RE: [Geoserver-devel] Oracle Support

Did manage to get oracle sort of working yesterday - I think my remaining problems were that I was building the geotools jars from the CVS head. I’ll try a few more things tonight and let you know how I get on. The things I had to do were a bit different from the docs, though.

I don’t have a public facing oracle, but I’ll try to search oracle’s technet site for suitable articles for installing oracle on linux. They are there and they do work, but they can be a pain to find :frowning:

I’ll now take this discussion to the jira issue as requested.

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-----Original Message-----
From: cholmes@anonymised.com [mailto:cholmes@anonymised.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:26 PM
To: Grange, John
Cc: geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; jgarnett@anonymised.com
Subject: RE: [Geoserver-devel] Oracle Support

Ah, I didn’t know that I had people who were testing out oracle who
would be willing to give feedback. The big problem is that
none of the
current main geoserver developers have an oracle spatial database to
play with. I tried to set one up several times a long while ago on
linux but it just kept falling over on the install, and just
don’t have
the time to set it all up right now. And the contributor of
the oracle
stuff, who the list usually relies on to carry the oracle load, is
really busy on his main work. So if you have time the next few days
I’ll do what I can to help you out, make it one of my top priorities,
as I didn’t even know that oracle was completely not working. If you
know of an oracle install that I could connect to from outside that
would be the most helpful, as I can try it out myself. Barring that
you can send me detailed error messages and logs, and I can try to
diagnose the problem.

I did update the advanced.xml document in cvs to reflect the latest
changes that I know about, but there are things I’m not sure
of since I
can’t test it myself.

The one thing I do know is that the gt2-oracle-spatial jar is
no longer
being included in the install, because it leads to the web application
some how malfunctioning. I didn’t quite understand this, Jody, could
you explain more?

The thing to do now is to download the latest geotools
release which is
available at
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/geotools/geotools-bin-2.0-B
3.zip?download
, and then copy the gt2-oracle-spatial jar into WEB-INF/lib directory
of the expanded war, along with the two other oracle jars
needed (these
were required before, I believe). If working from the source and
building the war yourself then you need to comment out the line of the
war build that says ‘’, so
that it gets copied over to the war.

I believe the real fix will be when the oracle datastore factory can
detect if the extra jars are present (which actually shouldn’t be too
hard to do, I can try to get it working). Though actually putting the
gt2-oracle-spatial jar in without the other too seems a bit much,
perhaps we should just make the oracle spatial jar downloadable from
sourceforge, with instructions there?

Ok, let’s move this discussion over to
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ViewIssue.jspa?key=GEOS-149 , so we’re
not flooding the list. I’ll post these comments there too, but yeah,
I’d love to get to the bottom of this issue, and I apologize for not
giving it more attention, but it’s quite hard when I don’t have an
oracle install.

Chris

Quoting “Grange, John” <john.grange@anonymised.com.221…>:

Mark,

I’ve completely given up trying to use the web configuration for
oracle - I
get the same message as you. If you try setting things up manually,
though,
it still doesn’t work, but you do get new and interesting error
messages to
confuse you :slight_smile:

Regards

John Grange
Software Team Leader
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Email: john.grange@anonymised.com

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UK
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Adams [mailto:markadams@anonymised.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:28 PM
To: geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Geoserver-devel] Oracle Support

I am concerned about this as well. I am a new user, just installed
GeoServer
for the first time. I love the concept, but the first thing I tried
to do
was create a connection to an Oracle Spatial database I
have here and
I
haven’t been able to get the parameters to be processed. I was
thinking that
I was doing something wrong, but John’s email has me thinking that
the
Oracle support isn’t there yet? Can someone clarify this
for me? Thx.


Mark Adams
Business & Systems Analyst
Cuesta Systems Inc.
5230 South Service Road
Burlington, ON L7L 5K2
Phone: 905-333-4544 x14
Fax: 905-333-0455
Email: markadams@anonymised.com

-----Original Message-----
From: geoserver-devel-admin@anonymised.comnet
[mailto:geoserver-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of
Grange,
John
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:31 AM
To: ‘geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net’
Subject: [Geoserver-devel] Oracle Support

Please could somebody tell me what the current status is of
Oracle in
geoserver.
Geoserver appears very promising for the applications I develop, but
if I
can’t get it to work with oracle, it’s useless for me.
And yes, I have followed the available instructions to get it
working. And
where did the gt2-oracle-spatial.jar go?
John Grange
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Did manage to get oracle **sort** of working yesterday - I think my
remaining problems were that I was building the geotools jars from
the CVS
head. I'll try a few more things tonight and let you know how I get
on.
The things I had to do were a bit different from the docs, though.

Cool. Take good notes and we'll turn them into the new docs. Stuff
like this has me itching to take geoserver over to confluence and wiki
as well, as then it wouldn't necessary for all little updates to go
through me. Perhaps we can borrow a bit of the geotools wiki for now
where you can put the info up. Would be nice to have little how to's
for each datastore actually, those would be in the scope of geotools,
and then maybe we could squeeze a bit about geoserver specific stuff in
too.

I don't have a public facing oracle, but I'll try to search oracle's
technet
site for suitable articles for installing oracle on linux. They are
there
and they do work, but they can be a pain to find :frowning:

Cool. Yeah, I no longer have time to set it up, and the computer I'd
put it on is in New York. But if you find them it'd be a nice resource
to have.

Chris

I'll now take this discussion to the jira issue as requested.

John Grange
Software Team Leader

Tel: +44 (0) 1749 834922
Email: john.grange@anonymised.com

BlueFinger Limited
Underwood Business Park, Wookey Hole Road, Wells, Somerset, BA5 1AF,
UK
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Fax: +44 (0) 1749 834902
Mobile: +44 (0) 7876 038058
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cholmes@anonymised.com [mailto:cholmes@anonymised.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:26 PM
> To: Grange, John
> Cc: geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; jgarnett@anonymised.com
> Subject: RE: [Geoserver-devel] Oracle Support
>
>
> Ah, I didn't know that I had people who were testing out oracle who
> would be willing to give feedback. The big problem is that
> none of the
> current main geoserver developers have an oracle spatial database
to
> play with. I tried to set one up several times a long while ago on
> linux but it just kept falling over on the install, and just
> don't have
> the time to set it all up right now. And the contributor of
> the oracle
> stuff, who the list usually relies on to carry the oracle load, is
> really busy on his main work. So if you have time the next few
days
> I'll do what I can to help you out, make it one of my top
priorities,
> as I didn't even know that oracle was completely not working. If
you
> know of an oracle install that I could connect to from outside that
> would be the most helpful, as I can try it out myself. Barring
that
> you can send me detailed error messages and logs, and I can try to
> diagnose the problem.
>
> I did update the advanced.xml document in cvs to reflect the latest
> changes that I know about, but there are things I'm not sure
> of since I
> can't test it myself.
>
> The one thing I do know is that the gt2-oracle-spatial jar is
> no longer
> being included in the install, because it leads to the web
application
> some how malfunctioning. I didn't quite understand this, Jody,
could
> you explain more?
>
> The thing to do now is to download the latest geotools
> release which is
> available at
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/geotools/geotools-bin-2.0-B
3.zip?download
> , and then copy the gt2-oracle-spatial jar into WEB-INF/lib
directory
> of the expanded war, along with the two other oracle jars
> needed (these
> were required before, I believe). If working from the source and
> building the war yourself then you need to comment out the line of
the
> war build that says '<exclude name="**/gt2-oracle-spatial.jar"/>',
so
> that it gets copied over to the war.
>
> I believe the real fix will be when the oracle datastore factory
can
> detect if the extra jars are present (which actually shouldn't be
too
> hard to do, I can try to get it working). Though actually putting
the
> gt2-oracle-spatial jar in without the other too seems a bit much,
> perhaps we should just make the oracle spatial jar downloadable
from
> sourceforge, with instructions there?
>
> Ok, let's move this discussion over to
> http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ViewIssue.jspa?key=GEOS-149 , so
we're
> not flooding the list. I'll post these comments there too, but
yeah,
> I'd love to get to the bottom of this issue, and I apologize for
not
> giving it more attention, but it's quite hard when I don't have an
> oracle install.
>
> Chris
>
> Quoting "Grange, John" <john.grange@anonymised.com>:
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > I've completely given up trying to use the web configuration for
> > oracle - I
> > get the same message as you. If you try setting things up
manually,
> > though,
> > it still doesn't work, but you do get new and interesting error
> > messages to
> > confuse you :slight_smile:
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John Grange
> > Software Team Leader
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1749 834922
> > Email: john.grange@anonymised.com
> >
> > BlueFinger Limited
> > Underwood Business Park, Wookey Hole Road, Wells, Somerset, BA5
1AF,
> > UK
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1749 834900
> > Fax: +44 (0) 1749 834902
> > Mobile: +44 (0) 7876 038058
> > web: www.bluefinger.com <http://www.bluefinger.com/&gt;
> >
> > Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back
> East, Temple
> > Quay,
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Adams [mailto:markadams@anonymised.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:28 PM
> > To: geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: RE: [Geoserver-devel] Oracle Support
> >
> >
> > I am concerned about this as well. I am a new user, just
installed
> > GeoServer
> > for the first time. I love the concept, but the first thing I
tried
> > to do
> > was create a connection to an Oracle Spatial database I
> have here and
> > I
> > haven't been able to get the parameters to be processed. I was
> > thinking that
> > I was doing something wrong, but John's email has me thinking
that
> > the
> > Oracle support isn't there yet? Can someone clarify this
> for me? Thx.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Mark Adams
> > Business & Systems Analyst
> > Cuesta Systems Inc.
> > 5230 South Service Road
> > Burlington, ON L7L 5K2
> > Phone: 905-333-4544 x14
> > Fax: 905-333-0455
> > Email: markadams@anonymised.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: geoserver-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> > [mailto:geoserver-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of
> > Grange,
> > John
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:31 AM
> > To: 'geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net'
> > Subject: [Geoserver-devel] Oracle Support
> >
> > Please could somebody tell me what the current status is of
> Oracle in
> > geoserver.
> > Geoserver appears very promising for the applications I develop,
but
> > if I
> > can't get it to work with oracle, it's useless for me.
> > And yes, I have followed the available instructions to get it
> > working. And
> > where did the gt2-oracle-spatial.jar go?
> > John Grange
> > Software Team Leader
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1749 834922
> > Email: john.grange@anonymised.com
> >
> > BlueFinger Limited
> > Underwood Business Park, Wookey Hole Road, Wells, Somerset, BA5
1AF,
> > UK
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1749 834900
> > Fax: +44 (0) 1749 834902
> > Mobile: +44 (0) 7876 038058
> > web: www.bluefinger.com < http://www.bluefinger.com
> > <http://www.bluefinger.com> >
> >
> > Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back
> East, Temple
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