[pgrouting-dev] MOTION 1

Hello all

As part of looking forward to have pgROuting be considered as an OSGeo project
We are starting with the way to handle motions from PSC

First motion is here

https://github.com/pgRouting/admin/wiki/MOTION-1:-Speed-up-Release-3.1.0

Members of PSC please edit your vote by Friday.

Developers please you can comment on the motion using this mail thread.

So that adding your comments on the motions get registered on this mail thread

Kind regards
Vicky Vergara

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Hi Vicky,

Is the meaning of “MOTION” more or less equal to how other projects call it “RFC”?

Another question is, if it’s intentional to use a Wiki page for that, because it makes it impossible to discuss in comments.
If there is no specific reason to use a Wiki, shall we make it an issue?

Best regards,
Daniel

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I think using wiki for RFC is pretty standard for projects.

If it is an issue, it gets lost with the other issues and this particular motion will probably comprise more than one issue when it’s all done.

Here is an example of how GDAL does there’s - https://gdal.org/development/rfc/index.html

In terms of MOTION vs. RFC. I think RFC implies something more permanent in a project like a change in Protocol or change in disk format whereas Motion implies something lighter weight but that still requires PSC vote such as to make a new release in X days. Motions are often just done in public email list without any dedicated page.

It’s hard to say where this one falls and I’m not sure the subtlety is worth the hassle, so maybe call it an RFC.

Like for example this one GDAL has - https://gdal.org/development/rfc/rfc38_ogr_faster_open.html (seems closest to what we are doing here in terms of future implications) except we are mixing in, change in future logic, as well as request to release said logic soon.

Thanks,

Regina

From: Daniel Kastl [mailto:daniel@georepublic.de]
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 8:59 PM
To: Vicky Vergara vicky@georepublic.de
Cc: pgRouting developers mailing list pgrouting-dev@lists.osgeo.org; Cayetano Benavent cayetano@cartodb.com; Rohith Reddy rohithreddy2219@gmail.com; Regina Obe lr@pcorp.us
Subject: Re: MOTION 1

Hi Vicky,

Is the meaning of “MOTION” more or less equal to how other projects call it “RFC”?

Another question is, if it’s intentional to use a Wiki page for that, because it makes it impossible to discuss in comments.

If there is no specific reason to use a Wiki, shall we make it an issue?

Best regards,

Daniel

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 7:25 AM Vicky Vergara <vicky@georepublic.de> wrote:

Hello all

As part of looking forward to have pgROuting be considered as an OSGeo project

We are starting with the way to handle motions from PSC

First motion is here

https://github.com/pgRouting/admin/wiki/MOTION-1:-Speed-up-Release-3.1.0

Members of PSC please edit your vote by Friday.

Developers please you can comment on the motion using this mail thread.

So that adding your comments on the motions get registered on this mail thread

Kind regards

Vicky Vergara

Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Salzmannstraße 44, 
81739 München, Germany

Vicky Vergara
Operations Research

eMail: vicky@[georepublic.de](http://georepublic.de)
Web: [https://georepublic.info](https://georepublic.info)

Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
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Hi all
I added this mail thread to the MOTION so comments can be done here

Regards

Vicky

···
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Thanks, Regina!

I’m not the biggest fan of Github Wiki, because it’s a bit hidden as a tab of a repository.
Since Github Wiki is actually a repository as well, which then also allows directories, etc., why not just use the pgRouting/admin Git repository for MOTIONs?
Actually there is a folder RFC already, probably to preserve some old content.

This would make it also easy to change platforms someday if necessary, it is kind of developer-friendly, and still renders nicely with Markdown.
And we could also combine it with an issue that could then relate to the Git repository.

Too complicated?

Cheers,
Daniel

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Either works for me.

From: Daniel Kastl [mailto:daniel@georepublic.de]
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 11:08 AM
To: Vicky Vergara vicky@georepublic.de
Cc: Regina Obe lr@pcorp.us; pgRouting developers mailing list pgrouting-dev@lists.osgeo.org; Cayetano Benavent cayetano@cartodb.com; Rohith Reddy rohithreddy2219@gmail.com
Subject: Re: MOTION 1

Thanks, Regina!

I’m not the biggest fan of Github Wiki, because it’s a bit hidden as a tab of a repository.

Since Github Wiki is actually a repository as well, which then also allows directories, etc., why not just use the pgRouting/admin Git repository for MOTIONs?

Actually there is a folder RFC already, probably to preserve some old content.

This would make it also easy to change platforms someday if necessary, it is kind of developer-friendly, and still renders nicely with Markdown.

And we could also combine it with an issue that could then relate to the Git repository.

Too complicated?

Cheers,

Daniel

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 11:28 PM Vicky Vergara <vicky@georepublic.de> wrote:

Hi all
I added this mail thread to the MOTION so comments can be done here

Regards

Vicky

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 3:08 AM Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

I think using wiki for RFC is pretty standard for projects.

If it is an issue, it gets lost with the other issues and this particular motion will probably comprise more than one issue when it’s all done.

Here is an example of how GDAL does there’s - https://gdal.org/development/rfc/index.html

In terms of MOTION vs. RFC. I think RFC implies something more permanent in a project like a change in Protocol or change in disk format whereas Motion implies something lighter weight but that still requires PSC vote such as to make a new release in X days. Motions are often just done in public email list without any dedicated page.

It’s hard to say where this one falls and I’m not sure the subtlety is worth the hassle, so maybe call it an RFC.

Like for example this one GDAL has - https://gdal.org/development/rfc/rfc38_ogr_faster_open.html (seems closest to what we are doing here in terms of future implications) except we are mixing in, change in future logic, as well as request to release said logic soon.

Thanks,

Regina

From: Daniel Kastl [mailto:daniel@georepublic.de]
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 8:59 PM
To: Vicky Vergara <vicky@georepublic.de>
Cc: pgRouting developers mailing list <pgrouting-dev@lists.osgeo.org>; Cayetano Benavent <cayetano@cartodb.com>; Rohith Reddy <rohithreddy2219@gmail.com>; Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Subject: Re: MOTION 1

Hi Vicky,

Is the meaning of “MOTION” more or less equal to how other projects call it “RFC”?

Another question is, if it’s intentional to use a Wiki page for that, because it makes it impossible to discuss in comments.

If there is no specific reason to use a Wiki, shall we make it an issue?

Best regards,

Daniel

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 7:25 AM Vicky Vergara <vicky@georepublic.de> wrote:

Hello all

As part of looking forward to have pgROuting be considered as an OSGeo project

We are starting with the way to handle motions from PSC

First motion is here

https://github.com/pgRouting/admin/wiki/MOTION-1:-Speed-up-Release-3.1.0

Members of PSC please edit your vote by Friday.

Developers please you can comment on the motion using this mail thread.

So that adding your comments on the motions get registered on this mail thread

Kind regards

Vicky Vergara

Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Salzmannstraße 44, 
81739 München, Germany
 
Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
 
eMail: vicky@[georepublic.de](http://georepublic.de)
Web: [https://georepublic.info](https://georepublic.info)
 
Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
 
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CEO: Daniel Kastl
 

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Web: https://georepublic.info

Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Salzmannstraße 44, 
81739 München, Germany

Vicky Vergara
Operations Research

eMail: vicky@[georepublic.de](http://georepublic.de)
Web: [https://georepublic.info](https://georepublic.info)

Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9

Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
CEO: Daniel Kastl

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Web: https://georepublic.info

Hi all,
I see this message thread, because I am subscribed in the pgRouting developers mailing list.

Does this mean that I have right to “comment”? to “vote” ?

Best regards,

Mahmoud Sakr

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 6:49:02 AM GMT+2, Vicky Vergara vicky@georepublic.de wrote:

Hi all
I added this mail thread to the MOTION so comments can be done here

Regards

Vicky

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 3:08 AM Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

I think using wiki for RFC is pretty standard for projects.

If it is an issue, it gets lost with the other issues and this particular motion will probably comprise more than one issue when it’s all done.

Here is an example of how GDAL does there’s - https://gdal.org/development/rfc/index.html

In terms of MOTION vs. RFC. I think RFC implies something more permanent in a project like a change in Protocol or change in disk format whereas Motion implies something lighter weight but that still requires PSC vote such as to make a new release in X days. Motions are often just done in public email list without any dedicated page.

It’s hard to say where this one falls and I’m not sure the subtlety is worth the hassle, so maybe call it an RFC.

Like for example this one GDAL has - https://gdal.org/development/rfc/rfc38_ogr_faster_open.html (seems closest to what we are doing here in terms of future implications) except we are mixing in, change in future logic, as well as request to release said logic soon.

Thanks,

Regina

From: Daniel Kastl [mailto:daniel@georepublic.de]
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 8:59 PM
To: Vicky Vergara <vicky@georepublic.de>
Cc: pgRouting developers mailing list <pgrouting-dev@lists.osgeo.org>; Cayetano Benavent <cayetano@cartodb.com>; Rohith Reddy <rohithreddy2219@gmail.com>; Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Subject: Re: MOTION 1

Hi Vicky,

Is the meaning of “MOTION” more or less equal to how other projects call it “RFC”?

Another question is, if it’s intentional to use a Wiki page for that, because it makes it impossible to discuss in comments.

If there is no specific reason to use a Wiki, shall we make it an issue?

Best regards,

Daniel

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 7:25 AM Vicky Vergara <vicky@georepublic.de> wrote:

Hello all

As part of looking forward to have pgROuting be considered as an OSGeo project

We are starting with the way to handle motions from PSC

First motion is here

https://github.com/pgRouting/admin/wiki/MOTION-1:-Speed-up-Release-3.1.0

Members of PSC please edit your vote by Friday.

Developers please you can comment on the motion using this mail thread.

So that adding your comments on the motions get registered on this mail thread

Kind regards

Vicky Vergara

Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Salzmannstraße 44, 
81739 München, Germany
 
Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
 
eMail: vicky@[georepublic.de](http://georepublic.de)
Web: [https://georepublic.info](https://georepublic.info)
 
Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
 
Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
CEO: Daniel Kastl
 

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Web: https://georepublic.info

Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Salzmannstraße 44, 
81739 München, Germany

Vicky Vergara
Operations Research

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You always have the right to comment. Voting only if your name is on the list.

From: Mahmoud Sakr [mailto:m_attia_sakr@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 6:35 AM
To: Regina Obe lr@pcorp.us; pgRouting developers mailing list pgrouting-dev@lists.osgeo.org
Cc: Cayetano Benavent cayetano@cartodb.com
Subject: Re: [pgrouting-dev] MOTION 1

Hi all,

I see this message thread, because I am subscribed in the pgRouting developers mailing list.

Does this mean that I have right to “comment”? to “vote” ?

Best regards,

Mahmoud Sakr

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 6:49:02 AM GMT+2, Vicky Vergara <vicky@georepublic.de> wrote:

Hi all
I added this mail thread to the MOTION so comments can be done here

Regards

Vicky

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 3:08 AM Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

I think using wiki for RFC is pretty standard for projects.

If it is an issue, it gets lost with the other issues and this particular motion will probably comprise more than one issue when it’s all done.

Here is an example of how GDAL does there’s - https://gdal.org/development/rfc/index.html

In terms of MOTION vs. RFC. I think RFC implies something more permanent in a project like a change in Protocol or change in disk format whereas Motion implies something lighter weight but that still requires PSC vote such as to make a new release in X days. Motions are often just done in public email list without any dedicated page.

It’s hard to say where this one falls and I’m not sure the subtlety is worth the hassle, so maybe call it an RFC.

Like for example this one GDAL has - https://gdal.org/development/rfc/rfc38_ogr_faster_open.html (seems closest to what we are doing here in terms of future implications) except we are mixing in, change in future logic, as well as request to release said logic soon.

Thanks,

Regina

From: Daniel Kastl [mailto:daniel@georepublic.de]
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 8:59 PM
To: Vicky Vergara <vicky@georepublic.de>
Cc: pgRouting developers mailing list <pgrouting-dev@lists.osgeo.org>; Cayetano Benavent <cayetano@cartodb.com>; Rohith Reddy <rohithreddy2219@gmail.com>; Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Subject: Re: MOTION 1

Hi Vicky,

Is the meaning of “MOTION” more or less equal to how other projects call it “RFC”?

Another question is, if it’s intentional to use a Wiki page for that, because it makes it impossible to discuss in comments.

If there is no specific reason to use a Wiki, shall we make it an issue?

Best regards,

Daniel

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 7:25 AM Vicky Vergara <vicky@georepublic.de> wrote:

Hello all

As part of looking forward to have pgROuting be considered as an OSGeo project

We are starting with the way to handle motions from PSC

First motion is here

https://github.com/pgRouting/admin/wiki/MOTION-1:-Speed-up-Release-3.1.0

Members of PSC please edit your vote by Friday.

Developers please you can comment on the motion using this mail thread.

So that adding your comments on the motions get registered on this mail thread

Kind regards

Vicky Vergara

Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Salzmannstraße 44, 
81739 München, Germany
 
Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
 
eMail: vicky@[georepublic.de](http://georepublic.de)
Web: [https://georepublic.info](https://georepublic.info)
 
Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
 
Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
CEO: Daniel Kastl
 

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Salzmannstraße 44, 
81739 München, Germany

Vicky Vergara
Operations Research

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Hi Vicky,

+1 to this motion. I’ve edited wiki and voted there.

Regards,

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