannick (EXP)" <yannick.allard@lmco.com>
Subject: [GRASSLIST:4882] mapset creation in java
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Hi everyone
does anyone knows how to create a mapset with the Java API...
thanks in advance
yannick
Yannick Allard
Ph.D student, Universite de Sherbrooke
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Lockheed Martin Canada
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I need to code up some models that will output grass raster files and I need
a very good tutorial that can get me generating grass raster files in a
hurry. What's the best tutorial out there for cygwin users?
Jeff.
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./configure --with-postgres-includes=...
Unless the headers are in one of the compiler's default directories
(e.g. /usr/include), you have to tell configure where to find them.
Thanks.
So I assume the configure script doesn't know where to look for these include files? Unfortunately, neither do I 
Any idea where to look for these files AND, more importantly, what they are named?
I will check in the /usr/include.
Thanks again!
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From: Glynn Clements [mailto:glynn.clements@virgin.net]
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Subject: Re: [GRASSLIST:4872] Grass Installation
Dan Gelinas wrote:
I tried to install grass 5 snapshot 08/2002 and got the following
message from ./configure:
error: failed to find postgresql includes.
I then installed postgresql and tried again. Didn't help.
Any idea what I can do to fix this?
./configure --with-postgres-includes=...
Unless the headers are in one of the compiler's default directories
(e.g. /usr/include), you have to tell configure where to find them.
--
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On my system, the following did the trick:
--with-postgres-includes='/usr/local/pgsql/include
/usr/local/pgsql/include/server'
I compiled PostgreSQL myself and used fairly standard locations. If you
installed PostgreSQL from your Linux distribution, the needed include files
may be elsewhere, but they are easy to find. Just examine the ./configure
output and note what file(s) it is not finding. Then do a 'locate' for that
file and include whatever directory(s) the file is in.
Rich
At 09:29 AM 11/4/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> ./configure --with-postgres-includes=...
>Unless the headers are in one of the compiler's default directories
>(e.g. /usr/include), you have to tell configure where to find them.
Thanks.
So I assume the configure script doesn't know where to look for these
include files? Unfortunately, neither do I 
Any idea where to look for these files AND, more importantly, what they
are named?
I will check in the /usr/include.
Thanks again!
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From: Glynn Clements [mailto:glynn.clements@virgin.net]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 7:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [GRASSLIST:4872] Grass Installation
Dan Gelinas wrote:
> I tried to install grass 5 snapshot 08/2002 and got the following
> message from ./configure:
>
> error: failed to find postgresql includes.
>
> I then installed postgresql and tried again. Didn't help.
>
> Any idea what I can do to fix this?
./configure --with-postgres-includes=...
Unless the headers are in one of the compiler's default directories
(e.g. /usr/include), you have to tell configure where to find them.
--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>
Richard W. Greenwood, PLS
Greenwood Mapping, Inc.
Rich@GreenwoodMap.com
(307) 733-0203
http://www.GreenwoodMap.com
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Dan Gelinas wrote:
> ./configure --with-postgres-includes=...
>Unless the headers are in one of the compiler's default directories
>(e.g. /usr/include), you have to tell configure where to find them.
Thanks.
So I assume the configure script doesn't know where to look for these
include files? Unfortunately, neither do I 
Any idea where to look for these files AND, more importantly, what
they are named?
The files for which "configure" checks are:
a) libpq-fe.h, and
b) either postgres.h or postgres_fe.h
If you are using a package from your OS vendor, then the files will
probably be in a subdirectory of /usr/include. E.g. RedHat 6.2 puts
them in /usr/include/pgsql.
You will need to have installed the appropriate "development" package,
e.g. "postgresql-devel" for RedHat 6.2.
If libpq-fe.h and postgres.h/postgres_fe.h are in different
directories, you need to specify both directories, separated by a
space; you will need to enclude the argument in quotes, e.g.
./configure --with-postgres-includes='/usr/include/pgsql /usr/include/pgsql/internal'
--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>
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Hi,
I'm a rather new GRASS user and I use it mainly for rectifying aerial images.
I live in Mayotte, Comoros Archipelago in the Mozambique Channel where we use a datum of the international 1924 ellipsoid and a UTM (38 south) projection system.
The local datum is called 'Combani 1950' and I wrote it in the datum.table file.In spite of this, i seem to be unable to use it correctly. When i try to use i.points3 over an XY projection system targeted to a location in our local system i get the following error message :
cannot initialize pj
cause: unknown elliptical parameter name
And back to the GRASS prompt it goes 
If the target location doesn't use any datum, there doesn't seem to be any problem. So, either there is a place that I don't know where i should write my datum informations, or i made a mistake writing them to datum.table.
Could anybody explain me this or review my datum file please.
Thanks in advance,
Guillaume Criloux
SIG Conseil