[Geoserver-devel] File release system on sourceforge

Hi,
sourceforge keeps on updating the file releases system making it every
time a little (or a lot) worse than it already was.

The situation on sf pages does not look good:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/files/ -> wrong order, 1.3.0 on top

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/ -> Download now geoserver-2.0-beta2-chart...
"Wow, see, they got a 2.0 beta2 chart there!"

I know Jody fixed a bit the files page for GeoTools:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/geotools/files/
but the situation is still quite ugly

Time to ...:
- complain out loud with sf?
- move to greener pastures?
- just forget about it and hope that everybody will
   just use the geoserver.org links?

Cheers
Andrea

--
Andrea Aime
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers.

Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi,
sourceforge keeps on updating the file releases system making it every
time a little (or a lot) worse than it already was.

The situation on sf pages does not look good:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/files/ -> wrong order, 1.3.0 on top

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/ -> Download now geoserver-2.0-beta2-chart...
"Wow, see, they got a 2.0 beta2 chart there!"

I know Jody fixed a bit the files page for GeoTools:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/geotools/files/
but the situation is still quite ugly

Time to ...:
- complain out loud with sf?
- move to greener pastures?
- just forget about it and hope that everybody will
   just use the geoserver.org links?

I would definitely be interested in looking at alternatives to sf. Other than the annoying fact that they change things every time we release, there is the file release system itself. Releasing the dozen artifacts we have is very tedious having to submit for every artifact, scroll down the page to find the next and continue 12 times.

There has to be a more streamlined way to do this :slight_smile: Does anyone have any alternatives to sf in mind?

Cheers
Andrea

--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.

Justin Deoliveira ha scritto:

Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi,
sourceforge keeps on updating the file releases system making it every
time a little (or a lot) worse than it already was.

The situation on sf pages does not look good:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/files/ -> wrong order, 1.3.0 on top

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/ -> Download now geoserver-2.0-beta2-chart...
"Wow, see, they got a 2.0 beta2 chart there!"

I know Jody fixed a bit the files page for GeoTools:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/geotools/files/
but the situation is still quite ugly

Time to ...:
- complain out loud with sf?
- move to greener pastures?
- just forget about it and hope that everybody will
   just use the geoserver.org links?

I would definitely be interested in looking at alternatives to sf. Other than the annoying fact that they change things every time we release, there is the file release system itself. Releasing the dozen artifacts we have is very tedious having to submit for every artifact, scroll down the page to find the next and continue 12 times.

Yup, "scp *.zip user@anonymised.com:path" should be all that's needed to ready
the files for download. And then we link them from our home page.

There has to be a more streamlined way to do this :slight_smile: Does anyone have any alternatives to sf in mind?

OSGEO? :wink:
Cheers
Andrea

--
Andrea Aime
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers.

Andrea Aime wrote:

Justin Deoliveira ha scritto:
  

Andrea Aime wrote:
    

Hi,
sourceforge keeps on updating the file releases system making it every
time a little (or a lot) worse than it already was.

The situation on sf pages does not look good:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/files/ -> wrong order, 1.3.0 on top

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/ -> Download now geoserver-2.0-beta2-chart...
"Wow, see, they got a 2.0 beta2 chart there!"

I know Jody fixed a bit the files page for GeoTools:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/geotools/files/
but the situation is still quite ugly

Time to ...:
- complain out loud with sf?
- move to greener pastures?
- just forget about it and hope that everybody will
   just use the geoserver.org links?
      

I would definitely be interested in looking at alternatives to sf. Other than the annoying fact that they change things every time we release, there is the file release system itself. Releasing the dozen artifacts we have is very tedious having to submit for every artifact, scroll down the page to find the next and continue 12 times.
    
Yup, "scp *.zip user@anonymised.com:path" should be all that's needed to ready
the files for download. And then we link them from our home page.

There has to be a more streamlined way to do this :slight_smile: Does anyone have any alternatives to sf in mind?
    
OSGEO? :wink:
Cheers
Andrea
  
All of SourceForge is currently struggling, apparently yesterday you couldnt even create directories.

I wouldn't mind giving them another month or two to figure out their system. The new one could potentially be better than all the pulldowns we had to deal with previously, and maybe we can reorganize things into an archive so that only the two most relevant releases are visible. Wouldn't do it right now though.

It's somewhat nice to think that they have a huge archive of all our stuff that it is actually somewhat difficult to lose due to the way it's distributed. Not doubting OSGeo's reliability, but I would definitely not trust S3 with this.

-Arne

--
Arne Kepp
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers

The "new" file system manager let me connect with sftp and upload
files directly to the final spot. It was much nicer.

Jody

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Justin Deoliveira<jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:

Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi,
sourceforge keeps on updating the file releases system making it every
time a little (or a lot) worse than it already was.

The situation on sf pages does not look good:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/files/ -> wrong order, 1.3.0
on top

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/ -> Download now
geoserver-2.0-beta2-chart...
"Wow, see, they got a 2.0 beta2 chart there!"

I know Jody fixed a bit the files page for GeoTools:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/geotools/files/
but the situation is still quite ugly

Time to ...:
- complain out loud with sf?
- move to greener pastures?
- just forget about it and hope that everybody will
just use the geoserver.org links?

I would definitely be interested in looking at alternatives to sf. Other
than the annoying fact that they change things every time we release,
there is the file release system itself. Releasing the dozen artifacts
we have is very tedious having to submit for every artifact, scroll down
the page to find the next and continue 12 times.

There has to be a more streamlined way to do this :slight_smile: Does anyone have
any alternatives to sf in mind?

Cheers
Andrea

--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.

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Jody Garnett ha scritto:

The "new" file system manager let me connect with sftp and upload
files directly to the final spot. It was much nicer.

You mean it's not necessary anymore to point, click and submit 12 times
(once for each file to declare the file type) in order to have files
up?

Cheers
Andrea

--
Andrea Aime
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers.

Andrea Aime wrote:

Jody Garnett ha scritto:
  

The "new" file system manager let me connect with sftp and upload
files directly to the final spot. It was much nicer.
    
You mean it's not necessary anymore to point, click and submit 12 times
(once for each file to declare the file type) in order to have files
up?

Cheers
Andrea

Nope, just pick a default download for each platform, the windows installer for Windows and the bin for the others.

That's why I'm cutting it some slack too :slight_smile:

-Arne

--
Arne Kepp
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers

Andrea Aime wrote:

Jody Garnett ha scritto:

The "new" file system manager let me connect with sftp and upload
files directly to the final spot. It was much nicer.

You mean it's not necessary anymore to point, click and submit 12 times
(once for each file to declare the file type) in order to have files
up?

If it is *please* point me to it. But I think Jody might just mean uploading the files, not actually publishing them. But I pray that I am wrong :slight_smile:

Cheers
Andrea

--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.

Here is the break down (they have several ways to uplaod files; there
web ui - which I find better then the last one - since you can upload
files and cut and paste them to move them between folders. Only trick
is I could not rename a folder; I had to move all the files out of it;
and then delete it).

There is sftp - you can see all the folders there - to hide something
move it into the folder "oldFiles". I also found I could move entire
folders (the old geotools milestones) into the "oldFiles" folder in
order to hide them.

They also listed SCP; Rsync but I did not try them.

Once you have files uploaded you can use the web ui to change what
type they are (platform independent etc - cannot say I bothered).

https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Release%20files%20for%20download

Jody

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Justin Deoliveira<jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:

Andrea Aime wrote:

Jody Garnett ha scritto:

The "new" file system manager let me connect with sftp and upload
files directly to the final spot. It was much nicer.

You mean it's not necessary anymore to point, click and submit 12 times
(once for each file to declare the file type) in order to have files
up?

If it is *please* point me to it. But I think Jody might just mean uploading
the files, not actually publishing them. But I pray that I am wrong :slight_smile:

Cheers
Andrea

--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.

Ok cool, things have changed for the better. Go sourceforge!!

Jody Garnett wrote:

Here is the break down (they have several ways to uplaod files; there
web ui - which I find better then the last one - since you can upload
files and cut and paste them to move them between folders. Only trick
is I could not rename a folder; I had to move all the files out of it;
and then delete it).

There is sftp - you can see all the folders there - to hide something
move it into the folder "oldFiles". I also found I could move entire
folders (the old geotools milestones) into the "oldFiles" folder in
order to hide them.

They also listed SCP; Rsync but I did not try them.

Once you have files uploaded you can use the web ui to change what
type they are (platform independent etc - cannot say I bothered).

https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Release%20files%20for%20download

Jody

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Justin Deoliveira<jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:

Andrea Aime wrote:

Jody Garnett ha scritto:

The "new" file system manager let me connect with sftp and upload
files directly to the final spot. It was much nicer.

You mean it's not necessary anymore to point, click and submit 12 times
(once for each file to declare the file type) in order to have files
up?

If it is *please* point me to it. But I think Jody might just mean uploading
the files, not actually publishing them. But I pray that I am wrong :slight_smile:

Cheers
Andrea

--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.

--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.