Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC with deadline soon

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Hi,

I was contacted to advertise the idea of organizing a
Free Software GIS/Geodata/OSGeo session at

Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC

While 2008 is far away, the deadline for proposing sessions
is end of *this* month. From a draft proposal by Henning Lorenz
I have made a wiki page:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_at_IGC2008

My name therein is a placeholder so far. We should
now discuss if and how to participate and improve the
Wiki page (I assume OSGeo presence there).

Best,

Markus
--
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http://www.osgeo.org/

2

Hi again on this issue,

the problem with IGC is that they want an abstract now for 2008.
AFAIK some OSGeo members have already been to an IGC
event, I don't have experience yet.

One interesting issue is: all the petroleum industry will be there,
I heard that they have 8000 (!) participants. See the excursions they
offer - from Norway to Greenland and Iceland...:
http://www.33igc.org/coco/excursions/default.aspx

But the fees are a bit prohibitive for me (Full-conference EUR 600/
half-conference EUR 450). With good negotiation we may get
reduced entry, and/or workshop organizers don't pay (no idea).

In any case: a motivation for OSGeo presence is fundraising there :slight_smile:

cheers
Markus

On 8/19/06, Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I was contacted to advertise the idea of organizing a
Free Software GIS/Geodata/OSGeo session at

Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC

While 2008 is far away, the deadline for proposing sessions
is end of *this* month. From a draft proposal by Henning Lorenz
I have made a wiki page:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_at_IGC2008

My name therein is a placeholder so far. We should
now discuss if and how to participate and improve the
Wiki page (I assume OSGeo presence there).

Best,

Markus
--
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
http://www.osgeo.org/

--
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3

<rant (not directed at Markus)>
Am I missing something -- a *TWO YEAR* lead time for planning a session?

If someone wants to take the lead on this -- like Markus -- and propose
an open source session, I'm sure that OSGeo would be willing in general
to take it up: but who knows what OSGeo will be like in two years? And
realistically I don't see any action being taken until sometime late
next year or so. We have enough possible events to worry about in the
coming months.
</rant>

-mpg

-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Neteler [mailto:neteler.osgeo@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:36 AM
To: OSGeo-discuss; OSGeo-VisCom
Subject: [VisCom] Re: Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd
IGC with deadline soon

Hi again on this issue,

the problem with IGC is that they want an abstract now for 2008.
AFAIK some OSGeo members have already been to an IGC
event, I don't have experience yet.

One interesting issue is: all the petroleum industry will be there,
I heard that they have 8000 (!) participants. See the excursions they
offer - from Norway to Greenland and Iceland...:
http://www.33igc.org/coco/excursions/default.aspx

But the fees are a bit prohibitive for me (Full-conference EUR 600/
half-conference EUR 450). With good negotiation we may get
reduced entry, and/or workshop organizers don't pay (no idea).

In any case: a motivation for OSGeo presence is fundraising there :slight_smile:

cheers
Markus

On 8/19/06, Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was contacted to advertise the idea of organizing a
> Free Software GIS/Geodata/OSGeo session at
>
> Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC
>
> While 2008 is far away, the deadline for proposing sessions
> is end of *this* month. From a draft proposal by Henning Lorenz
> I have made a wiki page:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_at_IGC2008
>
> My name therein is a placeholder so far. We should
> now discuss if and how to participate and improve the
> Wiki page (I assume OSGeo presence there).
>
> Best,
>
> Markus
> --
> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> http://www.osgeo.org/
>

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Michael,

currently we are only talking about two (or so) abstracts to
get into it. Then I don't foresee action for the next many months.
I don't have the slightest idea why they plan 2 years ahead but
this is how it works for IGC.

I just thought to get the abstracts written on the Wiki and submit
them, nothing else. :slight_smile:

Markus

On 8/22/06, Michael P. Gerlek <mpg@lizardtech.com> wrote:

<rant (not directed at Markus)>
Am I missing something -- a *TWO YEAR* lead time for planning a session?

If someone wants to take the lead on this -- like Markus -- and propose
an open source session, I'm sure that OSGeo would be willing in general
to take it up: but who knows what OSGeo will be like in two years? And
realistically I don't see any action being taken until sometime late
next year or so. We have enough possible events to worry about in the
coming months.
</rant>

-mpg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Markus Neteler [mailto:neteler.osgeo@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:36 AM
> To: OSGeo-discuss; OSGeo-VisCom
> Subject: [VisCom] Re: Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd
> IGC with deadline soon
>
> Hi again on this issue,
>
> the problem with IGC is that they want an abstract now for 2008.
> AFAIK some OSGeo members have already been to an IGC
> event, I don't have experience yet.
>
> One interesting issue is: all the petroleum industry will be there,
> I heard that they have 8000 (!) participants. See the excursions they
> offer - from Norway to Greenland and Iceland...:
> http://www.33igc.org/coco/excursions/default.aspx
>
> But the fees are a bit prohibitive for me (Full-conference EUR 600/
> half-conference EUR 450). With good negotiation we may get
> reduced entry, and/or workshop organizers don't pay (no idea).
>
> In any case: a motivation for OSGeo presence is fundraising there :slight_smile:
>
> cheers
> Markus
>
> On 8/19/06, Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was contacted to advertise the idea of organizing a
> > Free Software GIS/Geodata/OSGeo session at
> >
> > Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC
> >
> > While 2008 is far away, the deadline for proposing sessions
> > is end of *this* month. From a draft proposal by Henning Lorenz
> > I have made a wiki page:
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_at_IGC2008
> >
> > My name therein is a placeholder so far. We should
> > now discuss if and how to participate and improve the
> > Wiki page (I assume OSGeo presence there).
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Markus
> > --
> > Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> > http://www.osgeo.org/
> >
>
> --
> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> http://www.osgeo.org/
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Agreed -- please go ahead and submit it.

-mpg

-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Neteler [mailto:neteler.osgeo@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:28 AM
To: dev@visibilitycommittee.osgeo.org
Cc: OSGeo-discuss
Subject: Re: [VisCom] Re: Geoscience World Congress 2008 -
33rd IGC with deadline soon

Michael,

currently we are only talking about two (or so) abstracts to
get into it. Then I don't foresee action for the next many months.
I don't have the slightest idea why they plan 2 years ahead but
this is how it works for IGC.

I just thought to get the abstracts written on the Wiki and submit
them, nothing else. :slight_smile:

Markus

On 8/22/06, Michael P. Gerlek <mpg@lizardtech.com> wrote:
> <rant (not directed at Markus)>
> Am I missing something -- a *TWO YEAR* lead time for
planning a session?
>
> If someone wants to take the lead on this -- like Markus --
and propose
> an open source session, I'm sure that OSGeo would be
willing in general
> to take it up: but who knows what OSGeo will be like in two
years? And
> realistically I don't see any action being taken until sometime late
> next year or so. We have enough possible events to worry
about in the
> coming months.
> </rant>
>
> -mpg
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Markus Neteler [mailto:neteler.osgeo@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:36 AM
> > To: OSGeo-discuss; OSGeo-VisCom
> > Subject: [VisCom] Re: Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd
> > IGC with deadline soon
> >
> > Hi again on this issue,
> >
> > the problem with IGC is that they want an abstract now for 2008.
> > AFAIK some OSGeo members have already been to an IGC
> > event, I don't have experience yet.
> >
> > One interesting issue is: all the petroleum industry will
be there,
> > I heard that they have 8000 (!) participants. See the
excursions they
> > offer - from Norway to Greenland and Iceland...:
> > http://www.33igc.org/coco/excursions/default.aspx
> >
> > But the fees are a bit prohibitive for me
(Full-conference EUR 600/
> > half-conference EUR 450). With good negotiation we may get
> > reduced entry, and/or workshop organizers don't pay (no idea).
> >
> > In any case: a motivation for OSGeo presence is
fundraising there :slight_smile:
> >
> > cheers
> > Markus
> >
> > On 8/19/06, Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I was contacted to advertise the idea of organizing a
> > > Free Software GIS/Geodata/OSGeo session at
> > >
> > > Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC
> > >
> > > While 2008 is far away, the deadline for proposing sessions
> > > is end of *this* month. From a draft proposal by Henning Lorenz
> > > I have made a wiki page:
> > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_at_IGC2008
> > >
> > > My name therein is a placeholder so far. We should
> > > now discuss if and how to participate and improve the
> > > Wiki page (I assume OSGeo presence there).
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Markus
> > > --
> > > Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> > > http://www.osgeo.org/
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> > http://www.osgeo.org/
> >
> >
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Markus,

I assume the information that is needed is to fill in the questionnaire of the congress. I'm not familiar with their vocabulary, but relevant options are probably either symposium or a workshop. Perhaps a "topical symposium", where the topic is free software. If the proposal is accepted by organizers, the next task would then be to try to get people (scientists mainly) submit papers to the symposium. The questionnaire seems not to expect very long descriptions, what's now in wiki is the right size I think.

I haven't been to IGC before and I haven't worked in the field but it does fall under my current job description. I'd be interested to co-convene the symposium.

Ari

Markus Neteler kirjoitti:

Hi,

I was contacted to advertise the idea of organizing a
Free Software GIS/Geodata/OSGeo session at

Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC

While 2008 is far away, the deadline for proposing sessions
is end of *this* month. From a draft proposal by Henning Lorenz
I have made a wiki page:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_at_IGC2008

My name therein is a placeholder so far. We should
now discuss if and how to participate and improve the
Wiki page (I assume OSGeo presence there).

Best,

Markus

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Kartografia ja Geoinformatiikka / Cartography and Geoinformatics
Teknillinen Korkeakoulu / Helsinki University of Technology
POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland
Email: ari.jolma at tkk.fi URL: http://www.tkk.fi/~jolma

7

Ari is right in his interpretation, I have co-convened a
Topical symposium: Synergy of GIS technology and the Earth Sciences: current state and future prospects,
at 32 Int. Geological Congress, Florence, Italy, 2004.
We had several FOSS4G contributions and it was not too difficult to organize, for as long as you know
enough people in geosciences who do GIS and who can come to present.
Otherwise, there wasn't much GIS given the number of participants (but 2008 may be different).
I am not sure whether I will have resources to go, but I can offer some advice and help if somebody
wants to take a lead.

Helena

On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:37 PM, Ari Jolma wrote:

Markus,

I assume the information that is needed is to fill in the questionnaire of the congress. I'm not familiar with their vocabulary, but relevant options are probably either symposium or a workshop. Perhaps a "topical symposium", where the topic is free software. If the proposal is accepted by organizers, the next task would then be to try to get people (scientists mainly) submit papers to the symposium. The questionnaire seems not to expect very long descriptions, what's now in wiki is the right size I think.

I haven't been to IGC before and I haven't worked in the field but it does fall under my current job description. I'd be interested to co-convene the symposium.

Ari

Markus Neteler kirjoitti:

Hi,

I was contacted to advertise the idea of organizing a
Free Software GIS/Geodata/OSGeo session at

Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC

While 2008 is far away, the deadline for proposing sessions
is end of *this* month. From a draft proposal by Henning Lorenz
I have made a wiki page:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_at_IGC2008

My name therein is a placeholder so far. We should
now discuss if and how to participate and improve the
Wiki page (I assume OSGeo presence there).

Best,

Markus

--
Prof. Ari Jolma
Kartografia ja Geoinformatiikka / Cartography and Geoinformatics
Teknillinen Korkeakoulu / Helsinki University of Technology
POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland
Email: ari.jolma at tkk.fi URL: http://www.tkk.fi/~jolma

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On 22-Aug-06, at 4:17 PM, Helena Mitasova wrote:

Ari is right in his interpretation, I have co-convened a
Topical symposium: Synergy of GIS technology and the Earth Sciences: current state and future prospects,

It sure would be nice to find a 'niche' topic for a symposium that isn't simply 'free software', as many may not know they should care about GFOSS. If you can put forward a topic that is more enticing to the larger group, I'm sure you could get a greater turnout?

Just guessing,
Tyler

9

On 8/23/06, Tyler Mitchell <tylermitchell@shaw.ca> wrote:

On 22-Aug-06, at 4:17 PM, Helena Mitasova wrote:

> Ari is right in his interpretation, I have co-convened a
> Topical symposium: Synergy of GIS technology and the Earth
> Sciences: current state and future prospects,

It sure would be nice to find a 'niche' topic for a symposium that
isn't simply 'free software', as many may not know they should care
about GFOSS. If you can put forward a topic that is more enticing to
the larger group, I'm sure you could get a greater turnout?

I fully agree, Tyler. It should be data aggregation, analysis,
whatever, done with the OSGeo stack.

Markus

10

On 8/22/06, Ari Jolma <ari.jolma@tkk.fi> wrote:

Markus,

I assume the information that is needed is to fill in the questionnaire
of the congress. I'm not familiar with their vocabulary, but relevant
options are probably either symposium or a workshop. Perhaps a "topical
symposium", where the topic is free software. If the proposal is
accepted by organizers, the next task would then be to try to get people
(scientists mainly) submit papers to the symposium. The questionnaire
seems not to expect very long descriptions, what's now in wiki is the
right size I think.

I haven't been to IGC before and I haven't worked in the field but it
does fall under my current job description. I'd be interested to
co-convene the symposium.

Ari,

I would be more than happy if you could take the lead. I would
contribute as much as possible of course.

thanks,
Markus

11

“Free public data” would probably be a good thing to add into the mix too.

Heck, by the time 2008 rolls around we should have many, many terabytes down at telascience :slight_smile:

-mpg

From: Markus Neteler [mailto:neteler.osgeo@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 8/22/2006 11:15 PM
To: dev@visibilitycommittee.osgeo.org
Cc: discuss@mail.osgeo.org; henning.lorenz@geo.uu.se
Subject: Re: [VisCom] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC with deadline soon

On 8/23/06, Tyler Mitchell tylermitchell@shaw.ca wrote:

On 22-Aug-06, at 4:17 PM, Helena Mitasova wrote:

Ari is right in his interpretation, I have co-convened a
Topical symposium: Synergy of GIS technology and the Earth
Sciences: current state and future prospects,

It sure would be nice to find a ‘niche’ topic for a symposium that
isn’t simply ‘free software’, as many may not know they should care
about GFOSS. If you can put forward a topic that is more enticing to
the larger group, I’m sure you could get a greater turnout?

I fully agree, Tyler. It should be data aggregation, analysis,
whatever, done with the OSGeo stack.

Markus

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On 8/23/06, Michael P. Gerlek <mpg@lizardtech.com> wrote:

"Free public data" would probably be a good thing to add into the mix too.

This is already on the Wiki page, but lacking an abstract.

Heck, by the time 2008 rolls around we should have many, many terabytes down
at telascience :slight_smile:

Yes!!

Markus

13

What about something with a focus on sharing... I find this to be something of most interest in the people I talk to. I agree, the Free Software slant doesn't click so much with established geomatics organization, but provide them a means to share their data without the need for duplication and they are all ears.

Just my thoughts.

Alain Grignon
Landslide GIS Specialist / Spécialiste SIG en glissements de terrains
Geological Survey of Canada / Commission géologique du Canada
601 Booth st. / 601 rue Booth
Ottawa, Ont.
Tel: (613) 947-8773
http://landslides.nrcan.gc.ca/

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From: Markus Neteler [mailto:neteler.osgeo@gmail.com]
Sent: August 23, 2006 2:15 AM
To: dev@visibilitycommittee.osgeo.org
Cc: discuss@mail.osgeo.org; henning.lorenz@geo.uu.se
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [VisCom] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geoscience World Congress 2008 - 33rd IGC with deadline soon

On 8/23/06, Tyler Mitchell <tylermitchell@shaw.ca> wrote:

On 22-Aug-06, at 4:17 PM, Helena Mitasova wrote:

> Ari is right in his interpretation, I have co-convened a Topical
> symposium: Synergy of GIS technology and the Earth
> Sciences: current state and future prospects,

It sure would be nice to find a 'niche' topic for a symposium that
isn't simply 'free software', as many may not know they should care
about GFOSS. If you can put forward a topic that is more enticing to
the larger group, I'm sure you could get a greater turnout?

I fully agree, Tyler. It should be data aggregation, analysis, whatever, done with the OSGeo stack.

Markus

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