s.surf.idw - interpolation technique

Martin_Ameskamp2 · June 26, 1997, 9:13am

Hello,

Please can someone tell me the references/papers where I can get more
details and descriptions on the numerical approximation (weighted
averaging) interpolation techniques that is used in the command s.surf.idw
- surface generation from sites data program. This command was written by
Michael Shapiro of the USACERL.

Try the following:

@article{GW78,
  author = {Gordon, W.J. and Wixom, J.A.},
  title = {Shepard's Method of ``{M}etric {I}nterpolation'' to Bivariate
    and Multivariate Interpolation},
  journal = {Mathematics of Computation},
  year = 1978,
  volume = 32,
  number = 141,
  pages = {253--264}
}

  The original author of the method (idw for inverse distance weighting)
  seems to be Shepard, but I'm afraid I haven't got an original
  reference. I also haven't got the above paper handy, but I believe
  it should provide some more details, besides extending the method.

Martin
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Hello,

I don't know if you've had any replies to your question yet but here is
my contribution.

s.surf.idw uses inverse distance squared weighting (hence .idw). The
technique is discussed in many introductory texts.

Try:

Burrough, P.A. (1986) Principles of Geographical Information Systems.
Monographs on Soil and Resources Survey No. 12. Oxford: Clarendon Press.

One of the chapters on interpolation includes an account of inverse
distance weighting.

The technique is also discussed in:

Isaaks, E. H. and R. M. Srivastava (1989) An Introduction to Applied
Geostatistics. New York: Oxford University Press, pp. 259 or
thereabouts.

I hope this helps,

Chris Lloyd
cdl195@soton.ac.uk

Department of Geography,
University of Southampton

Please can someone tell me the references/papers where I can get more
details and descriptions on the numerical approximation (weighted
averaging) interpolation techniques that is used in the command s.surf.idw
- surface generation from sites data program. This command was written by
Michael Shapiro of the USACERL.

Your help is very much appreciated.
Thanks.

Norkhair Ibrahim
Nottingham University
UK

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In message <33B193E5.B9D@mail.utexas.edu> writes:

I am looking for GIS job lists. Thanks- Christy Neal

Try this web site: http://www.ggrweb.com

Michael Hanratty Phone: (612) 627-4590
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Is it possible to do a loop within r.mapcalc? If so, could someone
post an example of how I could increment the i and j variables that
indicate the relative position of a pixel (eg., x[-1,2]. I
determined that I could put an address in those positions and do the
loop around r.mapcalc, but I assume I could save time if I can do it
within. I want to do a pretty big neighborhood but keep the window
resolution high. If I were a REAL woman of course I would do it all
in C, but it boggles my mind. Any suggestions? I'm trying to
put an error distribution around telemetry points.
My guts of my current script is like this:
r.mapcalc count_sites = 0
i=-5
j=-5
(looping stuff here, including weights for each i,j)
r.mapcalc count_sites = count_sites + telempts[Si,Sj]
(increment Si and Sj here and loop again until max i and j are
reached in this example it would be 5)
Erin O'Doherty eodohert@wyoming.com
Rocky Mountain Research Station
USDA Forest Service

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Dear Grass Users,

I would like to mosaic 2 (possibly 4) USGS 1:250,000 DEM data files into
one. Does anyone have suggestions of where I can look for a procedure to
do this? (tutorial going through an example, article, etc.)

Brian Skahill
Phone: (303) 556-4069
e-mail: beskahil@ouray.cudenver.edu or BESkahill@aol.com

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Dear Erin

Try this in your shell script:
At 19:10 26/06/97 +0000, you wrote:

Is it possible to do a loop within r.mapcalc? If so, could someone
post an example of how I could increment the i and j variables that
indicate the relative position of a pixel (eg., x[-1,2]. I
determined that I could put an address in those positions and do the
loop around r.mapcalc, but I assume I could save time if I can do it
within. I want to do a pretty big neighborhood but keep the window
resolution high. If I were a REAL woman of course I would do it all
in C, but it boggles my mind. Any suggestions? I'm trying to
put an error distribution around telemetry points.
My guts of my current script is like this:
r.mapcalc count_sites = 0

while [ $i != 5 ]
do
   j=1
   while [ $j != 5 ]
   do
       put in whatever weights you're using
       r.mapcalc count_sites = count_sites + telempts[i, j]

       j=`expr $j + 1`
       done

   i=`expr $i + 1`
done

Hope I've understood your question properly and this helps to answer it!
Regards
Roy

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Brian Skahill wrote:

I would like to mosaic 2 (possibly 4) USGS 1:250,000 DEM data files
into
one. Does anyone have suggestions of where I can look for a procedure
to
do this? (tutorial going through an example, article, etc.)

Is r.patch what you are after?
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Hello,

I have a problem about using the ghost script.

I try to use the ghost view to print a MAC file on PC computer.
Firstly, I print the file to a post script file on MAC, then use the
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Do you know how to solve this problem? Please reply me if you
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USDA/NRCS has developed away program that will convert raster file
so they can be imported into mapgen.

information can be obtained from jschuler@itc.nrcs.usda.gov

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In message <9706261929.AA26143@ouray.cudenver.edu> writes:

Dear Grass Users,

I would like to mosaic 2 (possibly 4) USGS 1:250,000 DEM data files into
one. Does anyone have suggestions of where I can look for a procedure to
do this? (tutorial going through an example, article, etc.)

First, convert USGS dem files to GRASS format:

1. convert ascii file to binary:
m.dmaUSGSread top=1 bottom=1201 left=1 right=1201 output=binfname
logfile=logfname < demfname

2. Rotate binary file 90 degrees, creating dem in lat-long format
m.rot90 [-q] input=binfname output=llfname rows=1201 cols=1201
bpc=2

3. Convert from lat-long to UTM projection and put in GRASS database
r.in.ll [-s] input=llfname output=rastfname bpc=2
        corner=corner,lat,lon dimension=1201,1201
        res=3,3 spheroid=wgs72
    The latitude and longitude of the sw corner is the first pair of
the 6-digit values in the header of the original dem file. These six
digit values are arc-seconds. Divide by 3600 to get degrees. Enter
these values in the corner= input value for r.in.ll.

Next, set your window large enough to include all of the maps, then run
r.mapcalc with the following command: bigmap = max(map1,map2,map3,map4)

This should work unless there are gaps between the maps. Then you would have to
go in and fill in the gaps with d.edit.

Hope this helps.

Michael Hanratty Phone: (612) 627-4590
St. Anthony Falls Laboratory Fax: (612) 627-4609
Dept. of Civil Engineering
University of Minnesota
Mississippi River @ 3rd Ave. SE
Minneapolis, MN 55414

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I need to set up a digitizer to a Sparc 20 running GRASS 4.1. the g.help
mentions a document that apparently explains how to set up the digitizer.
Where is this document/ or how do I set up the digitizer? thanks
Thomas Foster
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Looking for a command to use in grass414 called nad2nad to convert from
one nad to another.

Thanks Teresa Salyer <salyer@tiaer.tarleton.edu>
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On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Teresa Salyer wrote:

Looking for a command to use in grass414 called nad2nad to convert from
one nad to another.

nad2nad really isn't part of GRASS. It is part of Evenden's
PROJ.4 library which GRASS uses in it's projection calculations.

For the most part, Evenden's PROJ.4 projection is a library of C
functions. GRASS calls these in it's projection handling
commands. However, PROJ.4 also includes 3 main programs with the
library. These are proj, nad2nad, and (I forget). I don't
know if these come with GRASS or not, but they can be gotten
from the USGS ftp site which keeps PROJ.4. I don't recall the
ftp site off hand, but I can get the name. Or if you would
prefer, my client would probably allow me to post my copy of
PROJ.4 on their ftp site. I have binaries for AIX 3.2, Linux Elf,
IRIX 5.2.

Please write back to me if you need me to get the ftp site name, or you
want me to post PROJ.4 on my client's ftp site.

Dave Mandel

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I have tried a number of methods to import some USGS data (dem and dlg)
without success. I am beginning to think that I am missing a
significant step in the process. I am learning as I go along. Can the
data from the GeoData center at USGS be imported DIRECTLY into GRASS or
some other gis? or does it have to be processesed first?

For example, the 1:100,000 dlg's at the ftp site are described as ascii
files. GRASS v.in.dlg talks about ascii and bin dlg files. When I
issue the v.in.dlg, it just hangs.

I have been downloading the data and attempting various GRASS functions but
I get various errors (too various to remember right now). My major
question is what are the steps? and how could I learn/ read about it?
thanks

Thomas Foster email: htf1@psu.edu
Pennsylvania State University voice: 814-865-1231
Department of Anthropology fax: 814-863-1474
409 Carpenter Bldg.
University Park, PA 16802

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In message <3.0.1.32.19970701164847.00920a50@email.psu.edu> writes:

I have tried a number of methods to import some USGS data (dem and dlg)
without success.

Here's what I've come up with for these two types of data:

Steps for importing USGS DLG files

1. Download from EROS Data Center (keep .gz suffix)
2. Unzip file using gzip -d fname
3. Divide into 80 character lines: fold fname > newfname
4. Import into GRASS: v.import
   Options:
        1
        newfname
        y UTM projection (sometimes not asked)
        n Lines, not Areas
        n Don't do multiple attribute (runs out of memory)
        n Don't snap

To convert USGS dem files to GRASS format:

1. convert ascii file to binary:
m.dmaUSGSread top=1 bottom=1201 left=1 right=1201 output=binfname
logfile=logfname < demfname

2. Rotate binary file 90 degrees, creating dem in lat-long format
m.rot90 [-q] input=binfname output=llfname rows=1201 cols=1201
bpc=2

3. Convert from lat-long to UTM projection and put in GRASS database
r.in.ll [-s] input=llfname output=rastfname bpc=2
        corner=corner,lat,lon dimension=1201,1201
        res=3,3 spheroid=wgs72
    The latitude and longitude of the sw corner is the first pair of
the 6-digit values in the header of the original dem file. These six
digit values are arc-seconds. Divide by 3600 to get degrees. Enter
these values in the corner= input value for r.in.ll.

Hope this helps.

Michael Hanratty Phone: (612) 627-4590
St. Anthony Falls Laboratory Fax: (612) 627-4609
Dept. of Civil Engineering
University of Minnesota
Mississippi River @ 3rd Ave. SE
Minneapolis, MN 55414

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Thomas,
One step that I see a lot of people miss when downloading data from the
GeoData Center is to forget to add record delimiters to the files. To do
so, you use the UNIX dd command. The specific parameters for the dd
command are given in the README files at the GeoData Center site. Hope
this helps.

Don Ebert
Research Associate
USGS Biological Resources Division
Cooperative Studies Unit
University of Nevada - Las Vegas

On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Thomas Foster wrote:

I have tried a number of methods to import some USGS data (dem and dlg)
without success. I am beginning to think that I am missing a
significant step in the process. I am learning as I go along. Can the
data from the GeoData center at USGS be imported DIRECTLY into GRASS or
some other gis? or does it have to be processesed first?

For example, the 1:100,000 dlg's at the ftp site are described as ascii
files. GRASS v.in.dlg talks about ascii and bin dlg files. When I
issue the v.in.dlg, it just hangs.

I have been downloading the data and attempting various GRASS functions but
I get various errors (too various to remember right now). My major
question is what are the steps? and how could I learn/ read about it?
thanks

Thomas Foster email: htf1@psu.edu
Pennsylvania State University voice: 814-865-1231
Department of Anthropology fax: 814-863-1474
409 Carpenter Bldg.
University Park, PA 16802

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that helps a lot. i will try those steps. However, the dem import
that you gave was for a 1 deg DMA (1:250,000) wasn't it? How would it be
diffferent for a 7.5 min (which is in UTM's)? thanks

At 09:23 AM 7/2/97 -0500, you wrote:

In message <3.0.1.32.19970701164847.00920a50@email.psu.edu> writes:

I have tried a number of methods to import some USGS data (dem and dlg)
without success.

Here's what I've come up with for these two types of data:

Steps for importing USGS DLG files

1. Download from EROS Data Center (keep .gz suffix)
2. Unzip file using gzip -d fname
3. Divide into 80 character lines: fold fname > newfname
4. Import into GRASS: v.import
  Options:
       1
       newfname
       y UTM projection (sometimes not asked)
       n Lines, not Areas
       n Don't do multiple attribute (runs out of memory)
       n Don't snap

To convert USGS dem files to GRASS format:

1. convert ascii file to binary:
m.dmaUSGSread top=1 bottom=1201 left=1 right=1201 output=binfname
       logfile=logfname < demfname

2. Rotate binary file 90 degrees, creating dem in lat-long format
m.rot90 [-q] input=binfname output=llfname rows=1201 cols=1201
    bpc=2

3. Convert from lat-long to UTM projection and put in GRASS database
r.in.ll [-s] input=llfname output=rastfname bpc=2
       corner=corner,lat,lon dimension=1201,1201
       res=3,3 spheroid=wgs72
   The latitude and longitude of the sw corner is the first pair of
the 6-digit values in the header of the original dem file. These six
digit values are arc-seconds. Divide by 3600 to get degrees. Enter
these values in the corner= input value for r.in.ll.

Hope this helps.

Michael Hanratty Phone: (612) 627-4590
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In message <3.0.1.32.19970702155814.00927960@email.psu.edu> writes:

that helps a lot. i will try those steps. However, the dem import
that you gave was for a 1 deg DMA (1:250,000) wasn't it? How would it be
diffferent for a 7.5 min (which is in UTM's)? thanks

Yes, the steps will be different. I've not worked with the 7.5 minute dem's, so
you'll have to experiment a bit, read the g.manual entries that look relevant,
and send a few more questions to the list.

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Hello,
I recently added the p.vrml program to GRASS to generate VRML images
from GRASS files. I like to import my VRML file into a rendering
software that reads files in DXF format. Is there tool to convert
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Hello,

The easiest method of generating a raster DEM is to use
s.surf.idw. Make sure that your ASCII file is in your
site_lists directory and in the
correct format:

name|filename
desc|your id notes
easting|northing|elevation

You can also generate a raster map of DEM data using s.surf.tps or
s.surf.2d, depending on your version of GRASS. This is trickier
and will require a fair bit of playing around, but yields a better
(more true to your data) product.

I assume that these DEM's can be used as input to r.watershed, but
have never tried this.

Good luck.

Sheilah

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Hi,

I have raw elevation data which is in ACSII format:
easting northing elevation

Which command would be appripriate to tansfer this file to grass accepted
raster data format ? so that I could generate a gridded DEM and derive a
driange network using related grass command, such as r.watershed.

Thanks in advances,

Vincent

Vincent Tao
The University of Calgary
tao@arc.ab.ca

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Oh, Sorry I forget to mention the source of the paper:
It is:

ftp://moon.cecer.army.mil/pub/grass/outgoing/OGI/documents/grass.dbms.Z

The title is: GRASS-to-DBMS Interfacing, A survey of Current Research
Efforts with Recommendations for Future GRASS Enhancements.
Prepared by: Kirk E. Pennywitt, Peggy J. Barrett, Margaret M. Ray

Peizhong

On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, J. HOLLENBECK wrote:

Peizhong-

I am just curious about the paper you mentioned (GRASS and
DBMS interfacing) on the GRASS-user newsgroup. Do you recall what the
address (url) was? I too am interested in using a RDBMS (Postgres) and
GRASS. Perhaps the paper will be of help. Thanks for your attention.

Jeff Hollenbeck

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Hi, I find a paper: "GRASS-to-DBMS Interfacing" written by Kirk E.
Pennywitt, in GRASS website.

I am wondering if I can get more materials concerning this project?
Especially on linking GRASS with some Database system such as Sybase or
Oracle?

Thanks

Peizhong Wu
Department of Atmospheric, Oceanic and Space Science
University of Michigan

If you are interested, I am currently working on linking Grass to the
new Postgres v6.1 Database. Right now our focus is on the ability to
query sites for attributes and to do SQL queries on the model. This
is based on clicking points on a map. Postgres is a easy dbase to
provide support for. It has lots of documentation and is quite easy
to implement..

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At 4:42 pm -0400 7/9/97, Richard Nairn wrote:

If you are interested, I am currently working on linking Grass to the
new Postgres v6.1 Database. Right now our focus is on the ability to
query sites for attributes and to do SQL queries on the model. This
is based on clicking points on a map. Postgres is a easy dbase to
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Can you make the fruits of your work generally available to the grass user
community? I would dearly love to link my grass with my postgresql.

Doug

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J. Douglas Dunlop wrote:

At 4:42 pm -0400 7/9/97, Richard Nairn wrote:

>If you are interested, I am currently working on linking Grass to the
>new Postgres v6.1 Database. Right now our focus is on the ability to
>query sites for attributes and to do SQL queries on the model. This
>is based on clicking points on a map. Postgres is a easy dbase to
>provide support for. It has lots of documentation and is quite easy
>to implement..

Can you make the fruits of your work generally available to the grass user
community? I would dearly love to link my grass with my postgresql.

Doug

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So would I.
tia,
nicolas boretos

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At 4:42 pm -0400 7/9/97, Richard Nairn wrote:

>If you are interested, I am currently working on linking Grass to the
>new Postgres v6.1 Database. Right now our focus is on the ability to
>query sites for attributes and to do SQL queries on the model. This
>is based on clicking points on a map. Postgres is a easy dbase to
>provide support for. It has lots of documentation and is quite easy
>to implement..

Can you make the fruits of your work generally available to the grass user
community? I would dearly love to link my grass with my postgresql.

Doug

Ok, I will see what sort of things I can put together. While the
progams themselves are sort of special to out application, I will try
and either generalize it or document as much of it as probable The
main program that I have been working on was a program to click on a
point in the map and search the database for close points, return the
closest points and to display the attributes associated with the
site. The sites are drill holes in my instance and can have 42
attributes to them.. I have provided a somewhat pretty output but it
is very basic.

It is also some of my first work in C, so it is probably not the best
coding in the world... I will keep you guys posted. While I am doing
it, any suggestions on what sort of applications you would like to use
it with? I am open to suggestions...

--
Richard Nairn |
Calgary, AB, Canada | "So many idiots,
email --> nairnr@cadvision.com | So few Comets..."
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At 11:41 6.2.1997 -0300, you wrote:

I'm trying to run s.surf.tps under Linux. I'm using Andreas Holz's
compilation.

When I run s.surf.tps and fill in with requested information (in this
case a site file with 150 thousand records extracted from a digitized
topographic map and the default parameters) I get the message:

>Floating point exception (core dumped)

Hello GRASS users,

I fixed this problem for s.surf.tps under Linux. Sometimes the same error
appears with the message that only 3 points are within a given region.
The bug was in user1.c in missed declaration of atof() function.
The executable of s.surf.tps is available under request.

With regards,

Jaro

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Dear Grass Users

Let me ask you help me.
I tried to install Grass 4.1.5 for linux typing install.sh following the
readme_4.1.5 file in
ftp://129.229.103.1/pub/grass/grass4.1/release/binary/linux.
But a message that unexpected end of file appeared. Do I have to modify the
install.sh file?

All files were downloaded by windows95 to the msdos partition. And I am
using Slackware 3.0.

Please give me your advise.

Kazunori Inoue
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Hi there,

Can anyone tell me where I can obtain a version
of s.rstats that will run with Linux?

Thanks very much.

Sheilah

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Hey folks!
I hope this is an appropriate forum for newbie questions, if not could
you please redirect me?
I've installed grass4.1.5 on a i386 Linux2.0.0 system, and have aquired
the spearfish data set. When I start grass, everything seems ok. The
first thing I tried after startup was demo.sh .

It said I need to call d.mon and setup graphic output. d.mon starts up
and I type list for available output and I get x0-x6 and CELL, but when
I select any of these it says I haven't started them up. Do I need to
play with XDRIVER, or is there some other answer?

Thanks for the consideration and time,
Randy Cone

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I hope this is an appropriate forum for newbie questions, if not could
you please redirect me?

yup.

Have you checked the permissions of your locks directory
($GISBASE/locks, I think) and the contents thereof.

when you type "d.mon x0", what happens? Does a window actually
appear? Is there an error message in the shell?
If there is an error message about locks, then there is a filename
mentioned. Play with that.
If there is an error message about not being able to allocate a
colormap, then you are using a hicolor or truecolor display (16bpp or
24bpp) and you need to get XDRIVER24, which is in the patch file, and
use that in a monitor in $GISBASE/etc/monitorcap.

If there were no messages, then try displaying something without
using demo.sh
"g.list rast" will give you a list of raster files - pick one.
"d.rast" will show a raster file. If nothing happens, try
"g.region rast=ARasterFile ; d.erase ; d.rast ARasterFile "
"d.where" will return a point from a mouse click. This will also do
to test the monitor.

If these return error messages about no monitor selected, that's
probably permissions.

If you need more help, drop the list another message.

Angus Carr.

I've installed grass4.1.5 on a i386 Linux2.0.0 system, and have aquired
the spearfish data set. When I start grass, everything seems ok. The
first thing I tried after startup was demo.sh .

It said I need to call d.mon and setup graphic output. d.mon starts up
and I type list for available output and I get x0-x6 and CELL, but when
I select any of these it says I haven't started them up. Do I need to
play with XDRIVER, or is there some other answer?

Thanks for the consideration and time,
Randy Cone

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Hello Grassusers:

I have a mapgen question. I am creating a map and am tyring to pull in the
labels from the dig_cats file. I am running make.label and after entering
the names of the files I get the error message " ERROR: sites_geo file empty.

What causes the program to generate this error. I have ran v.support on the
file again. It does have a 0:no data entry. I don't know what else to try.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kathy Burroughs
kathy@nrcsga.ga.nrcs.usda.gov

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I would like to install XDRIVER24 on my system. However in gmaking i get
a number of 'undefined reference' errors from my OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o
eg.OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o: In function `main':
OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o(.text+0x124): undefined reference to
`check_connection'
OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `get_connection'
OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o(.text+0x538): undefined reference to
`Number_of_colors'
OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o(.text+0x576): undefined reference to `Standard_color'
OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o(.text+0x5b6): undefined reference to `Color'

I do not have motif libraries and am wondering if they are required of if
I can compile it any other way.

Thanks
Jason Carey
Snow Hydrology
University of Utah

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I am having problems finding a routine that will find the points of
maximum convexity on a detailed DEM. I am using GRASS 4.1.5 running on
Linux (2.0.29).

If I run r.param.scale, it seems to calculate everything and then give
me a segmentation fault error.

If I run s.surf.tps, it ignores most of my data points saying "ignored
2768 points - outside region." However, if I use d.sites, it is clear
that my data points are in my region.

What am I doing wrong? Is there something I can fix, or is this simply
the nature of the beast?

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From - Thu Jul 24 13:11:41 1997

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At 12:04 23.7.1997 -0700, you wrote:

If I run s.surf.tps, it ignores most of my data points saying "ignored
2768 points - outside region." However, if I use d.sites, it is clear
that my data points are in my region.

As I mentioned in my previous mail to the list there is an error in s.surf.tps
distributed with binary GRASS for Linux. I wil send you a corrected version
of the programme.

Regards,

Jaro

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Hi,
I have a number of aerial photographs (30 jpg files) which I want to mosaic
together and import into GRASS.
Any comments on the best way to proceed would be welcomed.

Thanks Joe

Joe Leone
Senior Technical Officer
Western Australian Laboratory
CSIRO Wildlife & Ecology
LMB 4, PO MIDLAND WESTERN AUSTRALIA 6056
Phone +61 9 290 8108
Fax +61 9 290 8134
Email Joe.Leone@per.dwe.csiro.au

From - Thu Jul 31 09:51:33 1997

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If you are using Kang's binaries for GRASS on Linux, or for that
matter you are using most ELF Linux systems, you could get the patch
file for that. The statically compiled binary is in there. It seems
to work quite well.

Angus Carr.

I would like to install XDRIVER24 on my system. However in gmaking i get
a number of 'undefined reference' errors from my OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o
eg.OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o: In function `main':
OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o(.text+0x124): undefined reference to
`check_connection'
OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `get_connection'
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`Number_of_colors'
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OBJ.Linux/SWITCHER.o(.text+0x5b6): undefined reference to `Color'

I do not have motif libraries and am wondering if they are required of if
I can compile it any other way.

Thanks
Jason Carey
Snow Hydrology
University of Utah

From - Thu Jul 31 09:51:34 1997

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I don't have access to a list via news so I need a DIRECT RESPONSE to

aarce@fing.edu.uy

Dear Sirs:

I have digitized all contour lines from 1:50000 escale maps in autocad. I
export the files as dxf and use the program v.in.dxf in order to convert
the file to GRASS vector format. Unfortunaly the program gives me the
following messages

CONVERSION OF /imfia04/usr/aarce/dos/dwg/e22-247.dxf TO DIG FILE:
making arc: offset 1 x 624.9 y 6275.3 rad -0.2 a1 117.9 a2 116.9 1
making arc: offset 3 x 625.0 y 6275.4 rad -0.2 a1 116.9 a2 104.1 1
making arc: offset 7 x 624.9 y 6275.8 rad 0.2 a1 284.1 a2 288.5 1
making arc: offset 9 x 625.0 y 6275.8 rad 0.2 a1 288.5 a2 292.8 1
making arc: offset 11 x 625.0y 6275.8 rad 0.2 a1 292.8 a2 294.5 1
making arc: offset 13 x 625.2 y6275.5 rad -0.2 a1 114.5 a2 109.5 1
making arc: offset 16 x 625.2 y 6275.9rad 0.2 a1 289.5 a2 300.0 1
making arc: offset 20 x 625.4 y 6275.5 rad-0.2 a1 119.9 a2 118.0 1
making arc: offset 22 x 625.4 y 6275.5 rad -0.2a1 118.0 a2 103.6 1

and so on... until it finishes with:

making arc: offset 2515 x 626.7 y 6282.0 rad -0.1 a1 260.0 a2 228.6 1
making arc: offset 2523 x 626.5 y 6281.8 rad 0.2 a1 408.6 a2 431.8 1
making arc: offset 2529 x 626.5 y 6281.8 rad 0.1 a1 431.8 a2 448.5 1
making arc: offset 2534 x 626.5 y 6282.1 rad -0.2 a1 268.5 a2 238.7 1
making arc: offset 2541 x 626.5 y 6282.2 rad -0.2 a1 238.7 a2 218.9 1
making arc: offset 2546 x626.5 y 6282.2 rad -0.2 a1 218.9 a2 205.2 1
making arc: offset 2550 x 626.1 y 6282.1 rad 0.2 a1 385.2 a2 423.5 1
ERROR: G_realloc: out of memory

What can be the problem?

Doesn't supose to say convering ...% of dxf file or something similar?

The dxf file has 4MB. Is it too big?

I tried with a smaller file (360 KB) and the result was the same.

I tried, and the dxf file is able to be converted back completly to
autocad format (so I guess the file is not the problem).

Thanks, and regards

Eng. Carlos Arcelus

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Dear Grassusers

Let me ask you basic questions.

Q1:
I have just installed Grass 4.1.5 (Linux Slackware 3.0). A command d.mon
start=x0 is typed, A message that 'Graph_Set cannot open' appears. What
should I do for it?

Q2:
After I started X Window , I started up Grass. In this case the command
d.mon start=x0 could be done and a black window appeared. But this window
can not be moved by mouse. What is wrong with me?

Please give me your advises.

Kazunori Inoue

From - Thu Jul 31 09:51:35 1997

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Hi,
I am about to compile GRASS 4.1.5. I downloaded ll the s5.cpio.Z.* from
../grass4.1/release/source (16 files). The readme.5 indicates that the code
incorporates all fixes through Update 5.

GRASS 4.1 Source Code
Update 5

This directory contains a compressed cpio archive of the GRASS 4.1 source code:
src, src.alpha, src.contrib, and src.garden. The code incorporates all fixes
through Update 5.

It then indicates how to extract the file

cat s5.cpio.Z.* | zcat | (cd [destination]; cpio -icdu)

When I run this command I get the man, src, src.alpha ,src.contrib and
src.garden directoties.

I also get update.5.cpio and update.5.sh

Do I need to extract the update file or are these
files already fixed?
If so how?
The update script gives the following error.

*** ERROR ***
Unable to access /usr/local/grass/update.5.dirs.
This file should have come with Update 5.

Finally any known problems with compliling on solaris 2.5 and gcc2.7.2.2?

Thanks
Joe

Joe Leone
Western Australian Laboratory
CSIRO Wildlife & Ecology
LMB 4, PO MIDLAND WESTERN AUSTRALIA 6056
Phone +61 8 9290 8108
Fax +61 8 9290 8134
Email Joe.Leone@per.dwe.csiro.au

From - Thu Jul 31 13:46:18 1997

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Hi,
I am trying to create a mosaic of aerial photos. (Thanks to the people who
responed to my previous request for help). I went through a test process with
two photos, and all work well.

I then went back to do the other 28 photos but am running into problems with
r.in.tiff. This is what I did for the test.

I converted the jpeg file to tif using XV. The setting were best 24 -> 8, full
colour, normal size, and no compression. I then run r.in.tiff ( down loaded
from the moon - r.in.tiff.sun). d.rast displayed the photos

I then converted all the jpeg files , but when I import them with r.in.tiff I
get a black screen. There are no errors reported.

This is the output from r.in.tiff

Reading /export/home/users/joe/gis/data/wheat/airphoto/34525108.tif...TIFF
Directory at offset 0x163698
  Image Width: 1240 Image Length: 1174
  Resolution: 1200, 1200 pixels/inch
  Bits/Sample: 8
  Compression Scheme: none
  Photometric Interpretation: palette color (RGB from colormap)
  Orientation: row 0 top, col 0 lhs
  Samples/Pixel: 1
  Rows/Strip: 1174
  Planar Configuration: single image plane
  Color Map: (present)
  1 Strips:
      0: [ 8, 1455760]
1240x1174x8 image
8 bits/sample, 1 samples/pixel
256 colormapped
Creating SUPPORT Files for 34525108
done.

Can anybody ofter any help?

thanks
joe

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Hi, Joe
You've probably already done this, but I always start out by checking the
basics:
1. Is your region set to the new raster map? (g.region rast=mapname;
d.erase)
2. Do you have a MASK on?

If these criteria are ok, _and_ you really have data in your cell
directory, then you might run r.stats or r.report to assess the range of
values in the file. Good luck,
-Malcolm Williamson

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Joe Leone wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to create a mosaic of aerial photos. (Thanks to the people who
responed to my previous request for help). I went through a test process with
two photos, and all work well.

I then went back to do the other 28 photos but am running into problems with
r.in.tiff. This is what I did for the test.

I converted the jpeg file to tif using XV. The setting were best 24 -> 8, full
colour, normal size, and no compression. I then run r.in.tiff ( down loaded
from the moon - r.in.tiff.sun). d.rast displayed the photos

I then converted all the jpeg files , but when I import them with r.in.tiff I
get a black screen. There are no errors reported.

This is the output from r.in.tiff
>
Reading /export/home/users/joe/gis/data/wheat/airphoto/34525108.tif...TIFF
Directory at offset 0x163698
  Image Width: 1240 Image Length: 1174
  Resolution: 1200, 1200 pixels/inch
  Bits/Sample: 8
  Compression Scheme: none
  Photometric Interpretation: palette color (RGB from colormap)
  Orientation: row 0 top, col 0 lhs
  Samples/Pixel: 1
  Rows/Strip: 1174
  Planar Configuration: single image plane
  Color Map: (present)
  1 Strips:
      0: [ 8, 1455760]
1240x1174x8 image
8 bits/sample, 1 samples/pixel
256 colormapped
Creating SUPPORT Files for 34525108
done.
>
Can anybody ofter any help?

thanks
joe

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From: BakerWL@UWYO.EDU (William L. Baker)
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After you bring in the file with r.in.tiff, then use
g.region to set the region equal to the file. If
the file is TEST, then g.region rast=test. Then
erase the screen (d.erase), and redisplay using
d.rast.

Bill Baker
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From: grassu
To: grassu-list
Subject: r.in.tiff
Date: Thursday, July 31, 1997 5:20PM

Hi,
I am trying to create a mosaic of aerial photos. (Thanks to the people who
responed to my previous request for help). I went through a test process
with
two photos, and all work well.

I then went back to do the other 28 photos but am running into problems with

r.in.tiff. This is what I did for the test.

I converted the jpeg file to tif using XV. The setting were best 24 -> 8,
full
colour, normal size, and no compression. I then run r.in.tiff ( down loaded

from the moon - r.in.tiff.sun). d.rast displayed the photos

I then converted all the jpeg files , but when I import them with r.in.tiff
I
get a black screen. There are no errors reported.

This is the output from r.in.tiff

Reading /export/home/users/joe/gis/data/wheat/airphoto/34525108.tif...TIFF
Directory at offset 0x163698
  Image Width: 1240 Image Length: 1174
  Resolution: 1200, 1200 pixels/inch
  Bits/Sample: 8
  Compression Scheme: none
  Photometric Interpretation: palette color (RGB from colormap)
  Orientation: row 0 top, col 0 lhs
  Samples/Pixel: 1
  Rows/Strip: 1174
  Planar Configuration: single image plane
  Color Map: (present)
  1 Strips:
      0: [ 8, 1455760]
1240x1174x8 image
8 bits/sample, 1 samples/pixel
256 colormapped
Creating SUPPORT Files for 34525108
done.

Can anybody ofter any help?

thanks
joe

From - Mon Aug 04 10:08:49 1997

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Hi,
I am trying to create a mosaic of aerial photos. (Thanks to the people who
responed to my previous request for help). I went through a test process with
two photos, and all work well.

I then went back to do the other 28 photos but am running into problems with
r.in.tiff. This is what I did for the test.

I converted the jpeg file to tif using XV. The setting were best 24 -> 8, full
colour, normal size, and no compression. I then run r.in.tiff ( down loaded
from the moon - r.in.tiff.sun). d.rast displayed the photos

I then converted all the jpeg files , but when I import them with r.in.tiff I
get a black screen. There are no errors reported.

This is the output from r.in.tiff

Even though it went in right it isn't very much good until grass knows
where the file is? Are you using a coordinate system or just an x-y
system for importing pictures. You need to register and rectify the
image before it will be correct for the area you are
studying. Bringing it in straight won't do anything for you until
grass knows its earth coordinates in whatever system you are
using. Either edit the cellhd file to be correct or go through a
tutorial for registration and rectification from a x-y coordinate system.

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From - Mon Aug 04 10:08:49 1997

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Hello all, just wanted to update you on the Postgres interface that I
have written. I have it packaged up and I should upload it too moon
soon. It contains three simple programs, but it shows the methods of
accessing a database. The programs are:

SQL.select: to select the server host, database, and table to query.
SQL.where: Based loosely on d.where.* click on a point, it will query
the database for nearby sites, and print out the attributes associated
with that point. I want to work on this one further to be able to
select which attributes to print...
SQL.site: Based on an SQL query, create a site file, and/or raster
file. It will also create a new table if you wish.

They are simple but demonstrate the ability that some people were
asking about.

Comments/questions email me. I would like to see if they are useful to
anyone. The file is grass-sql.tar.gz It should be there by monday...

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From - Tue Aug 05 09:10:37 1997

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Dear Grass Users
I want to use USGS DEM 30 second data in Grass 4.1.5 for Linux I have not
found a command to import it. If it can be converted to ascii file I think
it can be imported to Grass. As you know a USGS DEM 30 second file covers a
very vast area, so that I would like to import a part of one DEM file
In this case, I think a binary file (for example w100n40.dem) has to be
converted to ascii file and its data structure should be understood.
Please let me know what should I do for my purpose? What should I learn at
first?

Thank you

Kazunori Inoue

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I want to use USGS DEM 30 second data in Grass 4.1.5 for Linux I have not
found a command to import it. If it can be converted to ascii file I think
it can be imported to Grass. As you know a USGS DEM 30 second file covers a
very vast area, so that I would like to import a part of one DEM file
In this case, I think a binary file (for example w100n40.dem) has to be
converted to ascii file and its data structure should be understood.
Please let me know what should I do for my purpose? What should I learn at
first?

Yes, there is a way to do it. The command is called in.sdts. It reads the
SDTS format used by the USGS. It's in the contrib area for download,
I think.

One problem though, you have to recompile for Linux. I have recompiled,
but cannot get it to work. I think the FIPS library has somehow
been corrupted. I have been unsuccessful in eliciting a response
from this mailing group. The best I figure is that there is no one here
using Linux and SDTS files.

I'm just waiting for someone do compile a linux binary distribution, or
create a makefile for Linux that works.

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From - Wed Aug 06 11:06:20 1997

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I obtained the Linux ELF binaries and installed them, and when
I try to run grass, I get the error:

/usr/local/grass/etc/gis_set: can't load library 'libcurses.so.1'

Apparently, grass is looking for an obsolete libcurses. Does anyone
know what to do about this? Do I hunt down an old version of the
libcurses? Does recompiling under Redhat Linux with gcc require
extensive source code modifications? I tried linking to the libcurses
on my machine, libncurses.so.3.0, but it garbled the screen.

Thanks,

Bob Harrington

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root wrote:

I obtained the Linux ELF binaries and installed them, and when
I try to run grass, I get the error:

/usr/local/grass/etc/gis_set: can't load library 'libcurses.so.1'

Apparently, grass is looking for an obsolete libcurses. Does anyone
know what to do about this? Do I hunt down an old version of the
libcurses? Does recompiling under Redhat Linux with gcc require
extensive source code modifications? I tried linking to the libcurses
on my machine, libncurses.so.3.0, but it garbled the screen.

Thanks,

Bob Harrington

Bob,

I had this problem a couple of months ago. What you need to do is
download the libcurses.so.1 from the moon.cecer outgoing file (i.e. the
GRASS ftp site).

Other people have reported no problem using ncurses, but I have used the
libcurses.so.1 from the moon cecer site, and it seems to work fine, as
do the rest of my linux programs

Evan
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Hello,

Has there been an updated version of ps.map which allows more than one
raster file to be included in the output Postscript map?

Thanks

-Stephen Dzurenko
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I am currently attempting to integrate GRASS routines (shell scripts)
into an existing GIS project that I am developing. I am currently having
problems, however, with the GRASS graphics monitors.

It seems, when the host program (written in C, it uses system() to make
calls to the GRASS scripts...I do it this way to prevent having to
recompile the GRASS code) locks up, sometimes it locks whatever
resources the monitors use (my guess are the fifos) and after this
happens, no matter *what* I do (aside from a shutdown), I cannot get
those GRASSs monitors unlocked or killed. Sometimes using "killall -9
ftcXDRIVER" will work, but then sometimes it won't. This same issue
holds true for d.mon/mon.status programs. This problem persists across
sessions, and removing stale lock files doesn't seem to help.

A reboot fixes the problem, however what *causes* it in the first place?
Is it fixable? Is there a way to fix it WITHOUT having to down the
machine that GRASS resides on?

- Thanks for the time. Sorry I had so many questions.

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Hello,
Can some one please tell me how I can generate a rate map in GRASS. I
have
a map with 3 categories (1,2,3) and I would like to generate raster
layers
showing how many times each category value occurs in a local
neighbourhood
(for example in 7x7 neigbourhood).
thanks in advance
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Venkatesh,

Can some one please tell me how I can generate a rate map in GRASS. I
have
a map with 3 categories (1,2,3) and I would like to generate raster
layers
showing how many times each category value occurs in a local
neighbourhood
(for example in 7x7 neigbourhood).

The following unix sequence can do this:

# set map name
set MAP = cat_map
# set number of categories to do (i.e., 20 cats assumes from 1-20)
set NUMCATS = 3
# set size equal to the neighborhood desired (i.e., 7 by 7 = 7)
set SIZE = 7
@ SIZE_SQRD = $SIZE * $SIZE
# Following code will sum cells from map $MAP
set CT = 1
while ( $CT <= $NUMCATS )
    r.mapcalc temp = 'if( $MAP == $CT , $SIZE_SQRD )'
    g.remove rast=rate$MAP$CT
    r.neighbors input=temp output=rate$MAP$CT method=average size=$SIZE
    @ CT = $CT + 1
end
# for descriptions of r.mapcalc and r.neighbors, see
http://www.cecer.army.mil/grass/userman/main-alpha.html

Sincerely, chuck

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On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Steve Dzurenko wrote:

Hello,

Has there been an updated version of ps.map which allows more than one
raster file to be included in the output Postscript map?

Not that I'm aware of. You'll need to patch them together in r.patch.
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-Stephen Dzurenko
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Dear Sirs,

I am a new GRASS user using GRASS 4.1.5 running on Linux (2.0.29).
I have digitized all contour lines from 1:50000 topographic map,
and i want to caclulate the total length of them in Km.
Can you help me ?

Thank you in advance

Filippidis Evangelos ( efilippi@for.auth.gr )
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I am contacting you to ask if you received any information about a
Linux Grass CD. Please forgive me for contacting your directly.
I am also looking for ELF binaries?

Alan Davis

From - Mon Aug 11 09:07:52 1997

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In article <m0wwli7-000IRFC@electra2.netpci.com>,
Alan Eugene Davis <grassu@cecer.army.mil> wrote:

I'd appreciate advice as to whether the 4.1 binaries for linux are up
to date, or where to get them. Is there any need to try to compile?
Is it hopeless to try, for a non-programmer?

I'm interested in the answers to these questions too.

I have the linux 4.1.5 binaries that are on moon.cecer.army.mil
installed, and with the help of this list installed a compatible libcurses.
The current problem is that "d.mon start=x0" results in the error:

X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request: 78 (X_CreateColormap)
  Serial number of failed request: 78
  Current serial number in output stream: 79
Please start graphics monitor <x0>.
Error - Graphics monitor <x0> not running!
Problem selecting x0. Will try once more
Please start graphics monitor <x0>.
Error - Graphics monitor <x0> not running!

Any clues would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bob Harrington

From - Mon Aug 11 10:13:32 1997

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Hi everybody,

I would like to install GRASS on my Linux PC. But - because I am fairly
new in both things - I don't know which version of the binaries are the
preferable ones. Those on CD from Andreas Holz, or those provided by
Markus Neteler at the Institut fuer Landschaftspflege und Naturschutz,
or any other which I might not know up to now. Is there any 'common
sense' or is it just my personal decision ?

Regards,

Stephan

P.S.: My Linux is the S.u.S.E. 5.0 / Linux Kernel 2.0.30+
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On 10 Aug 1997 13:56:47 -0700, Bob Harrington wrote:

In article <m0wwli7-000IRFC@electra2.netpci.com>,

I have the linux 4.1.5 binaries that are on moon.cecer.army.mil
installed, and with the help of this list installed a compatible libcurses.
The current problem is that "d.mon start=x0" results in the error:

X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
Major opcode of failed request: 78 (X_CreateColormap)
Serial number of failed request: 78
Current serial number in output stream: 79
Please start graphics monitor <x0>.
Error - Graphics monitor <x0> not running!
Problem selecting x0. Will try once more
Please start graphics monitor <x0>.
Error - Graphics monitor <x0> not running!

Bob,

We are also running in to this problem with Grass v4.12 on our Solaris
machines. We've gotten around that problem mostly by insuring that all
consoles which run Grass run it in a graphics mode set for 256 colors.
However, this doesn't ALWAYS fix the problem...for example, I *still*
cannot get the SCO Unixware machine in the office to connect to a Grass
monitor from remote (and the SCO machine has its own X desktop).

We've had other problems with Grass X Monitors as well.

I've been told that this may also be related to the Grass shared libraries.

I'd be interested in hearing if you've been able to solve the problem if you
get more information. I'll be posting my experiences trying to debug this on
the list myself when I have more concrete information.

-----------------------------------------
Clifton Wood
cbwood@vt.edu
AGNIS Dept - ISIS Lab @ Virginia Tech
http://www.agnis.vt.edu/

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Try running in 8 bit colormode, or getting the XDRIVER24.

Jason Carey
Snow Hydrology
University of Utah

On 10 Aug 1997, Bob Harrington wrote:

In article <m0wwli7-000IRFC@electra2.netpci.com>,
Alan Eugene Davis <grassu@cecer.army.mil> wrote:

>I'd appreciate advice as to whether the 4.1 binaries for linux are up
>to date, or where to get them. Is there any need to try to compile?
>Is it hopeless to try, for a non-programmer?

I'm interested in the answers to these questions too.

I have the linux 4.1.5 binaries that are on moon.cecer.army.mil
installed, and with the help of this list installed a compatible libcurses.
The current problem is that "d.mon start=x0" results in the error:

X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request: 78 (X_CreateColormap)
  Serial number of failed request: 78
  Current serial number in output stream: 79
Please start graphics monitor <x0>.
Error - Graphics monitor <x0> not running!
Problem selecting x0. Will try once more
Please start graphics monitor <x0>.
Error - Graphics monitor <x0> not running!

Any clues would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bob Harrington

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On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Filippidis Vangelis wrote:

Dear Sirs,

I am a new GRASS user using GRASS 4.1.5 running on Linux (2.0.29).
I have digitized all contour lines from 1:50000 topographic map,
and i want to caclulate the total length of them in Km.
Can you help me ?

Thank you in advance

Filippidis Evangelos ( efilippi@for.auth.gr )
Phd Student
Dep. of Forestry and Natural Environment
Aristotelian University of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki, Greece.

I believe that you can use the program v.report to get this information.
-Malcolm Williamson

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On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Filippidis Vangelis wrote:

Dear Sirs,

I am a new GRASS user using GRASS 4.1.5 running on Linux (2.0.29).
I have digitized all contour lines from 1:50000 topographic map,
and i want to caclulate the total length of them in Km.
Can you help me ?

Thank you in advance

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I is my Understanding that Andreas Holz distribution is the closest to
the developer that you can get. Dr Hinthorne who was one of the
primary authors of the grass package seems to endorse Mr. Holz
distribution. Good Luck in your choice, my choice was with Holz's
distribution and I have had limited problems although some things are
not included such as the postgres database interface -- but one can add
that later, or compile it ones self.

From - Tue Aug 12 09:25:52 1997

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Hello, everyone:

I am trying to generate a raster file out of DEM, which shows the slope form as
concave, convex. r.slope.aspect works only for a slope map (percentage or
degree) and/or an aspect map. I could not find any program which can produce
slope form (curvature). Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Houxiang Wang

Miami University, Ohio

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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:35:27 +0000 (GMT), grass@genie.saff.utah.edu wrote:

Try running in 8 bit colormode, or getting the XDRIVER24.

Jason Carey
Snow Hydrology
University of Utah

Jason,

Where can XDRIVER24 be found? Moon?

-----------------------------------------
Clifton Wood
cbwood@vt.edu
AGNIS Dept - ISIS Lab @ Virginia Tech
http://www.agnis.vt.edu/

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Hello dear GRASS users!

I'm a new GRASS (under Linux) user and have 2 problems :

First of all, I'm using GRASS but not only GRASS... which
means I'd like to be able to use my datas under various softwares.
So, I'm using the different GRASS progs to import/export data.

My first problem is that r.out.tga is producing huge files (24 bits
images)
although one uses only 8 bits images with GRASS... Is there another
raster
export prog which can produce 8 bits images (e.g. r.out.gif)?

My second problem is less obvious : I've scanned a map in 15 images.
Before digitizing it (with another software), I've i.rectified each of
them
(i.rectify2, 3rd order, at least 30 GCP's per image). When I try to
put the 15 rectified images together (after an r.out.tga) in any
software
(I'm now using CorelXARA under Windows) there are some distorsions, but
if
I first r.patch those and then r.out.tga the result, it fits perfectly!
I thought the images produced by i.rectify2 were... rectified!!!
You could say : "never mind, use r.patch!". Yes, except that it would
produce a file my poor Pentium 133, 64 MB of RAM and 4GB of HDD wouldn't
dare
to just look at it!

Thanks by advance

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Try s.surf.tps or s.surf.2d.

Sheilah Nolan
Alberta Agriculture
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

Hello, everyone:

I am trying to generate a raster file out of DEM, which shows the slope form as
concave, convex. r.slope.aspect works only for a slope map (percentage or
degree) and/or an aspect map. I could not find any program which can produce
slope form (curvature). Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Houxiang Wang

Miami University, Ohio

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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:35:27 +0000 (GMT), grass@genie.saff.utah.edu wrote:

>Try running in 8 bit colormode, or getting the XDRIVER24.
>
>Jason Carey
>Snow Hydrology
>University of Utah

Jason,

Where can XDRIVER24 be found? Moon?

Yes, it is at moon. It requires a little work to compile it in
(moving directories and editing your monitorcap). Then you won't get
the error. It is fairly easy to do... It solves the problem of
running out of colors but grass still doesn't have the best support
for 24bit displays.. I don't know - does anyone know if some of the
display commands have been changed to use more then 24 bit? It would
really come in handy for sattelite imagery.

Anyway give it a go...

--
Richard Nairn |
Calgary, AB, Canada | "So many idiots,
email --> nairnr@cadvision.com | So few Comets..."
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We are importing data from Arc/Info and things seem to be going rather
well. Our input files basically contain data for districts such as male
population, female population etc. We were able to get v.in.arc to create
a vector file but we could only specify one attribute. Is there a way to
create a vector file with all the attributes in the single file? We tried
using v.patch but obtained pnt_to_area errors when we ran v.support.

What we would like to be able to do is to find out, (for example), how
many males and how many females are in a particular district using a
single command as opposed to doing two separate queries (eg. running
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Any help or information would be greatly appreciated.

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On Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:03:26 -0600 (MDT), Richard Nairn wrote:

Yes, it is at moon. It requires a little work to compile it in
(moving directories and editing your monitorcap). Then you won't get
the error. It is fairly easy to do... It solves the problem of
running out of colors but grass still doesn't have the best support
for 24bit displays.. I don't know - does anyone know if some of the
display commands have been changed to use more then 24 bit? It would
really come in handy for sattelite imagery.

Anyway give it a go...

True. As far as I can see, a big problem is color matching between the
standard drawing programs (d.graph, d.labels) and rastar maps. What Grass
really needs is a way to ADD to the standard color table (a d.colors
extension, maybe?). I've found the color table in the source code, but
haven't gotten the go ahead to recompile here.

We'll see how things go in the coming weeks.

Thanks, Jason.

-----------------------------------------
Clifton Wood
cbwood@vt.edu
AGNIS Dept - ISIS Lab @ Virginia Tech
http://www.agnis.vt.edu/

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Try s.surf.tps or s.surf.2d.

Sheilah Nolan
Alberta Agriculture
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

Thanks for your help, Sheilah. But s.surf.tps works with site files, not raster
files like DEM. I don't have contour lines data. Instead, I have the DEM.

Thanks in advance for any further helps.

Houxiang Wang

Miami University

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On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Houxiang Wang GEO Grad 96 wrote:

> Try s.surf.tps or s.surf.2d.

> Sheilah Nolan
> Alberta Agriculture
> Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

Thanks for your help, Sheilah. But s.surf.tps works with site files, not raster
files like DEM. I don't have contour lines data. Instead, I have the DEM.

Thanks in advance for any further helps.

No problem!
Make a sites file from your raster file:
r.stats -1zg input=raster_filename | s.in.ascii sites=new_sitelist_name
-Malcolm Williamson

Houxiang Wang

Miami University

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No problem!
Make a sites file from your raster file:
r.stats -1zg input=raster_filename | s.in.ascii sites=new_sitelist_name
-Malcolm Williamson

Thank you.

I have tried using the DEM to get a site file. I used r.contour and v.to.site.
The v.to.site worked several hours and finally crashed the computer---it
requires too much disk space.

Now I will try the r.stats. thanks again.

Houxiang Wang

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Hi,
I have been trying to create a mosaic from aerial photo. I have managed to get
the photos into GRASS and rectified them using the imagery commands. (Thanks to
help from the list!)

When I use d.rast -o "filename" for each of the images they display correctly (
In the correct geographic position with some overlap).

Now I am trying to create one GRASS raster file using r.patch.
If I use the command "r.patch input=009,007,005 output=patched",
005 displays correctly. ie I can see roads, and other features. However, 009 and
007 are in the coorect positions but the pixels are jumbled - I can not
distinguish features.

Things I have tried.
run r.support on 009 007 etc

r.resample before r.patch using the default region

specified both the default region and the minimum regions in i.rectify2
r.mapcalc "newmap= if(009,009,007)" - In this case none of the features are
recognisable.

It is something to do with the fact that some photos are "darker" than others?

Any suggestion ?
Thanks
Joe

Joe Leone
Western Australian Laboratory
CSIRO Wildlife & Ecology
LMB 4, PO MIDLAND WESTERN AUSTRALIA 6056
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On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Simon Cox wrote:

Joe - r.patch messes with the color table in an
attempt to maintain the appearance of the output.
It treats the raster's as category maps, rather than
continuous fields, so pixels with similar values do
*not* get assigned similar colors.
However, since the GRASS display colour-space is
restricted to 216 colours, this usually fails for
rasters with a large number of categories, such as images.

Images are a particular problem, of course, since adjacent
scenes frequently have different average levels, so features
which any intelligent observer would interpret as continuous
across the join will be really messed up. Mosaicing
remote-sending images successfully is a long-standing
problem. If you intend to do quantitative analysis you
more-or-less have to do it one frame at a time.

If you just want somthing that looks OK, than try manipulating
the color look-up-table, either manually by editing

gisdbase/location_name/mapset/cell/colr/map

or by using r.colors
(NB d.colors only changes the display so
does not persist between sessions).

Let me expand on the above statement - d.colors _does_ permanently affect
your colortable _if_ you use the "save color table" (the "c" key) option.
I've been using it for years to edit my color table.
-Malcolm Williamson

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At 10:46 AM 8/15/97 +0800, you wrote:

Hi,
I have been trying to create a mosaic from aerial photo. I have managed to

get

the photos into GRASS and rectified them using the imagery commands.

(Thanks to

help from the list!)

Joe Leone
Western Australian Laboratory
CSIRO Wildlife & Ecology
LMB 4, PO MIDLAND WESTERN AUSTRALIA 6056
Phone +61 8 9290 8108
Fax +61 8 9290 8134
Email Joe.Leone@per.dwe.csiro.au

I've had reasonable success in patching aerial photos by using the color
table from one of the photos as the color table for the patched map. Just
re-name the table in the colr directory.

Jim Schmidt
avenues@sonnet.com

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No problem!
Make a sites file from your raster file:
r.stats -1zg input=raster_filename | s.in.ascii sites=new_sitelist_name
-Malcolm Williamson

Hi, I tried the above program, but only got a empty site file. What is the
problem?

Thanks.

Houxiang Wang

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Joe - r.patch messes with the color table in an
attempt to maintain the appearance of the output.
It treats the raster's as category maps, rather than
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However, since the GRASS display colour-space is
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Images are a particular problem, of course, since adjacent
scenes frequently have different average levels, so features
which any intelligent observer would interpret as continuous
across the join will be really messed up. Mosaicing
remote-sending images successfully is a long-standing
problem. If you intend to do quantitative analysis you
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If you just want somthing that looks OK, than try manipulating
the color look-up-table, either manually by editing

gisdbase/location_name/mapset/cell/colr/map

or by using r.colors
(NB d.colors only changes the display so
does not persist between sessions).

--
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CSIRO Exploration & Mining, PO Box 437, Nedlands, WA 6009 Australia
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G'day from down under,

Problem Statement

Need hints on what programs in GRASS to use for this task,
and a sequence of operations that would be optimal.

History

        I've wandered over a block of land with a Trimble Pro XR DGPS
        generating 6327 data points following roads, fences and other
        interesting features. The data is accurate to .75m - it was
        real-time differential corrected. The data includes elevation.
        I've installed GRASS 4.1 on a DIGITAL UNIX system and a DEC
        Ultrix system.

Task

        Plot the path of a proposed access road so as to minimise cost
        of construction and cost of maintenance. The road should be
        short enough to be cheap, and yet not so steep as to cause
        maintenance problems after the five yearly heavy-rainfall event.

        I am buying the block of land to live on, moving out in two
        years, and I'd like to take a first cut at this path before
        I involve road contracting surveyors.

Problem

        How do I get the data into GRASS? I've finally managed to get
        point data in as sites by using s.menu to import it in ASCII
        format from Trimble's Pathfinder software.

        The Trimble software has also generated for line and area
        features what it calls ASCII exports for GRASS, but I'm at a
        loss for how to import them.

I can create maps in my mapset, but how do I make them
permanent?

Looking forward to any replies. I've been listening on these two
distribution lists for about a week now.

I'm a software engineer, so I can understand most things as long as I
have the words defined. I like bicycles too. [ref grassp joke]

--
James Cameron (cameron@stl.dec.com)
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Tony-
Do you know if it's the plotter your having trouble with or is it the
software? If it is a hardware/interface let me know and I could arrange
for an HP Rep help you out. Who installed the equipment?

Let me know if there is anything else I could do for you.

AJ

From the desk of...

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From: Anthony J. Esser <aje@spock.ny.nrcs.usda.gov>
To: grassu-list@cecer.army.mil
Cc: aje@spock.ny.nrcs.usda.gov; rgp@spock.ny.nrcs.usda.gov
Subject: HP Plotter with GRASS 4.13
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 1997 7:37 AM

Hello,

I could use some help trying to get a HP Drafmaster SX Plus plotter
to work.

We are running GRASS 4.13 beta update package 4 on a Sun SPARC
Station IPX and are having a lot of trouble with the HP Draftmaaster.
Can anyone help?

Thnaks in advance
Tony
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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441 South Salina Street
5th Floor, Suite 354
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Phone: (315) 477-6536 Fax:(315) 477-6550
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From - Mon Aug 25 09:34:52 1997

From owner-grassu@isis.cecer.army.mil Tue Aug 19 19:11:26 1997

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I am contacting you to ask if you received any information about a
Linux Grass CD. Please forgive me for contacting your directly.
I am also looking for ELF binaries?

Alan Davis

Yes, I heard from the author of the CD and it sounds like his
intentions are to release the OGL3D program only on his CD and no
where else. It is understandable but unfortunate. I guess I will have
to get my boss to try and spring for the CD... There is a reference
to ordering it on the moon page, although it look a little out of date
since I don't recall seeing the 3D packages being included. I believe
there are linux binaries on moon, and they are ELF if I am not
mistaken. If not, I can probably tar up my copy and forward them to
you or moon...

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From - Mon Aug 25 09:34:52 1997

From owner-grassu@isis.cecer.army.mil Tue Aug 19 20:24:47 1997

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Sorry, I am back again.

My machine shut down, and all my former emails were lost. I still need help from
you, especially the friend who has helped me a lot by directly sending email to
my account, not to the list server. I sorry to say that I could not remember
your name nor your email address. So I post the message here, and hope you would
see it and help me out again.

With your great help I have got the sites file out of DEM. the format of data in
the file looks like
724675|4385245#259
724725|4385245#259

But when I ran s.surf.tps, it says "ERROR: zero points in the given region!" The
DEM I am using does not cover the entire region, i.e., in the DEM file, zero
values (out of the county I am working on) mean no data. Does the above problem
result from this?

I greatly appreciate your help.

Houxiang Wang

Miami University

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Houxiang,
I'm forwarding all the previous mails back to you directly. Let me know
if the last one doesn't do the trick.
-Malcolm Williamson

On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Houxiang Wang GEO
Grad 96 wrote:

Sorry, I am back again.

My machine shut down, and all my former emails were lost. I still need help from
you, especially the friend who has helped me a lot by directly sending email to
my account, not to the list server. I sorry to say that I could not remember
your name nor your email address. So I post the message here, and hope you would
see it and help me out again.

With your great help I have got the sites file out of DEM. the format of data in
the file looks like
724675|4385245#259
724725|4385245#259

But when I ran s.surf.tps, it says "ERROR: zero points in the given region!" The
DEM I am using does not cover the entire region, i.e., in the DEM file, zero
values (out of the county I am working on) mean no data. Does the above problem
result from this?

I greatly appreciate your help.

Houxiang Wang

Miami University

From - Mon Aug 25 09:34:52 1997

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GRASSHoppers:

Has anyone got a copy of the s.surf.2D.linux file referred to in the
message below?

I'd like to get a copy, but it doesn't appear to be on moon anymore ...

Bill H.

Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:48:13 -0500 (CDT)
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Hello,

I put s.surf.2d.linux in incoming directory 2 days ago. I wonder
why the file did not appear in outgoing directory. According
to the on screen message in incoming the content of upload incoming
directory should be moved to the outgoing on a daily basis.
Can someone explain this?

Jaro

Jaro,

I put the s.surf.2d.linux file in ../outgoing/Sites this morning.
Sorry that it didn't get put into this directory earlier. I have not
implemented an automatic job to do this yet. Perhaps it is time.
------------------
Paul Loechl loechl@diego.cecer.army.mil
USACERL (217)373-4519

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You might check out the contributed program r.hydro.CASC2D, described
as a "GRASS raster command to execute fully integrated distributed
hydrologic modeling". It should be available at the moon.cecer.army.mil
ftp site.
-Malcolm Williamson

On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Coralie MOUTON
wrote:

Hello,
I would like to know how to calculate runoff with Grass.
Is there a command and how to use it?
Thank you
Coralie Mouton

From - Mon Aug 25 09:34:52 1997

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You should look under /pub/grass/outgoing/Raster for the program
r.hydro.CASC2D_1.01.tar.Z

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Paul Loechl
USACERL

You might check out the contributed program r.hydro.CASC2D, described
as a "GRASS raster command to execute fully integrated distributed
hydrologic modeling". It should be available at the moon.cecer.army.mil
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-Malcolm Williamson

On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Coralie MOUTON
wrote:

> Hello,
> I would like to know how to calculate runoff with Grass.
> Is there a command and how to use it?
> Thank you
> Coralie Mouton
>

From - Mon Aug 25 09:34:51 1997

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Hello,
I would like to know how to calculate runoff with Grass.
Is there a command and how to use it?
Thank you
Coralie Mouton

From - Mon Aug 25 09:34:52 1997

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James:

Problem

       How do I get the data into GRASS? I've finally managed to get
       point data in as sites by using s.menu to import it in ASCII
       format from Trimble's Pathfinder software.

       The Trimble software has also generated for line and area
       features what it calls ASCII exports for GRASS, but I'm at a
       loss for how to import them.

       I can create maps in my mapset, but how do I make them
       permanent?

We also use a Trimble GPS in our work, except lately we have been
using it to identify porcupine feeding damage locations! A slight different
from your application. The Pathfinder Pro Software will directly export an
ascii vector file in GRASS format. In GRASS, just simple use the v.in.ascii
command and you are away. It is that easy. Happy plotting.

Shawn Francis, M.Sc.
Forest Ecologist

Applied Ecosystem Management
100-114 Galena Road
Whitehorse, Yukon Y1A 2W6
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Coralie,

I'm sure that M.W. & P.L are trying to help you out, but
the referenced code is FAR from ready to use. I've been
working with it for nearly a year and I'm still trying to
work out the bugs. The authors of this code were not
programmers, just PhD students. So, what you're getting is
some "apl-hacked-into-FORTRAN-hacked-into-C"
"good-enough-for-who-its-for" code by civil engineering students
learning C. There are countless rookie coding errors that show
up if you use an ANSI C compiler on the source. If you're going
to use a rigorous C compiler, expect to redeclare all the functions,
(they're currently written in K&R style definitions.) A significant
portion of the code is in the "main ()" function (I'm talking 1700
lines), violating first semester programming style guides of breaking
any solution into small, managable functions. I could go on and
on. If you are not a C programmer, you may want to consider
alternatives.

Data development is a challenge as well. Expect to commit a
great deal of time to establishing the data necessary to support
this numerical model. This will be true of any GIS based model.
This is one of the "big-ticket" items that people forget to talk
about. The amount of time necessary develop the GIS that will
support a model is not trivial. And, the larger the area, typically,
the more complex the database. Of course, this assumes the source
data you will need is available. Some investigation here is well
worth the effort, regardless of the model choice you make.

Algorithmically, the model performs (qualified) OK. There are
a few disturbing comments in the code. My favorite,
"/* why 14.9? It works. */ troubles me. This suggests
an empirical approach to solving some of the numerical equations.
You might expect to find some volume loss in a diffusive wave
solution, as is used here. My experiments show that the losses
can be as large as 7%. I don't know what your requirements are,
this may be an acceptable error.

I expected much more from a numerical hydrologic model located at
the "moon" site. By the time I developed these opinions, I felt I
had too much time and effort committed to my project to start
over, so I'm working through the stuff the authors didn't get
around to dealing with.

Good luck in your endeavor,
Scott O'Donnell
--

Paul Loechl wrote:

You should look under /pub/grass/outgoing/Raster for the program
r.hydro.CASC2D_1.01.tar.Z

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On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Scott O'Donnell wrote:

(deletia)

I expected much more from a numerical hydrologic model located at
the "moon" site. By the time I developed these opinions, I felt I
had too much time and effort committed to my project to start
over, so I'm working through the stuff the authors didn't get
around to dealing with.

That's probably why it's in the contributed code, not the main or alpha
release! Seriously, I think your experiences are an example to other GRASS
users of why _any_ GIS algorithms should always be questioned,
particularly in free software that doesn't have any kind of official
support mechanism. It's the old adage, "You get what you pay for", at
least most of the time.
-Malcolm Williamson

Good luck in your endeavor,
Scott O'Donnell
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Paul Loechl wrote:
>
> You should look under /pub/grass/outgoing/Raster for the program
> r.hydro.CASC2D_1.01.tar.Z
>
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> Paul Loechl
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At 14:32 19.8.1997 -0400, you wrote:

With your great help I have got the sites file out of DEM. the format of

data in

the file looks like
724675|4385245#259
724725|4385245#259

But when I ran s.surf.tps, it says "ERROR: zero points in the given

region!" The

Houxiang,

The correct format is:

724675|4385245|#259

Regards,

Jaro Hofierka

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Hello,

I could use some help trying to get a HP Drafmaster SX Plus plotter
to work.

We are running GRASS 4.13 beta update package 4 on a Sun SPARC
Station IPX and are having a lot of trouble with the HP Draftmaaster.
Can anyone help?

Thnaks in advance
Tony
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Hi everybody,

I can´t setup my Digitiser going under Grass. I deja read all manpages and

grassu mailings but it still doesn´t work. Perhaps someone can help me.

My settings:

I am using Grass4.1(A.Holz CD).
My platform is Suse Linux 4.4.
The Digitiser is a Calcomp Drawing Board III (Din A2(24*18''); Modell

Nr.:34240) with 16 button-mice.

The board is connected to ttyS1(com2).
Under Linux I can use it as a Microsoft Mouse.
When I´m running the calcomp-digitizer diagnostics I get the following

message:

#######Now opening digitizer on /dev/ttyS1

####### CALCOMP DIGITIZER

####### X Y Key # reads: good bad none

Nread

#######Place cursor on tablet. BUFFER: ''

Then nothing happens until I press some mousebuttons:

#######HOLD: We are out of sync with the digitizer.
####### Trying to recover
.... and so on.

When I choose the calcomp digitizer in v.digit the program quit after

writing the ´plus´file.

Following some advice from a mail in grassu [grassu/2116.html],
I set the board up as follows:

Bank A: 110001001101011101

Mode: run 11
Increment: none 00
Prompt: off 0
data rate: 40 pps 100 (though this may be emulation specific)
resolution: 1000 lpi 110
emulation: Hi Res binary 23 10111
Line feed: none 0
databits: 8 1

Bank B: 001100000000000001

Baud rate: 9600 001
parity: none 100
pen drive: low 0
commands: use 0
ESC: no 0
click: no 0
pressure: off 0
height: off 0
tilt: off,off 00
mouse: no 0
proximity high 0
CTS enable on 1

Thanks for every help.

Christian

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I recieved a dlg file that I v.in.dlg and then try to display as a
vector file. Everything seems to run, however nothing displays and my
selected information is all zeros:
Selected information from dig header
Organization: ESRI DLG DATA - CHARACTER
Map Name:
Source Date: 1997
Orig. Scale: 0

North: 0
South: 0
East: 0
West: 0

I think the head of the file needs adjusting, it came from arcinfo. can
someone show me the fields that need to be filled and what they mean?

ESRI DLG DATA - CHARACTER FORMAT - 05-08-92 VERSION
                                         1997 0

     3 1 12 2 0.10000000000D+01 4 0 4 1 0 0
   0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00
   0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00
   0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00
   0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00
   0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00 0.000000000000000D+00
0.78570000000D-02 0.00000000000D+00 0.39944000000D+06 0.44828980000D+07
SW 0.000000 0.000000 0.00 0.00
NW 0.000000 0.000000 0.00 0.00
NE 0.000000 0.000000 0.00 0.00
SE 0.000000 0.000000 0.00 0.00
JASON_LU 0 190 190 010 114 114 010 302 302 1

Secondly, where can I get d.vect.dlg. I'm running Linux2.0.30 if
someone has binaries.
Thank You,

Jason Carey
Snow Hydrology
University of Utah

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From: Alastair Duncan <100074.213@compuserve.com>
To: grassu-list <grassu-list@isis.cecer.army.mil>
Subject: Expanding GRASS - Questions
Date: Friday, May 09, 1997 8:08 AM

Hello,

I've been using the GRASS GIS for a number of years now and have been

constantly

amazed, and amazed other people, that such a great bit of software is

available

for free. However, I'm beginning to reach the edges of GRASS's

capabilities as

my managers are asking me to convert the R&D work I've done with GRASS

into

fully functional systems that can be used by a number of people in my

office. I

realise that GRASS was designed to be used a research tool rather than a
corporate GIS like Arc/Info, however I was wondering if and how anybody

has

compiled GRASS to run over a network where you can:
- Have multiple users using the same GRASS binaries?
- Have a user running multiple GRASS sessions at the same time

and on

the same or different database?
- Allow multiple users to access the same database at the same

time

(though with read / write options controlled by the system

administrator)?

Also, I know this is an oldie but I can't remember the answer, has anyone

solved

the x-monitor problem of only being able to have one working x-monitor?

(If I

fire up two x-monitors only one displays the full colour range - the

other one

goes grey).

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Alastair Duncan,
GIS Applications Scientist,
National Centre for Environmental Data and Surveillance,
Environment Agency,
Bath, UK.

The answer to Alastair Duncan's "Expanding GRASS - Questions" is GRASS-XMI,
a software product that allows you to run GRASS through a user-friendly
X/Motif graphic user interface in the Solaris networking environment. Here
are the highlights of its most important features.

  - One installation of GRASS-XMI will support the entire organizational
network.
  - Up to six concurrent users can run GRASS-XMI on each computer on the
network.
  - No limit on the number of computers that can run the software
concurrently.
  - One user can run multiple GRASS-XMI sessions on a single CPU, or on
several machines.
  - Multiple users can access the same database at the same time.
  - GRASS-XMI is easy to learn and to use.
  - Input validation occurs before launching a GRASS program.
  - New programs have been added to handle the most tedious user interface
in programs such as r.mask and r.reclass.

Beginning on Sept. 2, 1997, users will be able to download a FREE 30 day
trial of GRASS-XMI Ver. 1.2. For more detailed information, or to download
the FREE 30 day trial, please visit GPZ Technology's web site at
http://www.gpz.com.

George Chou
GPZ Technology, Inc.

From - Mon Sep 01 09:17:41 1997

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Here is a section of FAQ from the upcoming GRASS-XMI web page
(http://www.gpz.com/grassxmi.htm). The best way to see the difference is
to try it. It is FREE for 30 days.

George Chou
GPZ Technology
_______________________________________________

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Q. Is GRASS-XMI another XGRASS for sale?
A. No, GRASS-XMI is a commercial product developed to run GRASS through
X/Motif graphic user interface.

Note: "XGRASS is a X/Motif interface that was developed for GRASS around
1992 and is available with the current release. Development and support on
this version has been discontinued by CERL. Newer versions of Motif require
a compile flag for backward compatibility and some newer versions of Motif
don't allow backward compatibility at all." -- Bill Brown,
brown@gis.uiuc.edu

Q. What are the benefits to use GRASS-XMI?
A. You can benefit from using GRASS-XMI because

1. GRASS-XMI is a commercial product with full support from GPZ Technology.

2. GRASS-XMI was compiled with the standard X/Motif libraries distributed
along with operating systems, and the compatibility is not a problem

3. GRASS-XMI supports some and will support all programs that require to be
executed in GRASS shell when the programs are invoked from the XGRASS
environment. Suggestion: Try "Mask" in the raster program group to see for
yourself.

4. GRASS-XMI is intuitive and does not introduce new concepts and
terminology to users. In the simplest cases of executing a GRASS program,
you can click on the icon button corresponding to the program group then
choose the program from the sub-menu for the group. Afterwards, a dialogue
pops up showing parameters required to execute the program. You enter the
parameters and program starts execution. In more complicated cases, we have
replaced some programs that requires many keyboard entries with more
user-friendly programs.

5. GRASS-XMI is easy to learn and to use. For new GRASS users, it
alleviates the burden of memorizing a tedious command line syntax, thus
shortening the learning curve. The average time that a new user spent to
learn the software is less than half an hour without assistance. For an
experienced user, it increases productivity by minimizing keyboard entries,
and by allowing the user to repeat a GRASS program with varying parameters
or data.

6. GRASS-XMI does an exhaustive check on the data you entered. If an error
is detected, the erroneous entry will be flagged for re-entry. In this way,
you would not have to re-enter all input because of a single wrong entry.
When an input file name is required, GRASS-XMI provides a list of the files
available, all you have to do is "point and click".

7. GRASS-XMI provides on-line help for each dialogue as well as this
general help file. There are three levels of help files. This file is the
top-level help providing general information about the software. The second
level of help can be activated from a sub-menu for each program group. Each
help file at this level has a brief description about the program group as
well as a list of programs available for that release. The third level of
help is provided in each pop-up dialogue to assist you to use the specific
program.

8. GPZ Technology provides customization on top of the general version. If
your organization requires certain functionality that is not offered by
GRASS, we can add new programs to the general version at an affordable
cost. GPZ can also help you with system integration and project
consultation.

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From: Thomas Foster <htf1@psu.edu>
To: grassu@cecer.army.mil
Subject: Re: Expanding GRASS - Questions
Date: Friday, August 29, 1997 3:55 PM

how is grass-xmi different from xgrass from cerl?

>The answer to Alastair Duncan's "Expanding GRASS - Questions" is

GRASS-XMI,

>a software product that allows you to run GRASS through a user-friendly
>X/Motif graphic user interface in the Solaris networking environment.

Here

>are the highlights of its most important features.

Thomas Foster
Penn State University
Department of Anthropology
409 Carpenter Bldg.
University Park, PA 16802
814 865 1231

From - Fri Aug 29 18:09:34 1997

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how is grass-xmi different from xgrass from cerl?

The answer to Alastair Duncan's "Expanding GRASS - Questions" is GRASS-XMI,
a software product that allows you to run GRASS through a user-friendly
X/Motif graphic user interface in the Solaris networking environment. Here
are the highlights of its most important features.

Thomas Foster
Penn State University
Department of Anthropology
409 Carpenter Bldg.
University Park, PA 16802
814 865 1231

From - Mon Sep 01 09:17:41 1997

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I'm trying to export a contour map from Grass to Autocad.

I made a contour map with r.contour, transformed the binary vector to
ascii and export to dxf with v.out.dxf. Everything works well but the
resulting polylines have elevation set to zero.

Is there any procedure to obtain a dxf file with contoured polylines
*and* their associated values of elevation?

Thanks,

  Adalberto da Silva
  Instituto Astronomico e Geofisico - USP
  Sao Paulo - Brazil
  adalbert@iag.usp.br

From - Mon Sep 01 09:17:42 1997

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Try this:
sort +3n -4 in_file > in_file.sort
join -j1 4 -j2 1 -o 1.1 .1.2 1.3 2.1 in_file.sort file2 > file.join

#in_file is a dig_att file that must be sorted for join to work
#file.join will be th new dig_att file to trick GRASS into providing
dxf files with actural polygon labels . Rename corresponding GRASS
files to match file.join

from (Tom D'Avello)

Cheers
Roland

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From: Adalberto da Silva[SMTP:adalbert@iag.usp.br]
Sent: Saturday, 30 August 1997 13:37
To: grassu@cecer.army.mil
Subject: Exporting Dxf

I'm trying to export a contour map from Grass to Autocad.

I made a contour map with r.contour, transformed the binary vector to
ascii and export to dxf with v.out.dxf. Everything works well but the
resulting polylines have elevation set to zero.

Is there any procedure to obtain a dxf file with contoured polylines
*and* their associated values of elevation?

Thanks,

  Adalberto da Silva
  Instituto Astronomico e Geofisico - USP
  Sao Paulo - Brazil
  adalbert@iag.usp.br

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On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 duncan_a@wrcplc.co.uk wrote:

From: NAME: Alistair Duncan
FUNC: GIS Group <DUNCAN_A@SATURNA1@TITAN>
To: NAME: GRASSu List <smtp%"grassu-list@moon.cecer.army.mil"@internet>,
NAME: GRASS Bug <smtp%"grassbug@zorro.cecer.army.mil"@internet>

Hello,

I'm trying to install GRASS v4.1 update 5 on a Sun Sparc 2 running SunOS 4.1.3.

It seems to install fine, apart from the X Drivers - which are vital. The
GISGEN script falls over when trying to compile the X Driver with the following
message :-

-----------------------------------------------------------

GISGEN: src/display/devices/XDRIVER ..............
..
..
..
cc -O -D_NO_PROTO -I/export/homeb/users/grass/grass4.1/src/include -c
SWITCHER.C
./includes.h: 9: Can't find include file X11/Xos.h
./includes.h: 11: Can't find include file X11/Xlib.h
./includes.h: 12: Can't find include file X11/Xutil.h

***. Error code 2.
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'OBJ/SWITCHER.o'
Current working directory
/export/homeb/users/grass/grass4.1/src/display/devices/XDRIVER/XDRIVER

***. Error code 1.
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'all'
GISGEN failure at STEP: src/display/devices/XDRIVER

----------------------------------------------------------

Does anybody know how I can solve this problem and get the X drivers working ??
One possibility is that the X11 library files Xos.h, Xlib.h and Xutil.h are
missing - has anyone got a workaround for this, or could they point me to an
ftp site that has these files??

Thanks very much in advance for any help,

Alastair Duncan

Hi, Alastair
You can use the "find" command to see if these files are really on you
machine - it may take a little while if you start from the root
directory. Something like the following:

find / -name Xos.h -print

If it returned the following:

/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xos.h

then I would make sure that my $SRC/CMD/head/sun4 file had the following
entry (assuming that you're calling your architecture "sun4"):

XINCPATH = -I/usr/openwin/share/include

Hope that this helps. Good luck,
-Malcolm

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From: NAME: Alistair Duncan
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Hello,

I'm trying to install GRASS v4.1 update 5 on a Sun Sparc 2 running SunOS 4.1.3.

It seems to install fine, apart from the X Drivers - which are vital. The
GISGEN script falls over when trying to compile the X Driver with the following
message :-

-----------------------------------------------------------

GISGEN: src/display/devices/XDRIVER ..............
..
..
..
cc -O -D_NO_PROTO -I/export/homeb/users/grass/grass4.1/src/include -c
SWITCHER.C
./includes.h: 9: Can't find include file X11/Xos.h
./includes.h: 11: Can't find include file X11/Xlib.h
./includes.h: 12: Can't find include file X11/Xutil.h

***. Error code 2.
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'OBJ/SWITCHER.o'
Current working directory
/export/homeb/users/grass/grass4.1/src/display/devices/XDRIVER/XDRIVER

***. Error code 1.
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'all'
GISGEN failure at STEP: src/display/devices/XDRIVER

----------------------------------------------------------

Does anybody know how I can solve this problem and get the X drivers working ??
One possibility is that the X11 library files Xos.h, Xlib.h and Xutil.h are
missing - has anyone got a workaround for this, or could they point me to an
ftp site that has these files??

Thanks very much in advance for any help,

Alastair Duncan

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Hello Radoslav

On Sep 8, 6:49pm, Radoslav Bonk wrote:

Subject: orthorectification,aerial photographs
>my GUESTION is: 1. Are the GRASS tools for orthorectifying an aerial
photos suficient to get a good results?
                 2. What are the steps of such an image processing?
                 3. I have compiled r.in.tiff I think I will need it for
image processing. Will I?
                 4. Where I can find a similar project or www paper with
> solving the problems of Orthorectifying the aerial photos?

Sorry I can't answer number 1 for you except to say that the i.rectify program
seemed to work fine for us. You should look at the man pages for the following
programs which are used in rectifing images:

  i.group
  i.target
  i.ortho.photo (I think this is what you want but I've never used it)
  i.points
  i.rectify
  i.rectify2

When we rectified our image, we used i.group, i.target, i.points, then
i.rectify. I think for i.ortho.photo you might need to do an i.group, i.target,
then i.ortho.photo. I'm not sure and someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

The r.in.tiff command did not work for us at all. Instead we used r.in.gif that
is found in $GIS/src.contrib/SCS/raster/r.gif/ where $GIS is the GRASS root
directory. Unfortunately, there's no man page for it but there is a usage
message when you run the program with a dummy argument, or you can run it
interactively. Note that to compile the r.in.gif command you may need to make a
minor change to the file $GIS/src.contrib/SCS/raster/r.gif/cmd/Gmakefile,
depending on how picky your linker is (ours was picky). The change is to simply
add "$(MATHLIB)" (without the quotes) to the end of line 8. It should be as
follows:

$(CC) $(LDFLAGS) -o $@ $(LIST) $(GISLIB) $(EXTRALIB) $(MATHLIB)

As for question 4, I have no idea.

I hope this helps and maybe someone else on the list who actually used
i.ortho.photo can offer more or better advice. Good luck.

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From - Fri Sep 12 09:35:55 1997

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Dear GRASSers

I am trying to build the xgrass package, but the following error
occurs:

GISBASE=/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1
SRC=/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src
CMD=/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/CMD
HEADER=irix
ARCH=irix
####################################################################
GISGEN Wed Sep 10 15:15:57 PDT 1997
GISBASE = /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1
SRC = /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src
CMD = /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/CMD
HEADER = irix
ARCH = irix

first step: src/xgrass

GISGEN: src/xgrass - Wed Sep 10 15:15:58 PDT 1997

#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass
  make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules

  rm -f /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/databases
  echo /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/data > /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/databases
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp
  tar cf - ./xhelp | (cd /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc; tar xf -)
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_personal
  echo XGRASS 4.1 > /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_personal
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_old_dbs
  echo XGRASS 4.1 > /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_old_dbs
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_text
  echo XGRASS 4.1 > /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_text
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/app-defaults
  tar cf - ./app-defaults | (cd /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc; tar xf -)
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xclip
  tar cf - ./xclip | (cd /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc; tar xf -)

GISGEN: src/xgrass/libes - Wed Sep 10 15:16:37 PDT 1997

#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes
  make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules

  /home/grass/gmake4.1 -all
#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/Xgd
  make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules

#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/Xgi
  make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules

  rm -f OBJ.irix/prop.o
  cc -cckr -O -n32 -D_NO_PROTO -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/include/X11/Xm

-I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c prop.c

"prop.c", line 70: error(1515): a value of type "void" cannot be assigned to
          an entity of type "int"
    err = XChangeProperty(display,window,property,XA_STRING,
        ^

"prop.c", line 75: warning(1116): non-void function "XgSetCommandString"
          (declared at line 57) should return a value
  }
  ^

1 error detected in the compilation of "prop.c".
*** Error code 2 (bu21)
*** Error code 1 (bu21)
GISGEN failure at STEP: src/xgrass/libes

Is there an update for prop.c, should I just insert a typecast or
where might I re-define the XChangeProperty function as a int ???

The GRASS4.1.5 itself is running - that compilation went well ....

Cheers,

Stephan

From - Mon Sep 15 09:02:29 1997

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Hi Stephan

On Sep 12, 9:35am, Stephan Eickschen wrote:

> #################################################################
> /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/Xgi
> make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules
>
> rm -f OBJ.irix/prop.o
> cc -cckr -O -n32 -D_NO_PROTO -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/include/X11/Xm
-I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c prop.c
> "prop.c", line 70: error(1515): a value of type "void" cannot be assigned

to

> an entity of type "int"
> err = XChangeProperty(display,window,property,XA_STRING,
> ^

Is there an update for prop.c, should I just insert a typecast or
where might I re-define the XChangeProperty function as a int ???

Well, it looks like XChangeProperty is declared as returning void. So
therefore, you can get rid of the assignment as well as the check on err that
follows the call, since the function doesn't return an error status. The
interesting thing about this is that I have compiled Xgrass on our SGI power
challenge with IRIX 6.2 and I never got this error. The man page for
XChangeProperty does not list a return type so it would default to int which is
probably why I didn't get the error. You must have a different version of X
than I do, my version is X11R6. Oh well, that's life.

Hope this helps.

--
Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
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From - Mon Sep 15 09:02:31 1997

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I've had good success using r.in.gif for bringing scanned aerial photos into
GRASS and using i.ortho.photo to perform the ortho corrections. To do the
corrections for relief distortion, you will need a GRASS raster elevation
map for the area. You will also need to input information on the aerial
camera characteristics (focal length and fiducial measurements). You will
then need to record the locations of the fuducial marks on the scanned
photo, register the photo to some other rectified image or map, and then
rectify it.

If you have further questions, I will try to help.

Jim Schmidt
avenues@sonnet.com

At 06:49 PM 9/8/97 +0200, you wrote:

Hi my name is Radoslav Bonk
I'm working on the project where I need to put an aerial photographs
strictly on a topographical map for solving the LANDUSE. It's a hilly
region and it gets a quite big problems even I worked in EASI/PACE.
I have no other softwares except the GRASS's tools for orthorectifying
aerial photos. I need the photos orthorectify and then try to
georeference them as sharp as possible on topographic maps.
I have no experiences with image processing in GRASS, even i did mostly
morphometric modeling and r.mapcalc modeling of soil erosion and other
geomorphological hazards.

my GUESTION is: 1. Are the GRASS tools for orthorectifying an aerial

photos suficient to get a good results?
                2. What are the steps of such an image processing?
                3. I have compiled r.in.tiff I think I will need it for
image processing. Will I?
                4. Where I can find a similar project or www paper with

   solving the problems of Orthorectifying the aerial photos?

********************************************************************
I would like to ask somebody for consulting this problems on the net.
********************************************************************

Thank you very much
Rado Bonk

*************************************************
Radoslav Bonk
Comenius University,Faculty of Natural Sciences
Department of Physical Geography and Geoecology
Mlynska Dolina 842 14,Bratislava SLOVAKIA
e-mail: bonk@nic.fns.uniba.sk
PRIVAT: Svinia 221, 082 32; tel: 091/958 187
*************************************************

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Thank you for your advice it was very clearly.
I have a small successes in my project
- have raster elevation model of desired area, even the aerial
photographs /4/ cover larger area, does it matter?
- got one aerial photograph with r.in.tiff into GRASS, just for training,
because about 0.5 cm of the photo is missing /part with fiducial marks/
- have whole camera characteristics
- have done such as i.group, i.target ...

my guestions: Is it necessary to scan whole aerial photo, isn't it?
I'm trying to do more
Rado Bonk

*************************************************
Radoslav Bonk
Comenius University,Faculty of Natural Sciences
Department of Physical Geography and Geoecology
Mlynska Dolina 842 14,Bratislava SLOVAKIA
e-mail: bonk@nic.fns.uniba.sk
PRIVAT: Svinia 221, 082 32; tel:+42/91/958 187
*************************************************

On Sun, 14 Sep 1997, Schmidt wrote:

I've had good success using r.in.gif for bringing scanned aerial photos into
GRASS and using i.ortho.photo to perform the ortho corrections. To do the
corrections for relief distortion, you will need a GRASS raster elevation
map for the area. You will also need to input information on the aerial
camera characteristics (focal length and fiducial measurements). You will
then need to record the locations of the fuducial marks on the scanned
photo, register the photo to some other rectified image or map, and then
rectify it.

If you have further questions, I will try to help.

Jim Schmidt
avenues@sonnet.com

At 06:49 PM 9/8/97 +0200, you wrote:
>>
>>Hi my name is Radoslav Bonk
>>I'm working on the project where I need to put an aerial photographs
>>strictly on a topographical map for solving the LANDUSE. It's a hilly
>>region and it gets a quite big problems even I worked in EASI/PACE.
>>I have no other softwares except the GRASS's tools for orthorectifying
>>aerial photos. I need the photos orthorectify and then try to
>>georeference them as sharp as possible on topographic maps.
>>I have no experiences with image processing in GRASS, even i did mostly
>>morphometric modeling and r.mapcalc modeling of soil erosion and other
>>geomorphological hazards.
>>
>>my GUESTION is: 1. Are the GRASS tools for orthorectifying an aerial
>photos suficient to get a good results?
> 2. What are the steps of such an image processing?
> 3. I have compiled r.in.tiff I think I will need it for
>image processing. Will I?
> 4. Where I can find a similar project or www paper with
>> solving the problems of Orthorectifying the aerial photos?
>
>********************************************************************
>I would like to ask somebody for consulting this problems on the net.
>********************************************************************

>>
>>Thank you very much
>> Rado Bonk
>>
>>*************************************************
>> Radoslav Bonk
>> Comenius University,Faculty of Natural Sciences
>> Department of Physical Geography and Geoecology
>> Mlynska Dolina 842 14,Bratislava SLOVAKIA
>> e-mail: bonk@nic.fns.uniba.sk
>> PRIVAT: Svinia 221, 082 32; tel: 091/958 187
>>*************************************************
>>
>
>
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Radoslav,
I've used i.ortho.photo many times. You must
have a single scan of enough of the photo to
include the fiducial marks, since the program
sets up a mathematical transformation from the
location of the fiducials, the control points on
the ground, and the camera characteristics.
After you generate the orthophoto, you can
trim out a smaller area if you like. Just use
d.zoom or d.rast.zoom to zoom in to the area,
then r.resample to create a new raster map
containing only the zoomed area.

You can focus your efforts on the small area
containing the raster elevation model and only
generate control points for that area, but you
still must have the whole photo to work with,
including the fiducials. If you focus on a small
area when you put in the control points, the
resulting orthophoto will be poor outside the
area of the control points. Good luck.

Bill Baker
Univ. of Wyoming

----------
From: Radoslav Bonk[SMTP:bonk@nic.fns.uniba.sk]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 1997 4:14 PM
To: grassu@cecer.army.mil
Subject: Re: orthorectification,aerial photographs

Thank you for your advice it was very clearly.
I have a small successes in my project
- have raster elevation model of desired area, even the aerial
photographs /4/ cover larger area, does it matter?
- got one aerial photograph with r.in.tiff into GRASS, just for training,
because about 0.5 cm of the photo is missing /part with fiducial marks/
- have whole camera characteristics
- have done such as i.group, i.target ...

my guestions: Is it necessary to scan whole aerial photo, isn't it?
I'm trying to do more
Rado Bonk

*************************************************
Radoslav Bonk
Comenius University,Faculty of Natural Sciences
Department of Physical Geography and Geoecology
Mlynska Dolina 842 14,Bratislava SLOVAKIA
e-mail: bonk@nic.fns.uniba.sk
PRIVAT: Svinia 221, 082 32; tel:+42/91/958 187
*************************************************

On Sun, 14 Sep 1997, Schmidt wrote:

I've had good success using r.in.gif for bringing scanned aerial photos
into
GRASS and using i.ortho.photo to perform the ortho corrections. To do the
corrections for relief distortion, you will need a GRASS raster elevation
map for the area. You will also need to input information on the aerial
camera characteristics (focal length and fiducial measurements). You will
then need to record the locations of the fuducial marks on the scanned
photo, register the photo to some other rectified image or map, and then
rectify it.

If you have further questions, I will try to help.

Jim Schmidt
avenues@sonnet.com

At 06:49 PM 9/8/97 +0200, you wrote:
>>
>>Hi my name is Radoslav Bonk
>>I'm working on the project where I need to put an aerial photographs
>>strictly on a topographical map for solving the LANDUSE. It's a hilly
>>region and it gets a quite big problems even I worked in EASI/PACE.
>>I have no other softwares except the GRASS's tools for orthorectifying
>>aerial photos. I need the photos orthorectify and then try to
>>georeference them as sharp as possible on topographic maps.
>>I have no experiences with image processing in GRASS, even i did mostly
>>morphometric modeling and r.mapcalc modeling of soil erosion and other
>>geomorphological hazards.
>>
>>my GUESTION is: 1. Are the GRASS tools for orthorectifying an aerial
>photos suficient to get a good results?
> 2. What are the steps of such an image processing?
> 3. I have compiled r.in.tiff I think I will need it for
>image processing. Will I?
> 4. Where I can find a similar project or www paper with
>> solving the problems of Orthorectifying the aerial photos?
>
>********************************************************************
>I would like to ask somebody for consulting this problems on the net.
>********************************************************************

>>
>>Thank you very much
>> Rado Bonk
>>
>>*************************************************
>> Radoslav Bonk
>> Comenius University,Faculty of Natural Sciences
>> Department of Physical Geography and Geoecology
>> Mlynska Dolina 842 14,Bratislava SLOVAKIA
>> e-mail: bonk@nic.fns.uniba.sk
>> PRIVAT: Svinia 221, 082 32; tel: 091/958 187
>>*************************************************
>>
>
>
avenues@sonnet.com

From - Mon Sep 15 17:29:17 1997

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Hello all,

after having solved the last problem (Thanks to Justin Hickey )
I thought, that everything should work, BUT:

ld32: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "MAX" -- 1st referenced by >/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/LIB.irix/libXgi.a(Help.o).

Up to now, I know, that MAX(...) is defined in color.c. How can I tell
the rest of the sources to use the definition???

I think, that the solution will be as simple as for my first question,
but.... So, please forgive me.

Cheers,

Stephan
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Hello Stephan

On Sep 15, 5:21pm, Stephan Eickschen wrote:

Subject: Problems linking XGRASS
Hello all,

I thought, that everything should work, BUT:

> ld32: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "MAX" -- 1st referenced by
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/LIB.irix/libXgi.a(Help.o).

Up to now, I know, that MAX(...) is defined in color.c. How can I tell
the rest of the sources to use the definition???

An easier way to solve this than trying to link in color.c may be to put the
following in the file $GIS/src/xgrass/libes/Xgi/Help.c near the top, after all
the #include statements:

  #ifndef MAX
  #define MAX(a, b) ((a)>(b)?(a):(b))
  #endif

This is basically the same operation that is wanted in Help.c and avoids
messing with the Gmakefile. I had the same problem and solved it this way and
things seem to work for me. It's not the most elegant solution but it is simple
and it works. Someone else on the list may have a better suggestion though. Let
me know if there are any problems with this.

Hope this helps.

--
Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
High Performance Computing Center
National Electronics and Computer Technology Center (NECTEC)
Bangkok, Thailand

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of us who do. ---Anonymous

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Hello Justin

thanks for your help! It seems, that you had all the same problems I am
currently going through some times ago - and maybe the only one,
you are the only "fountaine of knowledge"....
So, as you might guesse, I have new problems and I would like to ask you
for some help - now in direct way. I think, that I will send a summary
of it all to the list, whenever I will have solved all problems.

Now the libXbm.a is making trouble! As you might see from the output,
which I attached as "GISGEN.txt", it was compiled and build without any
(reported) error, but at linking there is something missing: the
XAllocColor. As far as I am, it is defined in /usr/include/X11/Xlib.h.
I added a #include <X11/Xlib.h> to _all_ create.c I found in
$GIS/src/xgrass/.. because the error message complained about this file,
but it did not help...
Do you have again a simple clue as the two times before???

Did you have more problems with xgrass of which I should be aware of or
which might be avoided in a simple way? Did you summarize your
"source-code-improvement"?

Sincerly,

Stephan

P.S.: I hope, that I do not bother you too much...

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GISBASE=3D/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1
SRC=3D/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src
CMD=3D/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/CMD
HEADER=3Dirix
ARCH=3Dirix
####################################################################
GISGEN Tue Sep 16 11:30:14 PDT 1997
GISBASE =3D /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1
SRC =3D /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src
CMD =3D /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/CMD
HEADER =3D irix
ARCH =3D irix

first step: src/xgrass

GISGEN: src/xgrass - Tue Sep 16 11:30:14 PDT 1997

#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass
make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules =

  rm -f /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/databases
  echo /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/data > /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/=
databases
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp
  tar cf - ./xhelp | (cd /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc; tar xf -)
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_personal
  echo XGRASS 4.1 > /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_pe=
rsonal
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_old_dbs
  echo XGRASS 4.1 > /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_ol=
d_dbs
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_text
  echo XGRASS 4.1 > /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xhelp/xgrass/intro_te=
xt
  rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/app-defaults
  tar cf - ./app-defaults | (cd /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc; tar xf -)=

rm -rf /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xclip
tar cf - ./xclip | (cd /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc; tar xf -)

GISGEN: src/xgrass/libes - Tue Sep 16 11:30:30 PDT 1997

#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes
make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules =

/home/grass/gmake4.1 -all
#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/Xgd
make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules =

#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/Xgi
make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules =

#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/Xpm
make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules =

  rm -f OBJ.irix/create.o
  cc -cckr -O -n32 -w -D_NO_PROTO -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/include/X11/Xm=
-I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c create.c
  mv create.o OBJ.irix/create.o
  /home/grass/gmake4.1 -makeparentdir /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgra=
ss/libes/LIB.irix/libXpm.a; ar ruv /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass=
/libes/LIB.irix/libXpm.a OBJ.irix/data.o OBJ.irix/create.o OBJ.irix/visua=
l.o OBJ.irix/misc.o OBJ.irix/rgb.o OBJ.irix/scan.o OBJ.irix/parse.o OBJ.i=
rix/XpmWrFFrP.o OBJ.irix/XpmRdFToP.o OBJ.irix/XpmCrPFData.o OBJ.irix/XpmC=
rDataFP.o OBJ.irix/XpmWrFFrI.o OBJ.irix/XpmRdFToI.o OBJ.irix/XpmCrIFData.=
o OBJ.irix/XpmCrDataFI.o
ar: Warning: creating /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/LIB.ir=
ix/libXpm.a

a - OBJ.irix/data.o
a - OBJ.irix/create.o
a - OBJ.irix/visual.o
a - OBJ.irix/misc.o
a - OBJ.irix/rgb.o
a - OBJ.irix/scan.o
a - OBJ.irix/parse.o
a - OBJ.irix/XpmWrFFrP.o
a - OBJ.irix/XpmRdFToP.o
a - OBJ.irix/XpmCrPFData.o
a - OBJ.irix/XpmCrDataFP.o
a - OBJ.irix/XpmWrFFrI.o
a - OBJ.irix/XpmRdFToI.o
a - OBJ.irix/XpmCrIFData.o
a - OBJ.irix/XpmCrDataFI.o

GISGEN: src/xgrass/menu - Tue Sep 16 11:30:33 PDT 1997

#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/menu
make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules =

  rm -f y.tab.h y.tab.c xc.y.tab.h grammar.c xc.grammar.c lex.c xc.lex.c
  rm -f OBJ.irix/create.o
  cc -cckr -O -n32 -w -D_NO_PROTO -I../include -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/=
include/X11/Xm -I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c =
create.c
  mv create.o OBJ.irix/create.o
  rm -f y.tab.h y.tab.c grammar.c
  yacc -d grammar.y
  mv y.tab.c grammar.c
  rm -f OBJ.irix/grammar.o
  cc -cckr -O -n32 -w -D_NO_PROTO -I../include -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/=
include/X11/Xm -I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c =
grammar.c
  mv grammar.o OBJ.irix/grammar.o
  rm -f lex.c
  lex -t lex.l > lex.c
  rm -f OBJ.irix/lex.o
  cc -cckr -O -n32 -w -D_NO_PROTO -I../include -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/=
include/X11/Xm -I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c =
lex.c
  mv lex.o OBJ.irix/lex.o
  rm -f y.tab.h
  yacc -d xc.grammar.y
  rm -f xc.grammar.c
  sed -e "s/yy/zz/g" y.tab.c | sed -e "s/YY/ZZ/g" > xc.grammar.c
  rm -f OBJ.irix/xc.grammar.o
  cc -cckr -O -n32 -w -D_NO_PROTO -I../include -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/=
include/X11/Xm -I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c =
xc.grammar.c
  mv xc.grammar.o OBJ.irix/xc.grammar.o
  rm -f xc.y.tab.h
  sed -e "s/yy/zz/g" y.tab.h | sed -e "s/YY/ZZ/g" > xc.y.tab.h
  rm -f xc.lex.c
  lex -t xc.lex.l | sed -e "s/yy/zz/g" | sed -e "s/YY/ZZ/g" | sed -e "s/zz=
wrap/yywrap/g" > xc.lex.c
  rm -f OBJ.irix/xc.lex.o
  cc -cckr -O -n32 -w -D_NO_PROTO -I../include -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/=
include/X11/Xm -I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c =
xc.lex.c
  mv xc.lex.o OBJ.irix/xc.lex.o
  cc -o /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xgrass4.1.exe -s -n32 -L/usr/lib32=
   OBJ.irix/main.o OBJ.irix/callbacks.o OBJ.irix/client.o OBJ.irix/cre=
ate.o OBJ.irix/error.o OBJ.irix/exec.o OBJ.irix/exit.o OBJ.irix/histo=
ry.o OBJ.irix/link.o OBJ.irix/xgdbset.o OBJ.irix/parse.o OBJ.irix/gra=
mmar.o OBJ.irix/lex.o OBJ.irix/strdup.o OBJ.irix/xc.main.o OBJ.irix/xc=
=2Egrammar.o OBJ.irix/xc.lex.o OBJ.irix/xc.error.o OBJ.irix/xc.parse.o=
  OBJ.irix/xc.client.o OBJ.irix/xc.modify.o OBJ.irix/xc.verify.o OBJ.i=
rix/xc.name.o OBJ.irix/xc.assign.o OBJ.irix/xc.exit.o OBJ.irix/xc.coms=
tr.o OBJ.irix/xc.require.o OBJ.irix/xc.create.o /exports/sgi/GRASS/gras=
s4.1/src/xgrass/libes/LIB.irix/libXgi.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/x=
grass/libes/LIB.irix/libXgd.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.i=
rix/libgis.a -L/usr/lib -lXm -L/usr/lib -lXt -L/usr/lib/X11 -lX11 -lPW -=
lm -ll
ld32: WARNING 110: floating-point parameters exist in the call for "sprin=
tf", a VARARG function, in object "/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/=
LIB.irix/libgis.a(ll_format.o)" without a prototype -- would result in in=
valid result. Definition can be found in object "/usr/lib32/libc.so"
  rm -f lex.c grammar.c y.tab.h
  cc -o /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xclip4.1.exe -s -n32 -L/usr/lib32 =
  OBJ.irix/xc.topmain.o OBJ.irix/xc.main.o OBJ.irix/xc.grammar.o OBJ.i=
rix/xc.lex.o OBJ.irix/xc.error.o OBJ.irix/xc.parse.o OBJ.irix/xc.clien=
t.o OBJ.irix/xc.modify.o OBJ.irix/xc.verify.o OBJ.irix/xc.name.o OBJ.=
irix/xc.assign.o OBJ.irix/xc.exit.o OBJ.irix/xc.comstr.o OBJ.irix/xc.r=
equire.o OBJ.irix/xc.create.o /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/lib=
es/LIB.irix/libXgi.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/LIB.iri=
x/libXgd.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libgis.a -L/usr=
/lib -lXm -L/usr/lib -lXt -L/usr/lib/X11 -lX11 -lPW -lm -ll
ld32: WARNING 84: /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/LIB.irix/l=
ibXgd.a is not used for resolving any symbol.
ld32: WARNING 84: /usr/lib32/libm.so is not used for resolving any symbol=
=2E
  rm -f xc.lex.c xc.grammar.c xc.y.tab.h
  rm -f /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc/xgrass-menu
  cp xgrass-menu /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/etc

GISGEN: src/xgrass/display - Tue Sep 16 11:30:49 PDT 1997

#################################################################
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/display
make -f OBJ.irix/make.rules =

  rm -f lex.c grammar.c y.tab.h
  rm -f grammar.c
  yacc -d grammar.y
  mv y.tab.c grammar.c
  rm -f OBJ.irix/grammar.o
  cc -cckr -O -n32 -w -D_NO_PROTO -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/include/X11/Xm=
-I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c grammar.c
  mv grammar.o OBJ.irix/grammar.o
  lex lex.l
  mv -f lex.yy.c lex.c
  rm -f OBJ.irix/lex.o
  cc -cckr -O -n32 -w -D_NO_PROTO -I/usr/include/X11 -I/usr/include/X11/Xm=
-I/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/include -DUSE_TERMIO -c lex.c
  mv lex.o OBJ.irix/lex.o
  cc -o /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/bin/xgdisplay -s -n32 -L/usr/lib32 O=
BJ.irix/args.o OBJ.irix/band.o OBJ.irix/barattr.o OBJ.irix/barbox.o O=
BJ.irix/barscale.o OBJ.irix/chlist.o OBJ.irix/client.o OBJ.irix/coloro=
pt.o OBJ.irix/crtecolor.o OBJ.irix/drawgrid.o OBJ.irix/exit.o OBJ.iri=
x/font.o OBJ.irix/getcat.o OBJ.irix/getdatafh.o OBJ.irix/grammar.o OB=
J.irix/grid.o OBJ.irix/gridbox.o OBJ.irix/gridgadg.o OBJ.irix/handler.=
o OBJ.irix/highlight.o OBJ.irix/layout.o OBJ.irix/labelbox.o OBJ.irix=
/legend.o OBJ.irix/lex.o OBJ.irix/linewgadg.o OBJ.irix/menubar.o OBJ.=
irix/menucb.o OBJ.irix/main.o OBJ.irix/mode.o OBJ.irix/objbutton.o OB=
J.irix/object.o OBJ.irix/popup.o OBJ.irix/qrastpl.o OBJ.irix/qrasttext=
=2Eo OBJ.irix/queryraster.o OBJ.irix/redrwarea.o OBJ.irix/ruler.o OBJ=
=2Eirix/scroll.o OBJ.irix/selpixpl.o OBJ.irix/sitegadg.o OBJ.irix/site=
icon.o OBJ.irix/stdsite.o OBJ.irix/stdsitepl.o OBJ.irix/toolbox.o OBJ=
=2Eirix/units.o OBJ.irix/upbarbox.o OBJ.irix/upgridbox.o OBJ.irix/upra=
stpl.o OBJ.irix/xwd.o /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/lib=
vect.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libdig2.a /exports/=
sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libgis.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.=
1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libdisplay.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/=
libes/LIB.irix/libXgd.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/LIB.=
irix/libXgi.a -L/usr/lib -lXm -L/usr/lib/X11 -lXext -L/usr/lib -lXt -lX1=
1 /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/LIB.irix/libXpm.a /exports=
/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libvect.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass=
4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libdig2.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LI=
B.irix/libgis.a /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libdisplay=
=2Ea -ll -lPW -lm
ld32: WARNING 84: /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libvect.=
a is not used for resolving any symbol.
ld32: WARNING 84: /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libdig2.=
a is not used for resolving any symbol.
ld32: WARNING 84: /exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/LIB.irix/libdispl=
ay.a is not used for resolving any symbol.
ld32: WARNING 110: floating-point parameters exist in the call for "sprin=
tf", a VARARG function, in object "/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/libes/=
LIB.irix/libgis.a(ll_format.o)" without a prototype -- would result in in=
valid result. Definition can be found in object "/usr/lib32/libc.so"
ld32: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "XAllocColor" -- 1st referenced by=
/exports/sgi/GRASS/grass4.1/src/xgrass/libes/LIB.irix/libXpm.a(create.o)=
=2E
ld32: INFO 60: Output file removed because of error.
*** Error code 2 (bu21)
GISGEN failure at STEP: src/xgrass/display
=1A
--------------221B50C2169C--

From - Wed Sep 17 08:42:12 1997

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Hello Stephan

On Sep 16, 3:00pm, Stephan Eickschen wrote:

Subject: XGRASS t/b/c
thanks for your help!

No problem

It seems, that you had all the same problems I am
currently going through some times ago - and maybe the only one,
you are the only "fountaine of knowledge"....
So, as you might guesse, I have new problems and I would like to ask you
for some help - now in direct way. I think, that I will send a summary
of it all to the list, whenever I will have solved all problems.

Well I don't think a summary sent to the list will be much use as most of the
people on the list have grass compiled. I thought of doing that as well but for
the reason mentioned above, decided not to. However, I have recently finished
compiling the floating point version of grass and have found many programming
errors. I plan to contact the keepers of the ftp site to see if I can submit an
updated version of the code with all the changes to replace the current
floating point code.

Now the libXbm.a is making trouble! As you might see from the output,
which I attached as "GISGEN.txt", it was compiled and build without any
(reported) error, but at linking there is something missing: the
XAllocColor. As far as I am, it is defined in /usr/include/X11/Xlib.h.
I added a #include <X11/Xlib.h> to _all_ create.c I found in
$GIS/src/xgrass/.. because the error message complained about this file,
but it did not help...
Do you have again a simple clue as the two times before???

Yep, in the file $GIS/src/xgrass/display/Gmakefile there should be a line (line
10) which looks like

LIBS = $(BOGUS) $(XGDLIB) $(XGILIB) $(XXX) $(XPMLIB) $(BOGUS) $(YYY)

Change the line to be

LIBS = $(XGDLIB) $(XGILIB) $(XPMLIB) $(XXX) $(BOGUS) $(YYY)

That should now find XAllocColor

Did you have more problems with xgrass of which I should be aware of or
which might be avoided in a simple way? Did you summarize your
"source-code-improvement"?

Yes I did but I have compiled the floating point version which I believe caused
some errors that you may not have encountered. Also, the "summary" of only the
xgrass stuff is over 1200 lines long because I included all warning and error
messages along with the fix I did for each. I'm picky when it comes to
compiling software and I like clean compiles (no warnings or errors). If you
really want the summary let me know and I'll put it on our ftp site.

Oh yes in the file $GIS/src/CMD/head/irix (I think it will be irix for you) the
XCFLAGS line should be as follows

XCFLAGS = -D_NO_PROTO -DXM_1_1_BC

The -DXM_1_1_BC flag is needed for some backward compatibility issues. Let me
know if you have any problems with this.

P.S.: I hope, that I do not bother you too much...

Not at all. I'm more than happy to help.

Talk to you later.

--
Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
High Performance Computing Center
National Electronics and Computer Technology Center (NECTEC)
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I have used i.ortho.photo on scans of aerial photos that are missing one
edge (and some of the fiducial marks) because our scanner is not quite big
enough to capture a whole 10x10 inch aerial photo. The results still seem to
be very good - at least for my purposes. I have even used the routine on
aerial photos for which I do not have a camera focal length or measurements
of the camera fiducial marks. I have substituted the measurements from
another camera. The results were not as exact but still useable. (I was
comparing aerial photos from 1944 with current photos).

Jim Schmidt

At 12:14 AM 9/15/97 +0200, you wrote:

Thank you for your advice it was very clearly.
I have a small successes in my project
- have raster elevation model of desired area, even the aerial
photographs /4/ cover larger area, does it matter?
- got one aerial photograph with r.in.tiff into GRASS, just for training,
because about 0.5 cm of the photo is missing /part with fiducial marks/
- have whole camera characteristics
- have done such as i.group, i.target ...

my guestions: Is it necessary to scan whole aerial photo, isn't it?
I'm trying to do more
Rado Bonk

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Hello Justin-

XGRASS is running! Thank you very much for your help, again!

What is - basicly - the difference between the "normal" grass and the
"floating point" version you have mentioned? I think, that I read this
words a while ago, but I can't remember anymore ...

Sincerly,

Stephan

P.S.: Besides GRASS: Did you ever had problems with software on SGI-
  systems, which - previously - ran without problems on other
  machines, e.g. on IBM / Aix? I have some programs from collegues
  from NSIDC (http://www-nsidc.colorado.edu) for processing remote
  sensing data which I have succesfully installed on an IBM RS6000
  running AIX 4.1, but on our (new) SGI / IRIX 5.3 the compilation
  / linking goes right, but the results are definatly wrong...
  It's all C code.

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Hello
trying to do more with orthorectification of aerial photographs
new problems are:
-is it necessary to run photo.init in i.ortho.photo for computing camera
initial exposure station? It would take a lot of time to find such a
information like:
                  initial Xc
                  initial Yc
                  initial Zc
                  initial omega
                  initial phi
                  initial kappa.....
All other parameters of the camera, I have.
-does it matter if my image /aerial photo/ has about 4200x3900 and DEM has
780x710 /row x column/? For computing ortho...
Thanks to all
Rado Bonk

*************************************************
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Comenius University,Faculty of Natural Sciences
Department of Physical Geography and Geoecology
Mlynska Dolina 842 14,Bratislava SLOVAKIA
e-mail: bonk@nic.fns.uniba.sk
PRIVAT: Svinia 221, 082 32; tel:+42/91/958 187
*************************************************

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Hello James,

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, James Cameron wrote:

G'day,

I've scanned most carefully a portion of a topographic map, ensuring
that each pixel matches my resolution of five metres. So my GIF file is
600 x 800 pixels, 3km by 4km.

I've been able to import it using r.in.gif and then adjust it's location
using r.support. Displaying it actually worked too, with d.rast.

Questions:

1) how do I make the display show only one portion of the area and
magnify it to show the original level of detail? Or better?
-try to do this: run d.zoom and make a borders of your desired area /by

mouse/, then run d.erase. Again run d.rast with your gif map , the
region you will see is that you done by d.zoom. Previuos region you can
call back by g.region /option 4 "set the current region by raster map"/
-try to run d.display it's GUI in GRASS /most like the like d.zoom/

2) how do I now digitise the GIF to produce a vector map of the
contours? And a site map of some of the features?
-have no experiences

Rado Bonk

--
James Cameron (cameron@stl.dec.com)
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Radoslav Bonk wrote:

Hello
trying to do more with orthorectification of aerial photographs
new problems are:
-is it necessary to run photo.init in i.ortho.photo for computing camera
initial exposure station? It would take a lot of time to find such a
information like:
                  initial Xc
                  initial Yc
                  initial Zc
                  initial omega
                  initial phi
                  initial kappa.....
All other parameters of the camera, I have.
-does it matter if my image /aerial photo/ has about 4200x3900 and DEM has
780x710 /row x column/? For computing ortho...
Thanks to all
Rado Bonk

*************************************************
Radoslav Bonk
Comenius University,Faculty of Natural Sciences
Department of Physical Geography and Geoecology
Mlynska Dolina 842 14,Bratislava SLOVAKIA
e-mail: bonk@nic.fns.uniba.sk
PRIVAT: Svinia 221, 082 32; tel:+42/91/958 187
*************************************************

From - Thu Sep 18 09:01:03 1997

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G'day,

I've scanned most carefully a portion of a topographic map, ensuring
that each pixel matches my resolution of five metres. So my GIF file is
600 x 800 pixels, 3km by 4km.

I've been able to import it using r.in.gif and then adjust it's location
using r.support. Displaying it actually worked too, with d.rast.

Questions:

1) how do I make the display show only one portion of the area and
magnify it to show the original level of detail? Or better?

2) how do I now digitise the GIF to produce a vector map of the
contours? And a site map of some of the features?

--
James Cameron (cameron@stl.dec.com)
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

From - Thu Sep 18 09:01:03 1997

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Hello Stephan

On Sep 17, 4:50pm, Stephan Eickschen wrote:

XGRASS is running! Thank you very much for your help, again!

Great! I forgot to mention that xgrass may not display the opening window
properly. So I have included info to fix it if you encounter this.

When "xgrass4.1" was first run, it didn't display the lists properly. To fix
this the file "$GIS/src/xgrass/menu/xgdbset.c" had to be changed. Lines 1637
and 1692 appear as follows:
XmNrightAttachment, XmATTACH_FORM,
XmNleftAttachment, XmATTACH_FORM,
These lines are part of the definition of the list containers that are placed
inside a form. The definitions, as they are, both describe the containers as
occupying the whole form. Therefore, one of the containers will cover up the
other. This situation is fixed by commenting out the above lines. The program
was re-compiled by simply typing "gmake4.1" in the "$GIS/src/xgrass/menu"
directory.

What is - basicly - the difference between the "normal" grass and the
"floating point" version you have mentioned? I think, that I read this
words a while ago, but I can't remember anymore ...

Basically normal grass will not use floating point values in raster maps. So if
you have elevations like 12.56 meters then you have to multiply all the values
by 100 to change them to 1256 cm. During the last days of development of Grass
at CERL, they had developed floating point code so users didn't need to do this
multiply step. Development was halted before they could commit the code to the
grass source tree. Instead it is available on moon but as I said earlier I
found several programming errors. Basically, many files are replaced,
especially in the libraries and some new files have been added.

the compilation
/ linking goes right, but the results are definatly wrong...
It's all C code.

My experience has been that if code gives different results on two different
systems, then the authors of the code have used contsructs in C that result in
undefined behaviour (eg y = x + x++;) which means that each vendor must decide
how to resolve the problem. In this case some vendors do one thing, other
vendors do other things, thus the different results.

The other possibility could be the difference in libraries, especially if there
are a lot of calls to math library functions. Unfortunately, the math libraries
are not standard between vendors (this is why you need the -lm if you link to
the math library). So if the code has calculations that depend heavily on
floating point numbers, there may be differences in rounding off errors. You
may have to print out intermediate results to see where the code is failing.

I hope this helps.

--
Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
High Performance Computing Center
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From - Thu Sep 18 17:05:58 1997

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James:
try "r.contour help"
I hope this helps
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At 08.06 18/09/97 +0000, you wrote:

G'day,

I've scanned most carefully a portion of a topographic map, ensuring
that each pixel matches my resolution of five metres. So my GIF file is
600 x 800 pixels, 3km by 4km.

I've been able to import it using r.in.gif and then adjust it's location
using r.support. Displaying it actually worked too, with d.rast.

Questions:

1) how do I make the display show only one portion of the area and
magnify it to show the original level of detail? Or better?

2) how do I now digitise the GIF to produce a vector map of the
contours?

I usually use:
   r.thin (to thins lines)
   r.line (to create a binary vector file)
   v.support (to build the dig_plus file)
   v.digit (to label contour lines).
   If you have only contours on your GIF map, that's all you have to do, but
if you have other features you have to reclass (whit v.reclass) the
vector map saving only the labbelled contours
   in a new file.
   Hoping this helps you.
   Aldo Clerici
   Dip. Scienze della Terra
   Universita' di Parma
   Italy

And a site map of some of the features?

--
James Cameron (cameron@stl.dec.com)
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

From - Mon Sep 22 08:57:27 1997

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hello GRASSers,

I want to determine the temporary flooded area of a river (meadow). Based on
a streamchannel layer generated by r.watershed from a DEM I want to seperate
regions, whose elevations are a defined ammount higher than the raster cells
of the streamchannel layer.
Is it principal possible to do this with r.mapcalc or is there a more simple
way to solve my problem...

thanks for enlightenment
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Hello GRASS Freaks!

I am new with grass
and would like to try it

I have downloaded the linux binary but it did not work on my system
because of some library
incompatibility

So I tried this one:

I just installed the Source 4.1.5 on my linux box (Redhat 4.2
Distribution for Intel)

And tried to compile it myself.

I got some warnings with libm
and following fatal error:

OBJ.linux/main.o: In function `yyerror':
OBJ.linux/main.o(.text+0x9c): undefined reference to `yylineno'
make: *** [/mnt/daten/local/grass/etc/bin/main/cmd/r.binfer] Error 1
GISGEN failure at STEP: src/raster/r.binfer

Any Idea?

By the way, Is there a rule to do a "make clean" ?

Thank you,

Peter Kuppelwieser.

my head file is:

CC = cc
ARCH = linux

GISBASE = /mnt/daten/local/grass
UNIX_BIN = /usr/local/bin

DEFAULT_DATABASE = /usr/local/gisbase
DEFAULT_LOCATION =

COMPILE_FLAGS = -O -m486
LDFLAGS = -s

XCFLAGS = -D_NO_PROTO
XLDFLAGS =
XINCPATH =
XMINCPATH =
XLIBPATH = -L/usr/X11R6/lib
XTLIBPATH = -L/usr/lib
XMLIBPATH = -L/usr/lib
XLIB = -lX11
XTLIB = -lXt
XMLIB = -lXm
XEXTRALIBS =

TERMLIB = -ltermcap
CURSES = -lncurses $(TERMLIB)
MATHLIB = -lm

# LIBRULE = ar ruv $@ $?
# LIBRULE = ar ruv $@ $?; ranlib $@
# LIBRULE = ar ruv $@ $?; ar ts $@
# LIBRULE = ar rc $@ `lorder $(OBJ) | tsort`
LIBRULE = ar ruv $@ $?

USE_TERMIO = -DUSE_TERMIO
USE_MTIO = -DUSE_MTIO
USE_FTIME = -DUSE_FTIME
DIGITFLAGS = -DUSE_SETREUID -DUSE_SETPRIORITY
VECTLIBFLAGS =
GETHOSTNAME = -DGETHOSTNAME_OK

From - Tue Sep 23 08:58:00 1997

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No, you do not need to run photo.init.
The DEM does not have to be the same resolution as the photo. However, if
you want to create a higher resolution DEM with values interpolated between
the cells of the current DEM, you could change the region cell size
(g.region), run r.contour and then r.surf.contour.

Jim Schmidt

At 09:58 PM 9/17/97 +0200, you wrote:

Hello
trying to do more with orthorectification of aerial photographs
new problems are:
-is it necessary to run photo.init in i.ortho.photo for computing camera
initial exposure station? It would take a lot of time to find such a
information like:
                 initial Xc
                 initial Yc
                 initial Zc
                 initial omega
                 initial phi
                 initial kappa.....
All other parameters of the camera, I have.
-does it matter if my image /aerial photo/ has about 4200x3900 and DEM has
780x710 /row x column/? For computing ortho...
Thanks to all
Rado Bonk

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linux grass users

Where can I find the command r.in.doq (reads in and builds support files for
digitial orthophotograhy) for linux? The command exist for the SUN Solaris.
Is anyone working on a new version of r.in.doq that will work with the new
header format that USGS is implementing for DOQQs.

I'm running Slackware 3.1 and XFree86 3.2 on a IBM Thinkpad. I'm using grass
4.1.5 obtained from moon.
Thanks
Anthony

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Hello dear GRASS users!

I've already sent this message a month ago and
didn't get any answer...
It might be it didn't reach the right destination,
or my questions may be irrelevant (;-(...

I'm a new GRASS (under Linux) user and have 2 problems :

First of all, I'm using GRASS but not only GRASS... which
means I'd like to be able to use my datas under various softwares.
So, I'm using the different GRASS progs to import/export data.

My first problem is that r.out.tga is producing huge files (24 bits
images)
although one uses only (mainly ?) 8 bits images with GRASS... Is there
another
raster
export prog which can produce 8 bits images (e.g. r.out.gif)?

My second problem is less obvious : I've scanned a map in 15 images.
Before digitizing it (with another software), I've i.rectified each of
them
(i.rectify2, 3rd order, at least 30 GCP's per image). When I try to
put the 15 rectified images together (after an r.out.tga) in any
software
(I'm now using CorelXARA under Windows) there are some distorsions, but
if
I first r.patch those and then r.out.tga the result, it fits perfectly!
I thought the images produced by i.rectify2 were... rectified!!!
You could say : "never mind, use r.patch!". Yes, except that it would
produce a file my poor Pentium 133, 64 MB of RAM and 4GB of HDD wouldn't
dare
to just look at it!

Thanks by advance

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From - Wed Sep 24 09:05:18 1997

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message>Where can I find the command r.in.doq (reads in and builds support files for
message>digitial orthophotograhy) for linux? The command exist for the SUN Solaris.
message>Is anyone working on a new version of r.in.doq that will work with the new
message>header format that USGS is implementing for DOQQs.

Yes, USDA NRCS recently revised the r.in.doq src code to read the new header format.
This source code revision could be provided to interested parties.

Please contact me by email or phone for more information on r.in.doq

Jill

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Hello dear GRASS users!

I've already sent this message a month ago and
didn't get any answer...
It might be it didn't reach the right destination,
or my questions may be irrelevant (;-(...

I'm a new GRASS (under Linux) user and have 2 problems :

First of all, I'm using GRASS but not only GRASS... which
means I'd like to be able to use my datas under various softwares.
So, I'm using the different GRASS progs to import/export data.

My first problem is that r.out.tga is producing huge files (24 bits
images)
although one uses only (mainly ?) 8 bits images with GRASS... Is there
another
raster
export prog which can produce 8 bits images (e.g. r.out.gif)?

If you have the pbm tools, or xv, you
can simply convert the targa file to jpeg or gif or whatever you need.
It is clearly not an elegant solution, but it's the simplest one, I believe.

Salut!

                =========================================
                Andrea Giacomelli
                Centre for Advanced Studies, Research and
                Development in Sardinia
                Environment Division

http://www.crs4.it/~andreag
=========================================

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On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Jean-Marc Chofflet wrote:

Hello dear GRASS users!

I've already sent this message a month ago and
didn't get any answer...
It might be it didn't reach the right destination,
or my questions may be irrelevant (;-(...

I'm a new GRASS (under Linux) user and have 2 problems :

First of all, I'm using GRASS but not only GRASS... which
means I'd like to be able to use my datas under various softwares.
So, I'm using the different GRASS progs to import/export data.

My first problem is that r.out.tga is producing huge files (24 bits
images)
although one uses only (mainly ?) 8 bits images with GRASS... Is there
another
raster
export prog which can produce 8 bits images (e.g. r.out.gif)?

Have you looked at r.out.tiff? This produces 8-bit tiffs only.

My second problem is less obvious : I've scanned a map in 15 images.
Before digitizing it (with another software), I've i.rectified each of
them
(i.rectify2, 3rd order, at least 30 GCP's per image). When I try to
put the 15 rectified images together (after an r.out.tga) in any
software
(I'm now using CorelXARA under Windows) there are some distorsions, but
if
I first r.patch those and then r.out.tga the result, it fits perfectly!
I thought the images produced by i.rectify2 were... rectified!!!
You could say : "never mind, use r.patch!". Yes, except that it would
produce a file my poor Pentium 133, 64 MB of RAM and 4GB of HDD wouldn't
dare
to just look at it!

Could you give a little more information about the images that you are
scanning? Unless they are non-ortho-rectified aerial photos, chances are
that you really only need a first order rectification, simply to
geo-reference them. I'm really unclear about whether you were r.patch-ing
them before or after rectification.

-Malcolm

Thanks by advance

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* ERA 41 du CNRS 7, rue Gaston Couté *
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* F75006 Paris *
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Hi,
A GRASS-XMI user reported that he could not display a raster map while
running GRASS4.1.5. It was found that the parameter list for d.rast has
been changed. When the following command was executed

d.rast map=elevation bg=black

an error message said

<bg> is not a valid parameter

I remember <bg> used to be an optional parameter in GRASS4.1. Could
someone explain the reason for the change? Thanks.

The version 1.2.1 release of GRASS-XMI for Solaris running on SPARC will
be available for downloading (http://www.gpz.com) in ten days. The new
release will support d.rast for both GRASS4.1 and 4.1.5. It will also
include Map Calculator and a few other modules.

Regards,
George Chou
gchou@gpz.com
(650) 949-3708

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Radoslav Bonk wrote:

[...] try to run d.display [...]

Wow! I hadn't found that program yet. That makes things much simpler,
thanks.

Aldo Clerici wrote:

I usually use:
   r.thin (to thins lines)
   r.line (to create a binary vector file)
   v.support (to build the dig_plus file)
   v.digit (to label contour lines).

Okay, I've done all that now. I've also gone further and attempted
to use v.surf.idw to build a raster, then r.neighbors to smooth the
data, then r.slope.aspect and then r.cost to try and figure out an
optimal road path. [Thanks to Ishmael Williams for that last bit].

But the contour separation varies considerably ... the land has steep
and flat sections, so r.neighbors would tend to pull down the hills
if I enlarge it's sampling area too much ... but if I don't enlarge
it enough then there are flat sections between contours that affect
the cost calculations.

How do I smooth contours without warping the data too much?

--
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The GRASS Version 4.1 User's Reference Manual (hardcopy, Spring 1993 does
not list "bg" as a parameter for d.rast (in fact, _none_ of the "d."
commands list bg as a parameter in that manual). What are you guys
testing this on??
-Malcolm

On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, George Chou wrote:

Hi,
A GRASS-XMI user reported that he could not display a raster map while
running GRASS4.1.5. It was found that the parameter list for d.rast has
been changed. When the following command was executed

d.rast map=elevation bg=black

an error message said

<bg> is not a valid parameter

I remember <bg> used to be an optional parameter in GRASS4.1. Could
someone explain the reason for the change? Thanks.

The version 1.2.1 release of GRASS-XMI for Solaris running on SPARC will
be available for downloading (http://www.gpz.com) in ten days. The new
release will support d.rast for both GRASS4.1 and 4.1.5. It will also
include Map Calculator and a few other modules.

Regards,
George Chou
gchou@gpz.com
(650) 949-3708

From - Fri Sep 26 08:48:17 1997

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Malcolm,
Thanks for replying. However, I did find that "d.rast help" and "g.manual"
produce different parameter list. When there is conflict between "Help"
and "Manual", we test the program by executing the program with different
parameter settings. For "d.rast", our test result shows that "d.rast help"
matches the command. My preference is to have a choice for the background
color.

Here are the messages I got from executing "d.rast help" and "g.version":

#########################################
7 /home/chou> d.rast help

Usage:
d.rast [-oi] map=name [catlist=cat[-cat][,cat[-cat],...]]
[vallist=val[-val][,val[-val],...]] [bg=color]

Flags:
-o Overlay (non-null values only)
-i Invert catlist

Parameters:
      map Raster map to be displayed
  catlist List of categories to be displayed
  vallist List of values to be displayed
       bg Background color (for null)
            options: white,black,red,green,blue,yellow,magenta,cyan,aqua,
                     grey,gray,orange,brown,purple,violet,indigo
8 /home/chou> g.version
GRASS 4.1 (Spring 1993) Update Package 5, January 1995

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From: Malcolm Williamson <malcolm@cast.uark.edu>
To: grassu@cecer.army.mil
Subject: Re: <bg> is not a valid parameter
Date: Thursday, September 25, 1997 8:12 AM

The GRASS Version 4.1 User's Reference Manual (hardcopy, Spring 1993 does

not list "bg" as a parameter for d.rast (in fact, _none_ of the "d."
commands list bg as a parameter in that manual). What are you guys
testing this on??
-Malcolm

On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, George Chou wrote:

> Hi,
> A GRASS-XMI user reported that he could not display a raster map while
> running GRASS4.1.5. It was found that the parameter list for d.rast

has

> been changed. When the following command was executed
>
> d.rast map=elevation bg=black
>
> an error message said
>
> <bg> is not a valid parameter
>
> I remember <bg> used to be an optional parameter in GRASS4.1. Could
> someone explain the reason for the change? Thanks.
>
> The version 1.2.1 release of GRASS-XMI for Solaris running on SPARC

will

> be available for downloading (http://www.gpz.com) in ten days. The new

> release will support d.rast for both GRASS4.1 and 4.1.5. It will also
> include Map Calculator and a few other modules.
>
> Regards,
> George Chou
> gchou@gpz.com
> (650) 949-3708
>

From - Fri Sep 26 08:48:17 1997

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George,
Are you sure that you're not running the NRCS (former SCS) release of
GRASS? I'm running the standard CERL release (4.1.5) compiled from source
code, and my g.manual page matches the command-line help _and_ the
hard-copy User's Reference Manual. If you _are_ running the NRCS code,
then you've got quite a few potential problems, as the majority of GRASS
users don't have this code. NRCS has not publicly released the source
code to their most recent version, at least not to the best of my knowledge
(correct me, Jill!).
-Malcolm

On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, George Chou wrote:

Malcolm,
Thanks for replying. However, I did find that "d.rast help" and "g.manual"
produce different parameter list. When there is conflict between "Help"
and "Manual", we test the program by executing the program with different
parameter settings. For "d.rast", our test result shows that "d.rast help"
matches the command. My preference is to have a choice for the background
color.

Here are the messages I got from executing "d.rast help" and "g.version":

#########################################
7 /home/chou> d.rast help

Usage:
d.rast [-oi] map=name [catlist=cat[-cat][,cat[-cat],...]]
   [vallist=val[-val][,val[-val],...]] [bg=color]

Flags:
  -o Overlay (non-null values only)
  -i Invert catlist

Parameters:
      map Raster map to be displayed
  catlist List of categories to be displayed
  vallist List of values to be displayed
       bg Background color (for null)
            options: white,black,red,green,blue,yellow,magenta,cyan,aqua,
                     grey,gray,orange,brown,purple,violet,indigo
8 /home/chou> g.version
GRASS 4.1 (Spring 1993) Update Package 5, January 1995

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> From: Malcolm Williamson <malcolm@cast.uark.edu>
> To: grassu@cecer.army.mil
> Subject: Re: <bg> is not a valid parameter
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 1997 8:12 AM
>
> The GRASS Version 4.1 User's Reference Manual (hardcopy, Spring 1993 does

> not list "bg" as a parameter for d.rast (in fact, _none_ of the "d."
> commands list bg as a parameter in that manual). What are you guys
> testing this on??
> -Malcolm
>
> On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, George Chou wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > A GRASS-XMI user reported that he could not display a raster map while
> > running GRASS4.1.5. It was found that the parameter list for d.rast
has
> > been changed. When the following command was executed
> >
> > d.rast map=elevation bg=black
> >
> > an error message said
> >
> > <bg> is not a valid parameter
> >
> > I remember <bg> used to be an optional parameter in GRASS4.1. Could
> > someone explain the reason for the change? Thanks.
> >
> > The version 1.2.1 release of GRASS-XMI for Solaris running on SPARC
will
> > be available for downloading (http://www.gpz.com) in ten days. The new

> > release will support d.rast for both GRASS4.1 and 4.1.5. It will also
> > include Map Calculator and a few other modules.
> >
> > Regards,
> > George Chou
> > gchou@gpz.com
> > (650) 949-3708
> >

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I asked a question regarding the use of i.rectify(2) and r.patch

My second problem is less obvious : I've scanned a map in 15 images.
Before digitizing it (with another software), I've i.rectified each of
them
(i.rectify2, 3rd order, at least 30 GCP's per image). When I try to
put the 15 rectified images together (after an r.out.tga) in any
software
(I'm now using CorelXARA under Windows) there are some distorsions, but
if
I first r.patch those and then r.out.tga the result, it fits perfectly!
I thought the images produced by i.rectify2 were... rectified!!!
You could say : "never mind, use r.patch!". Yes, except that it would
produce a file my poor Pentium 133, 64 MB of RAM and 4GB of HDD wouldn't
dare
to just look at it!

Malcolm answered me :

Could you give a little more information about the images that you are
scanning? Unless they are non-ortho-rectified aerial photos, chances are
that you really only need a first order rectification, simply to
geo-reference them. I'm really unclear about whether you were r.patch-ing
them before or after rectification.

The images I'm using are the scanned images of a paper map I want to
digitize. Since the sheet is larger then my scanner, I've produced 15
images.
I've used i.rectify2 since the resulting images are not perfectly
accurate
(my map is an old one with many folds...).

My first step was to digitize each of the images in CorelXARA (vectorial
software)
and try to fit the pieces together : some distorsions were too important
so I've used
i.rectify2 under GRASS, then produced 15 rectified images. I've tried
again under CorelXARA :
again some distorsions (not the same ones). So I r.patched my rectified
images to produce
one image : it works (almost perfectly)! My question is : does r.patch
do more then just
connecting the pieces together or did I misused CorelXARA when I tried
to join the rectified
images "by hand"?

Thanks again

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On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, Jean-Marc Chofflet wrote:

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My first step was to digitize each of the images in CorelXARA (vectorial
software)
and try to fit the pieces together : some distorsions were too important
so I've used
i.rectify2 under GRASS, then produced 15 rectified images. I've tried
again under CorelXARA :
again some distorsions (not the same ones). So I r.patched my rectified
images to produce
one image : it works (almost perfectly)! My question is : does r.patch
do more then just
connecting the pieces together or did I misused CorelXARA when I tried
to join the rectified
images "by hand"?

r.patch is real simple - it just takes the list of input maps, starting
with the first one, and copies the data to a new raster layer, with each
successive map only being able to add data where there was _not_ data
from an earlier map in the input list. In other words, the first map will
overlap the second one, the second will overlap the third, and so on
(assuming that there is a degree of overlap between input raster layers).
It doesn't adjust the data in any way. Hope that helps,
-Malcolm

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Hi Netters,

How can I convert a site_list file to a raster layer so that I can use
r.*** (e.g. r.surf.idw) functions to process it ?

Vincent

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I have not posted to the GRASS lists for a long time, so today I
will post three times to make up for it.

As you all know, GRASS is a very flexible well designed GIS and it
is one of the few freeware GIS products left. This makes it
extremely important to researchers, GIS developers, students, and
anyone who wants to do GIS on Linux.

CERL dropped support for GRASS a couple years ago, and no one
was able to step in and coordinate future developments. Users
continued to use GRASS. Various people continued their own development
efforts. Kind souls like Andreas Holz packaged GRASS CDs. Still the
the future looked bleek with no one to coordinate everyone's efforts.

BUT ALAS!! Baylor University's GRASS Research Group has stepped forward.
See http://www.cecer.army.mil/grass/GRASS.main.html or better yet
http://www.baylor.edu/~grass/. I have talked with Cleavy McKnight
who coordinates the GRASS Research Group. Their resources are modest,
but Baylor is behind them and they are dedicated to the cause. I
sincerely hope the entire GRASS community gives them the support they
need.

                                   David Mandel
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On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Vincent C. Tao wrote:

Hi Netters,

How can I convert a site_list file to a raster layer so that I can use
r.*** (e.g. r.surf.idw) functions to process it ?

Vincent

Two choices, Vincent: s.menu, or s.to.rast. Make sure that there are
pound signs (#) in front of the attributes, or they will not be treated
as valid z values (a curse of the GRASS sites format, IMHO). BTW, why not
use the s.*** interpolation programs, such as s.surf.idw?
-Malcolm

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At 06:48 PM 9/26/97 -0600, you wrote:

Hi Netters,

How can I convert a site_list file to a raster layer so that I can use
r.*** (e.g. r.surf.idw) functions to process it ?

Vincent

Try s.surf.tps. There is also another s.surf.???

From - Wed Oct 01 08:38:34 1997

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Dear Grassers,

you may have concluded from the subject line that I am a beginner. Well, I
am. I am a student Physical Geography in the Netherlands and I'm very
interested in GIS-programs. So now I'm trying to get GRASS going on my
Pentium 133. Linux works, it's a REDHAT version. I don't know which one
(probably version 3), with a fresh kernel (probably 2.0.9).
I don't know about my gcc, libc or flex (how do I find out?) Hey, I told you
I was a beginner!
Anyway, I downloaded Grass 4.15 from:

ftp://129.229.103.1/pub/grass/grass4.1/release/binary/linux/

with the install.sh -file as well.
Unfortunately, this script gives error messages. Grass did unzip and go to
the right directories, but the installation is not finished, Linux doesn't
know about Grass yet.
Can someone tell me how to get install.sh working?

Thank you very much indeed,

greetings, IVAN

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I just recompiled grass for my DEC Alphastation and for my SGI INDY. After
getting the usual (?) compilation errors, I finally got everything up and
running. Or so I thought!

When I say 'd.mon start=x0' to my Alphastation it says:

Graphics driver [x0] started
can't read index!
ERROR eof from graphics driver.
Problem selecting x0. Will try once more
Please start graphics monitor <x0>.
Error - Graphics monitor <x0> not running!

Seems like X is missing something, but what? Any help appreciated.

Best,
Rainer

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From - Tue Sep 30 17:18:24 1997

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Hello Justin,

well, the success was only of short time - xgrass was compiled and
linked but it is not running right! It starts up with the right dialog
window and I can open the Add Item dialog box. But I can not edit one
of the input lines. I can select the Create buttons, but since there are
no entries in the edit lines, there is nothing to create, to add, to
work on.... So the only thing that works is the Exit button....
Any idea?

Regards,

Stephan

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Hello...

I'm just getting GRASS up and running, and I can't seem to get XGRASS to
recognize any data. I've successfully downloaded, installed, and run
the XGRASS front end, as well as the simple text-based GRASS, but I
can't seem to get either to find a database. In XGRASS, I get a nice
GUI interface, but no data is initially loaded, and when I try to add a
database, it gives me a dialogue box that won't allow me to type
anything. Any ideas on what I may be doing wrong? Thanks for your
input.
--
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J. Brian Hughes
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Rainer Bdrs wrote:

Graphics driver [x0] started
can't read index!
ERROR eof from graphics driver.

It's missing the graphics configuration file, there's a sample file
that has to be renamed. Or also missing the FIFO pipes used to talk
to the driver process. There's a script to build those.

[does this list filter mail with embedded though tiny JPEG's of
output? I haven't seen the echo of a mail I sent with a 1k JPEG
in it, so I fear filtration.]

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From - Wed Oct 01 09:05:25 1997

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Hi Ivan,

how did you do the downloading? With Netscape? I did it first this way,
and the archives were corrupted - Doing it with "normal" ftp succeeded.
That's what I can tell you about it - as being novice, too

Regards,

Stephan

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From - Wed Oct 01 09:05:26 1997

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Hi Brian-

In XGRASS, I get a nice
GUI interface, but no data is initially loaded, and when I try to add > a database, it gives me a dialogue box that won't allow me to type
anything. Any ideas on what I may be doing wrong? Thanks for your
input.

That's the same problem I 've got! Please - let me know if you get a
solution, which is not posted to the list. I will keep you in touch if
I find a solution

Regards,

Stephan

P.S.: What Hardware, O/S, X, and/or Motif are you using?
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Hi Brian-

Just a minute ago, I received the following. Hope that helps - I didn't
try I out up to now, but will do soon...

Regards,

Stephan
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Hello Stephan

Again I have seen this and again, the code is screwed up. However, I found an
easy way to get around the problem, rather than trying to find the code that
screwed up and changing it.

There should be a file called $GIS/etc/databases (if not you can create it)
which contains the information for the grass database directories. Each line in
the file is the complete path to a grass database (eg /usr/people/grass/data).
Simply add a line with the complete path to your grass database and save the
file. Then start xgrass and the path should now appear in the database list.
Then you simply click the database you want and the available locations will
appear. Then click the location you want and the available mapsets appear.
Click the mapset you want and then click accept. The xgrass menubar should pop
up. Then immediately quit xgrass and a dialog box should appear. You can now
save your seesion with an appropriate name and quit. The next time you run
xgrass the session will appear in the session list.

It's not elegant but it beats mucking around with the code. Hope this helps.

--
Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
High Performance Computing Center
National Electronics and Computer Technology Center (NECTEC)
Bangkok, Thailand

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From - Thu Oct 02 09:01:04 1997

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Hello Justin,

isn=B4t it funny? Well, I forwarded your answer on my question to Brian, to=
o.
I tried it out and could _start_ XGRASS - the menubar appeared. But when I
tried to run some routines from the popups, the program core dumped. I am
wondering if I should better stop trying to get xgrass running proparbly
instead of bothering you with these problems - I should be contend with the
command line version...

Thanks again for all your help,

=09Stephan

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That will probably be it. You'll here from me.

greetings, Ivan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Check it out!

http://huizen.dds.nl/~faba

greetings Ivan

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From - Wed Oct 01 09:05:26 1997

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Hello Stephan

Again I have seen this and again, the code is screwed up. However, I found an
easy way to get around the problem, rather than trying to find the code that
screwed up and changing it.

There should be a file called $GIS/etc/databases (if not you can create it)
which contains the information for the grass database directories. Each line in
the file is the complete path to a grass database (eg /usr/people/grass/data).
Simply add a line with the complete path to your grass database and save the
file. Then start xgrass and the path should now appear in the database list.
Then you simply click the database you want and the available locations will
appear. Then click the location you want and the available mapsets appear.
Click the mapset you want and then click accept. The xgrass menubar should pop
up. Then immediately quit xgrass and a dialog box should appear. You can now
save your seesion with an appropriate name and quit. The next time you run
xgrass the session will appear in the session list.

It's not elegant but it beats mucking around with the code. Hope this helps.

--
Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
High Performance Computing Center
National Electronics and Computer Technology Center (NECTEC)
Bangkok, Thailand

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Hello Brian

On Sep 30, 1:32pm, Brian Hughes wrote:

Subject: Loading a database
Hello...

I'm just getting GRASS up and running, and I can't seem to get XGRASS to
recognize any data. I've successfully downloaded, installed, and run
the XGRASS front end, as well as the simple text-based GRASS, but I
can't seem to get either to find a database. In XGRASS, I get a nice
GUI interface, but no data is initially loaded, and when I try to add a
database, it gives me a dialogue box that won't allow me to type
anything. Any ideas on what I may be doing wrong? Thanks for your
input.

Xgrass has some screwed up code in it for adding items. However, I have a
workaround that seems to work.

There should be a file called $GIS/etc/databases (if not you can create it)
which contains the information for the grass database directories. Each line in
the file is the complete path to a grass database (eg /usr/people/grass/data).
Simply add a line with the complete path to your grass database and save the
file. Then start xgrass and the path should now appear in the database list.
Then you simply click the database you want and the available locations will
appear. Then click the location you want and the available mapsets appear.
Click the mapset you want and then click accept. The xgrass menubar should pop
up. Then immediately quit xgrass and a dialog box should appear. You can now
save your seesion with an appropriate name and quit. The next time you run
xgrass the session will appear in the session list.

It's not elegant but it beats mucking around with the code. Hope this helps.

--
Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
High Performance Computing Center
National Electronics and Computer Technology Center (NECTEC)
Bangkok, Thailand

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of us who do. ---Anonymous

Jazz and Trek Rule!!!

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Hi Rainer

On Sep 30, 6:44pm, Rainer B=E4rs wrote:

Subject: can not start monitor
I just recompiled grass for my DEC Alphastation and for my SGI INDY. Af=

ter

getting the usual (?) compilation errors, I finally got everything up a=

nd

running. Or so I thought!

When I say 'd.mon start=3Dx0' to my Alphastation it says:

Graphics driver [x0] started
can't read index!
ERROR eof from graphics driver.
Problem selecting x0. Will try once more
Please start graphics monitor <x0>.
Error - Graphics monitor <x0> not running!

Is your alphastation a 64-bit system? If so then I know the answer to you=
r
problem (I had the same problem with our 64 bit version on our SGI). I in=
clude
here my notes on the problem and how I fixed it.

The problem turned out to be that to process the fonts for the graphics d=
river,
they were reading from a file a certain number of bytes. The calculation =
of
this number of bytes was based on the size of a pointer (8 for 64 bit sys=
tems)
when in reality, the number of bytes available for reading was based on 4=
(the
size of pointers on 32 bit systems). It actually has nothing to do with t=
he
size of pointers, thus the calculation was too large and the read command=
was
trying to read more bytes than were available. The problem was fixed by
changing line 43 of the file $GIS/src/display/devices/XDRIVER/lib/font.c =
to the
following
size =3D nchars * 4;

Hope this helps.

-- =

Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
High Performance Computing Center
National Electronics and Computer Technology Center (NECTEC)
Bangkok, Thailand
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This is a common one on my machine. Whenever GRASS is quit abnormally, the
lock file remains.

All you need to do is delete thefile. I have added that to my grass4.1
script, along with a .tmp file remover. It seems to work much better now.

On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Teresa Salyer wrote:

When I type d.mon start=x0 it brings up the x0 monitor ,but says
Error: could not complete locking process for monitor (x0)
Lock File is /gis/pgm/grass414/locks/guernsey/mon.279401

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Subject: can not start monitor
I just recompiled grass for my DEC Alphastation and for my SGI INDY. After
getting the usual (?) compilation errors, I finally got everything up and
running. Or so I thought!

When I say 'd.mon start=x0' to my Alphastation it says:

Graphics driver [x0] started
can't read index!
ERROR eof from graphics driver.
Problem selecting x0. Will try once more
Please start graphics monitor <x0>.
Error - Graphics monitor <x0> not running!

...

The problem turned out to be that to process the fonts for the graphics
driver,
they were reading from a file a certain number of bytes. The calculation of
this number of bytes was based on the size of a pointer (8 for 64 bit systems)
when in reality, the number of bytes available for reading was based on 4 (the
size of pointers on 32 bit systems). It actually has nothing to do with the
size of pointers, thus the calculation was too large and the read command was
trying to read more bytes than were available. The problem was fixed by
changing line 43 of the file $GIS/src/display/devices/XDRIVER/lib/font.c
to the
following
size = nchars * 4;

This did it, now it works OK. Thanks Justin, and everyone else who
responded to my original message.

This probably is an old thought, and should be on grass-p, but
these 32- and 64-bit (and 128-bit and...) are going to cause us a lot
more trouble in the future, if no systematic approach is taken.

Best, Rainer

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From - Thu Oct 02 09:01:06 1997

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Hi Stephan

On Oct 1, 1:55pm, Stephan Eickschen wrote:

tried to run some routines from the popups, the program core dumped. I am
wondering if I should better stop trying to get xgrass running proparbly
instead of bothering you with these problems - I should be contend with the
command line version...

Which programs did you try to run? It may not be an xgrass problem. Answering
your questions is no bother. I'm glad that I can help someone instead of being
helped for a change.

Talk to you later.

--
Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
High Performance Computing Center
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Jazz and Trek Rule!!!

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Dear GRASS users,

I want to print out 3D images created by d.3d but I cannot figure out how to
use ps.map to do this. Any help or suggestions would be higly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance.

KOYAMA Kazuo

From - Thu Oct 02 15:24:18 1997

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Hi Justin,

well - that's very kind of you, being so indulgent with a novice like
me More and more even the command line version makes trouble - it's
so frustrating!
I think the prolems are starting at the point, were the coordinates
which describe the mapset (I work on lat/lon) become

  projection: 3 (Latitude-Longitude)
  zone: 0
  north: 70:00:0-nan0xffffffffS
  south: 72:00:0-nan0xffffffffS
  east: 7:00:0-nan0xffffffffW
  west: 11:00:0-nan0xffffffffW

  e-w res: 0:01:0-nan0xffffffff
  n-s res: 0:00:0-nan0xffffffff

  total rows: 288
  total cols: 240
  total cells: 69,120

Even editing the "WIND"-files doesn't help.... and that's the same with
Grass and XGrass.
The XGrass coredumps e.g. when I try: "Display" -> "Control Display
Monitor" -> $BOOM$ !!!
Bus Errors occure when I try to work with Site Data, which I successful-
ly imported with Grass
...andsoonandsoon...

Do you have any experience with the SGI - binaries provided at
moon.cecer?

Sincerly,

Stephan

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Dear Grass Users

Does somebody know where the binary files for SWAT/GRASS installation in
LINUX are located ?
The site ftp://keck.baylor.edu/pub/grass/swatgrass/ does not have them.

Thank you in advance.

Kazunori Inoue
Tokyo
Japan
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Hi there:

I want to print out 3D images created by d.3d but I cannot figure out how to
use ps.map to do this. Any help or suggestions would be higly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance.

KOYAMA Kazuo

As far as I know, you can't do it directly from GRASS with ps.map or
similar. The approach that I have always taken is to make the monitor as
large as possible, do a screen capture with XV or other, and then import the
resulting bitmap image into a graphics program like Corel or Adobe. It
actually gives great results, just have to be a little creative. Hope this
helps.

Shawn Francis

Applied Ecosystem Management
100-114 Galena Road
Whitehorse, Yukon Y1A 2W6
tel/fax (403) 393-3793
aem@yknet.yk.ca

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Hello Stephan

On Oct 2, 3:17pm, Stephan Eickschen wrote:

Subject: Re: Loading a database
Hi Justin,

well - that's very kind of you, being so indulgent with a novice like
me More and more even the command line version makes trouble - it's
so frustrating!

We only had a few problems with the command line interface, but since we got
xgrass running we haven't had many problems.

I think the prolems are starting at the point, were the coordinates
which describe the mapset (I work on lat/lon) become
> projection: 3 (Latitude-Longitude)
> zone: 0
> north: 70:00:0-nan0xffffffffS
> south: 72:00:0-nan0xffffffffS
> east: 7:00:0-nan0xffffffffW
> west: 11:00:0-nan0xffffffffW
>
> e-w res: 0:01:0-nan0xffffffff
> n-s res: 0:00:0-nan0xffffffff
>
> total rows: 288
> total cols: 240
> total cells: 69,120
Even editing the "WIND"-files doesn't help.... and that's the same with
Grass and XGrass.

Not too sure what's happening here.. we don't use lat/long here very often. In
fact one of my colleagues just converted a file to lat/long and this was the
first time we've used it.

The XGrass coredumps e.g. when I try: "Display" -> "Control Display
Monitor" -> $BOOM$ !!!

This is strange. If a dialog box doesn't even pop up then the problem is with
the xclip program. Unfortunately, we have never had this problem and I'm not
sure exactly how xclip works. Did you check all the warnings that the compiler
gave? Sometimes warnings shouldn't be ignored (even though some people seem to
think otherwise) and there may have been something that is causing the problem.
If you want, I can put a file with all the changes I made to the xgrass code
(and grass if you like) on our ftp site for your reference.

Bus Errors occure when I try to work with Site Data, which I successful-
ly imported with Grass
...andsoonandsoon...

Sorry, I can't help here.

Do you have any experience with the SGI - binaries provided at
moon.cecer?

No, we have always compiled the code.

I don't really understand why you are having these problems. I've only been on
the mailing list for a little over a year and I don't remember anyone reporting
these problems. Sorry I couldn't be of much help this time.

--
Sincerely,

Jazzman (a.k.a. Justin Hickey) e-mail: jhickey@hpcc.nectec.or.th
High Performance Computing Center
National Electronics and Computer Technology Center (NECTEC)
Bangkok, Thailand

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Jazz and Trek Rule!!!

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Hello,

The best way I've found to printout 3D maps from d.3d is to use the CELL
driver.

Get the best view for your scene in d.3d interactive, and save the parameters
to a 3D view file (in the GRASS database directories). Open up that file and
substitute the parameters into the d.3d command line. (You may have to adjust a
few of the parameters here - just make sure it looks allright on the X monitor.

Once you've got the d.3d command line you want, start the CELL driver :-
d.mon start=CELL select=CELL
setenv GRASS_HEIGHT 2000
setenv GRASS_WIDTH 2000
d.erase
d.3d <your d.3d command line parameters>
d.mon stop=CELL
d.mon select=x0
<wait a few seconds - the CELL driver is now writing it's raster layer which
is called D_cell>
g.region rast=D_cell
d.rast D_cell

The raster D_cell should now have your 3D view as a normal GRASS raster - you
can now export this into any file format you want (eg r.out.tga, r.out.ppm,
r.out.gif, r.out.tif etc, etc) and import this into a graphics package for
printing.

Hope this helps,

Alastair Duncan

From - Wed Oct 08 08:58:13 1997

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For all who have problems running GRASS monitors

There are two versions of the grass-monitor system.

The original version communicates with the d.* programs by means of
fifo's, the special files (fifo.1a, fifo.1b etc) you can make with mknod p.
If something is wrong you can usually kill hanging XDRIVER processes
(ps -ef | grep x0) and restart GRASS graphics by typing d.mon x0.

There is another version wich uses message queues for communication
with grass d.* programs. Although the performance of this version is
much better (when running on Solaris), there are conditions that
make the complete monitor system hang, making it impossible to start
new sessions or even stopping the current one.

What you then have to do is kill all XDRIVER processes (see above)
and remove the message queues. First (as user root) list all message
queues with:
ipcs -aq
and then you can remove those queues that appear to belong to any
XDRIVER process:
ipcrm -q QID
where QID has to be replaced by the proper queue ID.
Note that each XDRIVER process has two queues.
You also need the files fifo.1a, fifo.1b etc. These files are used to
generate unique QUEUE KEYS. If your system uses message queues these
are ordinary files and they contain a text like "don't remove me".

Ronald Wiemer
R.O.B. / Archis
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The Netherlands

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Greetings!

Here is some more info on the 64-bit topic

On Oct 2, 4:32pm, Rainer Bärs wrote:

I just discovered that d.zoom gives me an unexpected crash "ERROR
unexpected EOF from graphics driver"

For some odd reason, the _get (buf, n) function in src/libes/raster/io.c
causes this error in my Alphastation because read(2) returns zero read
characters in a response to _send_ident (RESPOND). It should return at
least one char, shouldn't it?

It is D_popup in popup.c that makes a call to R_flush, which calls
R_stabilize, which then can't read the response and crashes.

Any idea where this bug hides?

Best,
Rainer Bars

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From - Tue Oct 07 18:14:56 1997

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Dear Justin-

well, I must admit, that I gave up getting rid of all the bugs, since
I SUCESSFULLY installed the binary version from moon - I have to much
to do that I could spend so much time in searching the bugs....
Thanks again for all your help!!!!!

Regards,

Stephan

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Scott O'Donnell wrote:

If you need the contour vector layer to be used by r.cost, you'll
need to "rasterize" your vector contour layer. Use the raster
contour map as input to r.cost, then r.cost will "follow" the path
you expected to get.

I'm not sure if you read my mail fully, Scott. The input data was a
raster layer derived from the vector contour layer. I used v.to.rast
for that, and then smoothed it with r.neighbors. Then I used
r.slope.aspect to derive a slope raster layer.

From what I see, your image includes two elements, a gray-scale
elevation raster map and a vector contour map.

No, the image in my mail was three elements, a grey-scale cost raster
which was generated by r.cost, the vector contour map, and the vector
generated by an r.drain. My original mail explained the sequence used.

I've examined the program code in r.cost, and I _know_ it takes no
notice of the angle of attack of a path. So is there a program for
creating a path that does take direction of traversal into account?

--
James Cameron (cameron@stl.dec.com)
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

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Hi GRASS-users,

unfortunately I could not solve my problem now: I would like to calculate
the area, that can be flooded by a river. I want to use a DEM and a
streamchannel map. The algorithem (r.mapcalc) should look on each
streamchannel-rastercell and then calculate all surrounding rastercells (of
the DEM) that are 2 meters higher.
Any suggestions?

Thanks
Frank

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I am trying to figure out how to use 1.0-degree Digital Elevation
Map (DEM) data to fill in the gaps in 7.5-minute DEM data. This
involves converting coordinates from a latitude/longitude coordinate
system using the WGS 72 or WGS 84 datums to the UTM coordinate system
using the NAD 27 or NAD 83 datums. Can GRASS help me to do this?
Has anyone out there done coordinate conversions involving these
coordinate systems? I presume that if I can successfully get the data
into an acceptable form to be loaded into a GRASS database, then I can
save the information out to a file in a new coordinate system format.
Is this correct? Any input will be greatly appreciated.

J. Brian Hughes

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J. Brian Hughes wrote:

[...] Can GRASS help me to do this?
Has anyone out there done coordinate conversions involving these
coordinate systems? [...]

I tried looking for relevant code in the GRASS 4.1 source but found
nothing that would perform coordinate conversions in this manner.
I ended up having to use another software product (Trimble's Pathfinder
Office) to re-export the data in the right datum.

The only programs I found in GRASS were m.ll2u and m.u2ll, but they
only converted UTM to Lat/Long or back again.

My GPS data had originally been exported as Lat/Long, but I needed it in
Australian Map Grid 93 or something, which is based on UTM.

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According to _Digital_Elevation_Models_-_Data_Users_Guide_5_ (USGS,
1993), NAD83 and WGS84 can be considered functionally identical for the
conterminous United States. Therefor, you should be able to load the
1-degree DEM in the normal fashion to a Location established with a NAD83
datum in UTM. However, that probably still won't help you too much, as I
bet your 7.5 minute data is in NAD27. You can output a sites file from
your raster data and use the NAD2NAD program that comes with PROJ (the
program from the USGS that GRASS uses for coordinate transformations).
You can also download the contributed r.proj program and look at what
modifications would be required by it to do datum transformations, again
using NAD2NAD. THe other alternative is to look at other software
packages for datum converstion.
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On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, J. Brian Hughes wrote:

I am trying to figure out how to use 1.0-degree Digital Elevation
Map (DEM) data to fill in the gaps in 7.5-minute DEM data. This
involves converting coordinates from a latitude/longitude coordinate
system using the WGS 72 or WGS 84 datums to the UTM coordinate system
using the NAD 27 or NAD 83 datums. Can GRASS help me to do this?
Has anyone out there done coordinate conversions involving these
coordinate systems? I presume that if I can successfully get the data
into an acceptable form to be loaded into a GRASS database, then I can
save the information out to a file in a new coordinate system format.
Is this correct? Any input will be greatly appreciated.

J. Brian Hughes

From - Mon Oct 13 08:57:22 1997

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Hi all,

I have two raster layers, one with rivers, another with soil types. I want
to separate the areas of the soil map, that are not crossed or touched by a
river. Any suggestions how to perform this?

Thanks in advance
Frank

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Frank Lederer wrote:

I have two raster layers, one with rivers, another with soil types. I
want to separate the areas of the soil map, that are not crossed or
touched by a river. Any suggestions how to perform this?

Yes, Frank.

Use the program r.mapcalc.

For example, if your rivers raster has category values 0 for not river,
and 1 for river, then simply invert and multiply ...

r.mapcalc 'drysoils=(1-rivers)*soils'

This will cause cells that contain a river to have a zero soil value.

There is also an "if" function that would achieve a similar effect.
See the manual pages for r.mapcalc.

You may also want to spread the rivers to cause nearby cells to be
included as well. Can't remember off hand which r.program does that.

Hmm. Thinking on what you said again ... you want to "separate the
areas". Wondering if you mean to create a raster that describes areas
not touched by rivers. ;-|

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Hello,

I need to output DEM raster files to points in order to use NAD2NAD
program. Could you advise how to do that?

Thanks in advance
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