On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 07:01:51PM +0200, Karl Broich wrote:
> I tried to install GRASS 6.1 from source on our HP ProLiant ML570 (4x64bit
> Intel Xenion, SuSE Enterprise 8.0) and failed completely.
Please report errors in detail. Maybe we can help then...
Markus
> My guess is that SuSE Enterprise 8.0 is not suitable for scientific
> purpose. Is this right? Has anyone experience with GRASS on
> 64bit-smp--intel-architecture?
>
Hamish/Markus you are absolutely right a request should not look like this. But there _had_ been a lot of error messages in each package. In meantime the problem is solved. I took a look at the system and found out that after full standard installation of SuSE 8.0+SLES parts were missing (f.i. g77) or obviously corrupted (f.i. zlib). An online update corrected all this and compilation was possible after some system specific fitting in configure.
Some info:
The ProLiant ML570 has four 2.8GHz-Intel-Xeon-processors + RAID. The Xeons have a 64bit-bandwidth -- potentially 
SuSE 8.0 is not able to support 64bit fully for Intel. For AMD it does. The 4 64bit-processors are treated as 8 32bit-processors. Consequently more students can reasonably work parallel. But for power-users the possible capacity is almost halved. The GRASS-setup for this computer is identical to normal x86. -> no real 64bit test installation. The installed Qt Version 3.05 prevents the compilation of qgis (this requires Qt 3.1 or later).
SuSE 9.0 and > 9.0 supports intel 64bit and has QT > 3.1.
Karl
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Karl,
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 05:09:57PM +0200, Karl Broich wrote:
>On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 07:01:51PM +0200, Karl Broich wrote:
>> I tried to install GRASS 6.1 from source on our HP ProLiant ML570
>(4x64bit
>> Intel Xenion, SuSE Enterprise 8.0) and failed completely.
>
>Please report errors in detail. Maybe we can help then...
>
>Markus
>
>> My guess is that SuSE Enterprise 8.0 is not suitable for scientific
>> purpose. Is this right? Has anyone experience with GRASS on
>> 64bit-smp--intel-architecture?
>>
Hamish/Markus you are absolutely right a request should not look like this.
But there _had_ been a lot of error messages in each package. In meantime
the problem is solved. I took a look at the system and found out that after
full standard installation of SuSE 8.0+SLES parts were missing (f.i. g77)
or obviously corrupted (f.i. zlib). An online update corrected all this and
compilation was possible after some system specific fitting in configure.
Could you provide us with a diff (changes) of configure[.in]?
Or send the full file to me for comparison? I would like to get
configure[.in] fixed for 64bit machines...
Some info:
The ProLiant ML570 has four 2.8GHz-Intel-Xeon-processors + RAID. The Xeons
have a 64bit-bandwidth -- potentially
SuSE 8.0 is not able to support 64bit fully for Intel. For AMD it does. The
4 64bit-processors are treated as 8 32bit-processors. Consequently more
students can reasonably work parallel. But for power-users the possible
capacity is almost halved. The GRASS-setup for this computer is identical
to normal x86. -> no real 64bit test installation.
I am not yet familiar with 64 bit stuff (but we'll have a new machine
soon here). Would be interesting to know if there is anything to define
for GRASSS on 64bit CPUs in terms of speed or whatever.
The installed Qt Version
3.05 prevents the compilation of qgis (this requires Qt 3.1 or later).
BTW:
If you want QGIS, you need 3.1 or (much better) a later Qt version.
SuSE 9.0 and > 9.0 supports intel 64bit and has QT > 3.1.
Does anyone know how other distros perform for 64bit?
Markus
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If you want QGIS, you need 3.1 or (much better) a later Qt version.
> SuSE 9.0 and > 9.0 supports intel 64bit and has QT > 3.1.
Does anyone know how other distros perform for 64bit?
I had major problems with SuSE 9.2, Mandrake 10.1 and FC3 with SATA driver
issues. Some couldn't find the SATA disks at all, others tried to install
but couldn't boot. All were giving various errors with SATA support. All
worked fine with PATA drives, however.
(Shuttle socket 739 PC, software RAID1 & RAID0 partitions on 2x drives)
Several other local Linux users had similar problems. Ubuntu worked fine
out of the box, so my A64 GIS workstation is currently running that. No
problems with performance (subjective feel of how it performs only).
My distro preference is Mandrake(Mandriva) or SuSE though, so I'm hoping
to throw SuSE 9.3 and LinGIS at the box after the June OS GIS conference
in Minneapolis. (Perhaps with a new BIOS and new dual core cpu ??? 
Brent Wood