What is Status of GRASS CD for Linux?

    I have used GRASS in the past and liked it a great deal, but have been
distracted by other matters for six months or a year or so. So I'm kind
out of date regarding any changes in GRASS.

    In any case, I'm thinking about bringing GRASS up on my home system
(a 486/33 with 16 mb RAM and 750 mb disk running Linux) and preparing
a talk for the Portland Linux Users Group. If I do this I'ld have to get
a copy of GRASS and it is a pain to download given my slow data lines.
However, as I recall someone was preparing a GRASS on Linux CD for
distribution. Does this exist? If so how can one get a copy?

    If I have to download it, what is the best ftp site to use?

                                            Thanks,
                                            Dave

==============================================================
David Mandel, Linux Activist dmandel@transport.com
Internet Provided by: Transport Logic (503) 243-1940
               Serving the Pacific Northwestern USA
Portland * Vancouver * McMinnville * Salem * Bend

dmandel@transport.com (David Mandel) writes:

   I have used GRASS in the past and liked it a great deal, but have been
distracted by other matters for six months or a year or so. So I'm kind
out of date regarding any changes in GRASS.

   In any case, I'm thinking about bringing GRASS up on my home system
(a 486/33 with 16 mb RAM and 750 mb disk running Linux) and preparing
a talk for the Portland Linux Users Group. If I do this I'ld have to get
a copy of GRASS and it is a pain to download given my slow data lines.
However, as I recall someone was preparing a GRASS on Linux CD for
distribution. Does this exist? If so how can one get a copy?

Andreas Holz has prepared such a thing. As far as I know, he is on holiday
until the end of august. I am appending his original posting

Servus Henning

--
Henning Brockfeld u4901ac@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de
Institut f"ur Wirtschaftsgeographie Universit"at M"unchen
Tel: [+49] 89 / 2180-2899
FAX: [+49] 89 / 2180-3809

http://www.bwl.uni-muenchen.de/lmu/bwl/lehreinh/wigeo/personen/brockf/
http://miraculix.wigeo.bwl.uni-muenchen.de/~hbrock/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Microsoft is not the answer, Microsoft is the question. And the answer is NO.

------------------------- cut here -----------------------------------------

Hello,

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
I would like to apologize for my German, english spoken!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-

        You are interested in an order form of the GRASS-CD and some additional
        informations?

        OK!

        Some informations:

        I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TEST ALL GRASS PROGRAMS FOR CORRECT BEHAVIOUR
        ON LINUX!!!!!

        Definitive content of the CD:

        GRASS 4.1.5
                src tree
                src.garden tree
                src.alpha tree
                src.contrib tree
                src.related tree

        XGRASS
                except the pixmap-editor completely running
                I took the newest pixmap-editor from inria,
                which is running well.

        MAPGEN
                an alternative GRASS-MOTIF Interface based
                on XGEN.
                ATTENTION: the MAPGEN code seems to be incomplete!
                I did'nt test MAPGEN!!

        GNUPLOT
                and the GRASS-GNUPLOT interface

        SDTS
        AGNPS

        GRASS-man pages converted to html format, THANK YOU to
        Darrel Mcauley!!!!!!

        The GRASSU and GRASSP mailing-lists converted to html.

        All demonstration-databases, loadable from CD.

        The following software has been checked to be added to the CD.

        KHOROS 2.0.1
                1) Khoral research is wanting a huge license fee!
                2) The binares are huge, too. The would not fit on the
                   CD together with GRASS.

                KHOROS IS NOT INCLUDED!

        VIS-5D
                A 3D visualisation system for meteorologic
                datasets, but also usable to visualize flow
                through a medium (e.g. groundwater flow).

                Version 3.3 is included. The new version 4.0 is'nt
                running on LINUX.

        System requirements:

                at least a double speed CD-Reader
                486/33 recommended, better higher speed
                a minimum of 8Mb RAM, better 16Mb or more.
                approx. 100Mb for Linux
                approx. 10-35Mb for GRASS, using the CD-ROM
                approx. 200Mb, if installing GRASS on hd.
                approx 100Mb free space for temporay files
                a monitor with 1024 x 768, better 1280 x 1024 resolution
                a 17", better 19" monitor
                an accelerated graphics board, preferable VL or PCI

        e.g. my configuration:

                486DX2 80
                32 Mb RAM
                CD-reader Mitsumi FX-100
                               Toshiba XM3401B SCSI
                Adaptec 2842A SCSI-VL controller
                Micropolis 1598 1Gb SCSI-1 Hd
                Seagate Barracuda 32550 2,4Gb Fast SCSI-2 Hd
                ATI Ultra-Plus MACH 32 2Mb (ISA)
                Sony GDM 2070 19" Monitor
                HP-DAT

                running:
                libc 4.5.26
                Linux 1.2.7 kernel
                XFree 2.1.1
                Motif 1.2.4

        For Your convenience You should have the following additional software:

                xv an imageviewer, which also can convert imageformats
                gs ghostscript to preview and to print postscript files
                tcl/tk
                Mosaic to view the man-pages

        Nevertheless it will run on a 386 also, but a little
        bit slower.

        How is GRASS compiled?

                gcc 2.5.8
                libc 4.5.26
                Metrolink Motif 1.2.4
                XFree 2.1.1

        why gcc 2.5.8 and libc 4.5.26?
               I tried gcc > 2.6 and libc > 4.6 in February.
               There were bugs in gcc and libc. X/Motif
               programs were not running. So I switched back
               to gcc 2.5.8 and libc 4.5.26. Furthermore
               Metrolink Motif is compiled with gcc2.5.8.

         why XFree 2.1.1
               Motif 1.2 is based on X11R5
               Metrolink Motif is based on XFree2.1.1

        Why is GRASS linked statically, Why did'nt You save space in
        linking dynamically?

                To redistribute Motif programs they have to be linked
                statically. Do You have Motif?

                To be independent of future XFree and libc releases.

                There is enough space on the CD. So I think, it is better
                to be on the saver side.

     and...

     The GRASS-binaries will be runnable directly from CD, they are
     linked from hard-drive to the CD. Drivers for the digitizers
     and printers will be installed on the hard-drive. So it is
     possible to upgrade to newer programs or add binaries to the
     distribution.

     On CD is a tar.gz archive conaining GRASS to be installed directly
     on hard-disk for enhanced performance.

     The GRASS-program-libraries will be in the appropriate place, so
     You will be able to compile and link additional software.

     There will be no LINUX distribution included, so You should have
     a minimal LINUX distribution including X. The GRASS binaries,
     which are using X are statically linked, so it makes no difference in
     using XFree 2.1.x or XFree 3.x., but I'm not familiar with other
     X related problems, You might encounter, e.g. problems with fonts,
     app-defaults.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

       GRASS/XGRASS for LINUX on CD-ROM

                   Order Form

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Name : ..........................
Organisation : ..........................

Shipping Address : ..........................
                        ..........................
                        ..........................
                        ..........................
                        ..........................

Billing Addres : ..........................
                        ..........................
                        ..........................
                        ..........................

Phone Number : ..........................
E-Mail : ..........................

Shipping Method: I do not support UPS, because
                        of its behaviour against its
                        employees! So I will use the
                        Deutsche Post AG.

Payment Method :
                        Outside Germany:

                        International Money Order (Dollar cheque,
                        or other European currencies)
                        payable to:

                        Andreas Holz
                        c/o Loibl
                        Hoefener Str. 142
                        90431 Nuernberg
                        Germany

                        Bank:
                        Stadtsparkasse Nuernberg
                        Bank code : 760 501 01
                        Account No: 1128668

                        Inside Germany:
                        Ueberweisung auf obiges Konto

Price :
                        Outside Germany:

                        $100 one CD
                        (Discounts are available, please negotiate)

                        including shipment costs

                        (do You have to pay customs?, then I will
                        declare this CD as a present at our customs!)

                        Inside Germany:

                        DM 140,- einschliesslich Versand
                        (+ MwST)
                        (bei besonderen Fragen bitte Mail)
                        (Bei der Abnahme mehrerer CD sind Rabatte
                        moeglich)

Ordering: Please do not order befor I post the availability of
                        the CD!
                        Please do not pay, until You'll get the CD.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

                        I'll announce the CD in:
                        grassu mailing list
                        comp.os.linux.announce
                        comp.infosystems.gis
                        via mail to all known interested persons

P.S.: The CD-ROM manufacturer scheduled the CD for
                the 12th of June. I'll ship them as soon as possible.

P.P.S.: This is a private project. This CD might never be available
                at Your local book store or from professional CD-ROM
                distributor.

P.P.P.S.: This is a private project. I'm working on it in the evening
                or the night. It might be possible, I'll become a little bit
                tired in the night. perhaps there will be some delays.

With best regards

          Andreas Holz
          To my convenience please e-mail to
          holzandr@erls12.kwu.siemens.de in the future.

          Please do not forget Your e-mail address in Your mails!!!!!