[GeoNetwork-users] is ISO19139 schema complete ?

Jean_Pommier · January 19, 2009, 11:54am

Hi,

I'm sort of beginning with geonetwork.
I have to permit filling some extra information like price of the data,
contact for distribution for off-line data and some other fields that don't
seem to be in the current GN ISO19139 formular.
I may be wrong, but i believe they are part of the ISO19115. Have they been
removed from the ISO19139 spec ? Or is it just that the GN's ISO19139
profile is not complete ?
What shall i do to add these functionnalities ?
Thanks

Jean

Hockaday_John · January 20, 2009, 12:07am

Hi Jean,

I can only answer your questions regarding the ISO 19115 standard and ISO 19139 specification but not GN. Please see comments below:

Someone else will have to answer the rest.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Pommier (IGE) [mailto:jean.pommier@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 10:55 PM
To: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] is ISO19139 schema complete ?

Hi,

I'm sort of beginning with geonetwork.
I have to permit filling some extra information like price of
the data,
contact for distribution for off-line data and some other
fields that don't
seem to be in the current GN ISO19139 formular.
I may be wrong, but i believe they are part of the ISO19115.

Yes.
The 'fees' element is in the MD_StandardOrderProcess class.
The 'offLine' element is in the MD_DigitalTranserOptions class.
Both of the above elements, and many more, are in the MD_Distribution package.

Have they been
removed from the ISO19139 spec ?

I don't believe so. I have found all the above elements in the ./gmd/distribution.xsd XSD.

Or is it just that the GN's ISO19139
profile is not complete ?
What shall i do to add these functionnalities ?

I can't answer these latter questions.

John

Thanks

Jean
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Jean_Pommier · January 20, 2009, 6:54am

Thank you John !

I didn't find it in the schemas.
OK then, i'll have to looks a bit more in the XSD to see where it should
appera in the GN interface : i still can't find it...
Thank you for your help !

Jean

2009/1/20 <John.Hockaday@anonymised.com>

Hi Jean,

I can only answer your questions regarding the ISO 19115 standard and ISO
19139 specification but not GN. Please see comments below:

Someone else will have to answer the rest.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean Pommier (IGE) [mailto:jean.pommier@anonymised.com]
> Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 10:55 PM
> To: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] is ISO19139 schema complete ?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm sort of beginning with geonetwork.
> I have to permit filling some extra information like price of
> the data,
> contact for distribution for off-line data and some other
> fields that don't
> seem to be in the current GN ISO19139 formular.
> I may be wrong, but i believe they are part of the ISO19115.

Yes.
The 'fees' element is in the MD_StandardOrderProcess class.
The 'offLine' element is in the MD_DigitalTranserOptions class.
Both of the above elements, and many more, are in the MD_Distribution
package.

> Have they been
> removed from the ISO19139 spec ?

I don't believe so. I have found all the above elements in the
./gmd/distribution.xsd XSD.

> Or is it just that the GN's ISO19139
> profile is not complete ?
> What shall i do to add these functionnalities ?

I can't answer these latter questions.

John

> Thanks
>
> Jean
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ticheler · January 20, 2009, 8:36am

Hi Jean,
The schemas have not been modified, so the fields should be there. If you can't find them in the default view, use the advanced view and you should normally be able to add them from there. If you still can't find them, try to make the required part of the document in XML format and use the XML edit view to update the XML file. That should then also make the fields useable in the advanced view and possibly in the default view.
Ciao,
Jeroen

On Jan 20, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Jean Pommier (IGE) wrote:

Thank you John !

I didn't find it in the schemas.
OK then, i'll have to looks a bit more in the XSD to see where it should
appera in the GN interface : i still can't find it...
Thank you for your help !

Jean

2009/1/20 <John.Hockaday@anonymised.com>

Hi Jean,

I can only answer your questions regarding the ISO 19115 standard and ISO
19139 specification but not GN. Please see comments below:

Someone else will have to answer the rest.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Pommier (IGE) [mailto:jean.pommier@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 10:55 PM
To: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] is ISO19139 schema complete ?

Hi,

I'm sort of beginning with geonetwork.
I have to permit filling some extra information like price of
the data,
contact for distribution for off-line data and some other
fields that don't
seem to be in the current GN ISO19139 formular.
I may be wrong, but i believe they are part of the ISO19115.

Yes.
The 'fees' element is in the MD_StandardOrderProcess class.
The 'offLine' element is in the MD_DigitalTranserOptions class.
Both of the above elements, and many more, are in the MD_Distribution
package.

Have they been
removed from the ISO19139 spec ?

I don't believe so. I have found all the above elements in the
./gmd/distribution.xsd XSD.

Or is it just that the GN's ISO19139
profile is not complete ?
What shall i do to add these functionnalities ?

I can't answer these latter questions.

John

Thanks

Jean
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Jean_Pommier · January 20, 2009, 2:21pm

Hi Jeroen,

creating a new iso19139 metadata (using vector profile), the above
mentionned parts ('fees' and so on) are not present, even in the xml view. I
can find the <gmd:MD_Distribution> part, but it does not provide
MD_StandardOrderProcess sections. In the advanced view neither.
Do you mean i should add it manually in the xml view, and THEN, it will be
displayed in the other views ?

If yes, so, what is the pb ? I believe there are things I still don't
understand : where do the base metadata come from ? I believed it was an xml
squeletton automatically generated by the xsd specifications. But i suppose
i'm wrong. So where is it stored, basically ? I mean, the templates (iso
19139 for vector, iso 19139 for raster, dublin-core and fgdc-std) ?
Thanks

Jean

2009/1/20 Jeroen Ticheler <Jeroen.Ticheler@anonymised.com>

Hi Jean,
The schemas have not been modified, so the fields should be there. If you
can't find them in the default view, use the advanced view and you should
normally be able to add them from there. If you still can't find them, try
to make the required part of the document in XML format and use the XML edit
view to update the XML file. That should then also make the fields useable
in the advanced view and possibly in the default view.
Ciao,
Jeroen

On Jan 20, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Jean Pommier (IGE) wrote:

Thank you John !

I didn't find it in the schemas.
OK then, i'll have to looks a bit more in the XSD to see where it should
appera in the GN interface : i still can't find it...
Thank you for your help !

Jean

2009/1/20 <John.Hockaday@anonymised.com>

Hi Jean,

I can only answer your questions regarding the ISO 19115 standard and ISO
19139 specification but not GN. Please see comments below:

Someone else will have to answer the rest.

-----Original Message-----

From: Jean Pommier (IGE) [mailto:jean.pommier@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 10:55 PM
To: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] is ISO19139 schema complete ?

Hi,

I'm sort of beginning with geonetwork.
I have to permit filling some extra information like price of
the data,
contact for distribution for off-line data and some other
fields that don't
seem to be in the current GN ISO19139 formular.
I may be wrong, but i believe they are part of the ISO19115.

Yes.
The 'fees' element is in the MD_StandardOrderProcess class.
The 'offLine' element is in the MD_DigitalTranserOptions class.
Both of the above elements, and many more, are in the MD_Distribution
package.

Have they been

removed from the ISO19139 spec ?

I don't believe so. I have found all the above elements in the
./gmd/distribution.xsd XSD.

Or is it just that the GN's ISO19139

profile is not complete ?
What shall i do to add these functionnalities ?

I can't answer these latter questions.

John

Thanks

Jean
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ajs6f · January 20, 2009, 2:26pm

M. Pommier--

Have you examined the material at:

http://geonetwork-opensource.org/documentation/how-to/geonetwork-v2-2-shema-template-howto

? It is wonderfully helpful in understanding how the stylesheets, schemas, and associated XML files work together to create what the user sees on the screen. After reading that document, I was able to install a totally new, non-ISO schema/template into a GeoNetwork instance in a matter of hours.

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On Jan 20, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Jean Pommier (IGE) wrote:

Hi Jeroen,

creating a new iso19139 metadata (using vector profile), the above
mentionned parts ('fees' and so on) are not present, even in the xml view. I
can find the <gmd:MD_Distribution> part, but it does not provide
MD_StandardOrderProcess sections. In the advanced view neither.
Do you mean i should add it manually in the xml view, and THEN, it will be
displayed in the other views ?

If yes, so, what is the pb ? I believe there are things I still don't
understand : where do the base metadata come from ? I believed it was an xml
squeletton automatically generated by the xsd specifications. But i suppose
i'm wrong. So where is it stored, basically ? I mean, the templates (iso
19139 for vector, iso 19139 for raster, dublin-core and fgdc-std) ?
Thanks

Jean

2009/1/20 Jeroen Ticheler <Jeroen.Ticheler@anonymised.com>

Hi Jean,
The schemas have not been modified, so the fields should be there. If you
can't find them in the default view, use the advanced view and you should
normally be able to add them from there. If you still can't find them, try
to make the required part of the document in XML format and use the XML edit
view to update the XML file. That should then also make the fields useable
in the advanced view and possibly in the default view.
Ciao,
Jeroen

On Jan 20, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Jean Pommier (IGE) wrote:

Thank you John !

I didn't find it in the schemas.
OK then, i'll have to looks a bit more in the XSD to see where it should
appera in the GN interface : i still can't find it...
Thank you for your help !

Jean

2009/1/20 <John.Hockaday@anonymised.com>

Hi Jean,

I can only answer your questions regarding the ISO 19115 standard and ISO
19139 specification but not GN. Please see comments below:

Someone else will have to answer the rest.

-----Original Message-----

From: Jean Pommier (IGE) [mailto:jean.pommier@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 10:55 PM
To: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] is ISO19139 schema complete ?

Hi,

I'm sort of beginning with geonetwork.
I have to permit filling some extra information like price of
the data,
contact for distribution for off-line data and some other
fields that don't
seem to be in the current GN ISO19139 formular.
I may be wrong, but i believe they are part of the ISO19115.

Yes.
The 'fees' element is in the MD_StandardOrderProcess class.
The 'offLine' element is in the MD_DigitalTranserOptions class.
Both of the above elements, and many more, are in the MD_Distribution
package.

Have they been

removed from the ISO19139 spec ?

I don't believe so. I have found all the above elements in the
./gmd/distribution.xsd XSD.

Or is it just that the GN's ISO19139

profile is not complete ?
What shall i do to add these functionnalities ?

I can't answer these latter questions.

John

Thanks

Jean
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Jean_Pommier · January 20, 2009, 3:12pm

Yes of course !
But I may have missed some elements of information ?
I'm going to read it deeply another time...
Thanks,

Jean

2009/1/20 ajs6f <ajs6f@anonymised.com>

M. Pommier--

Have you examined the material at:

http://geonetwork-opensource.org/documentation/how-to/geonetwork-v2-2-shema-template-howto

? It is wonderfully helpful in understanding how the stylesheets,
schemas, and associated XML files work together to create what the
user sees on the screen. After reading that document, I was able to
install a totally new, non-ISO schema/template into a GeoNetwork
instance in a matter of hours.

---
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the University of Virginia Library

On Jan 20, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Jean Pommier (IGE) wrote:

> Hi Jeroen,
>
> creating a new iso19139 metadata (using vector profile), the above
> mentionned parts ('fees' and so on) are not present, even in the xml
> view. I
> can find the <gmd:MD_Distribution> part, but it does not provide
> MD_StandardOrderProcess sections. In the advanced view neither.
> Do you mean i should add it manually in the xml view, and THEN, it
> will be
> displayed in the other views ?
>
> If yes, so, what is the pb ? I believe there are things I still don't
> understand : where do the base metadata come from ? I believed it
> was an xml
> squeletton automatically generated by the xsd specifications. But i
> suppose
> i'm wrong. So where is it stored, basically ? I mean, the templates
> (iso
> 19139 for vector, iso 19139 for raster, dublin-core and fgdc-std) ?
> Thanks
>
> Jean
>
> 2009/1/20 Jeroen Ticheler <Jeroen.Ticheler@anonymised.com>
>
>> Hi Jean,
>> The schemas have not been modified, so the fields should be there.
>> If you
>> can't find them in the default view, use the advanced view and you
>> should
>> normally be able to add them from there. If you still can't find
>> them, try
>> to make the required part of the document in XML format and use the
>> XML edit
>> view to update the XML file. That should then also make the fields
>> useable
>> in the advanced view and possibly in the default view.
>> Ciao,
>> Jeroen
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Jean Pommier (IGE) wrote:
>>
>> Thank you John !
>>>
>>> I didn't find it in the schemas.
>>> OK then, i'll have to looks a bit more in the XSD to see where it
>>> should
>>> appera in the GN interface : i still can't find it...
>>> Thank you for your help !
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> 2009/1/20 <John.Hockaday@anonymised.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Jean,
>>>>
>>>> I can only answer your questions regarding the ISO 19115 standard
>>>> and ISO
>>>> 19139 specification but not GN. Please see comments below:
>>>>
>>>> Someone else will have to answer the rest.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jean Pommier (IGE) [mailto:jean.pommier@anonymised.com]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 10:55 PM
>>>>> To: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>> Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] is ISO19139 schema complete ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sort of beginning with geonetwork.
>>>>> I have to permit filling some extra information like price of
>>>>> the data,
>>>>> contact for distribution for off-line data and some other
>>>>> fields that don't
>>>>> seem to be in the current GN ISO19139 formular.
>>>>> I may be wrong, but i believe they are part of the ISO19115.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>> The 'fees' element is in the MD_StandardOrderProcess class.
>>>> The 'offLine' element is in the MD_DigitalTranserOptions class.
>>>> Both of the above elements, and many more, are in the
>>>> MD_Distribution
>>>> package.
>>>>
>>>> Have they been
>>>>> removed from the ISO19139 spec ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe so. I have found all the above elements in the
>>>> ./gmd/distribution.xsd XSD.
>>>>
>>>> Or is it just that the GN's ISO19139
>>>>> profile is not complete ?
>>>>> What shall i do to add these functionnalities ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can't answer these latter questions.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean
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mbcanal · February 16, 2009, 9:47am

Hi everyone

I am a french starting working with ISO 19139
So Sorry for my poor english

Where did you download your xds files for ISO 19139 ?

Because I downloaded a version on
http://eden.ign.fr/xsd/isotc211/iso19115p2/20080407/ISO19139schemas-20080407.zip

And when i open /gmd/metadataentity.xsd, XML Spy that the schema is not
valid.

So I feel lost and alone

Can you help please ?

Michel

John.Hockaday wrote:

Hi Jean,

I can only answer your questions regarding the ISO 19115 standard and ISO
19139 specification but not GN. Please see comments below:

Someone else will have to answer the rest.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Pommier (IGE) [mailto:jean.pommier@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 10:55 PM
To: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] is ISO19139 schema complete ?

Hi,

I'm sort of beginning with geonetwork.
I have to permit filling some extra information like price of
the data,
contact for distribution for off-line data and some other
fields that don't
seem to be in the current GN ISO19139 formular.
I may be wrong, but i believe they are part of the ISO19115.

Yes.
The 'fees' element is in the MD_StandardOrderProcess class.
The 'offLine' element is in the MD_DigitalTranserOptions class.
Both of the above elements, and many more, are in the MD_Distribution
package.

Have they been
removed from the ISO19139 spec ?

I don't believe so. I have found all the above elements in the
./gmd/distribution.xsd XSD.

Or is it just that the GN's ISO19139
profile is not complete ?
What shall i do to add these functionnalities ?

I can't answer these latter questions.

John

Thanks

Jean
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ajs6f · February 16, 2009, 2:42pm

I can tell you that if you have GeoNetwork installed, you will find schema files for ISO19139 in:

YOUR_GEONETWORK_HOME/xml/schemas/iso19139/

and these may be the ones you want to use because they are the ones that GeoNetwork is using.

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On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:47 AM, mbcanal wrote:

Hi everyone

I am a french starting working with ISO 19139
So Sorry for my poor english

Where did you download your xds files for ISO 19139 ?

Because I downloaded a version on
http://eden.ign.fr/xsd/isotc211/iso19115p2/20080407/ISO19139schemas-20080407.zip

And when i open /gmd/metadataentity.xsd, XML Spy that the schema is not
valid.

So I feel lost and alone

Can you help please ?

Michel

John.Hockaday wrote:

Hi Jean,

I can only answer your questions regarding the ISO 19115 standard and ISO
19139 specification but not GN. Please see comments below:

Someone else will have to answer the rest.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Pommier (IGE) [mailto:jean.pommier@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 10:55 PM
To: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] is ISO19139 schema complete ?

Hi,

I'm sort of beginning with geonetwork.
I have to permit filling some extra information like price of
the data,
contact for distribution for off-line data and some other
fields that don't
seem to be in the current GN ISO19139 formular.
I may be wrong, but i believe they are part of the ISO19115.

Yes.
The 'fees' element is in the MD_StandardOrderProcess class.
The 'offLine' element is in the MD_DigitalTranserOptions class.
Both of the above elements, and many more, are in the MD_Distribution
package.

Have they been
removed from the ISO19139 spec ?

I don't believe so. I have found all the above elements in the
./gmd/distribution.xsd XSD.

Or is it just that the GN's ISO19139
profile is not complete ?
What shall i do to add these functionnalities ?

I can't answer these latter questions.

John

Thanks

Jean
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