I propose this improvement:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules from majority to three positive votes
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141
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On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com>
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I propose this improvement:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules from majority to three positive votes
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141
I'm tentatively -1 on this one in its current form,
the wording seems to imply that just three +1, no -1, and no other vote,
would make a proposal pass.
Also, it does not set any time limit, nor I see one in the current process:
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/policies/psc.html#process
Lack of vote on a proposal might mean lack of interest on
the subject from the PSC, which is a good reason enough to stop the proposal
imho (assuming the PSC is formed by people that do care about GeoServer of
course).
Or it might mean that the proposal is made in a period of the year when
people
are exceptionally busy, or having a vacation, which would allow a minority
to hijack
the proposal system.
As minimum corrections to the system, I'd say the proposal can move on to
implementation only if:
* A majority of the PSC members have voted (eventually 0), with at least 3
+1 in it
* At least one week is given to PSC members to express a vote
* A PSC member can express interest and report lack of time, and ask for an
extension
of one more week
I believe there is also a time limit notion in GeoTools that we could have
a look to.
Cheers
Andrea
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I like the geotools setup with a time-box for decision making: Voting
The good bit is…
To avoid stagnation by lack of interest/time from community members the following assurances are provided:
svn access for changes is granted within 3 days from the proposal
proposal is accepted ‘automatically’ within 15 days (unless objections are raised)
(yeah it still mentions svn - my bad)
On 7 March 2016 at 14:31, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:
I propose this improvement:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules from majority to three positive votes
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141Kind regards,
–
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:
To avoid stagnation by lack of interest/time from community members the
following assurances are provided:- svn access for changes is granted within 3 days from the proposal
- proposal is accepted ‘automatically’ within 15 days (unless
objections are raised)
I believe those need to be amended, they were good rules for a more
civilized time, but
right now they are a liability.
In particular:
- Pretty much only the core contributors were making proposals, so one
could count of them following both the written rules and the spirit of the
community, nowadays that's gone, everybody can prepare them (which is good
in a sense, but bad in others)
- Back then we were reaching for idea sharing and consensus building
first, nowaways people come with almost ready pull requests and are
demanding for rubber stamping, allowing to fast track them is dangerous at
best
- When that happens, sometimes the pull request is gigantic, and there
is simply no way to review it within 3 days unless you drop your actual
work and dedicate a lot of time to it
In light of that, the rules should be more defensive, if anything, we
should make a proposal to change the GeoTools voting system.
Cheers
Andrea
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I have updated and retitled GSIP 141 to reflect the discussion at the last committee meeting:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141
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GeoServer PSC members, please vote:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141
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+1
Cheers
Andrea
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GeoServer PSC members, please vote:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
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–
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+1
Ian
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GeoServer PSC members, please vote:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141Kind regards,
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2016, at 02:12 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
GeoServer PSC members, please vote:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141Kind regards,
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+1
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smithkm@anonymised.comOn Tue, Mar 22, 2016, at 02:12 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
GeoServer PSC members, please vote:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141Kind regards,
–
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+1
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+1
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GeoServer PSC members, please vote:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141Kind regards,
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Thanks PSC members who voted. GSIP 141 has been accepted. I will prepare a pull request to update the docs.
Kind regards,
Ben.
On 23/03/16 10:12, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
GeoServer PSC members, please vote:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141Kind regards,
--
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Pull request:
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/1545
On 28/03/16 09:42, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
Thanks PSC members who voted. GSIP 141 has been accepted. I will prepare
a pull request to update the docs.Kind regards,
Ben.On 23/03/16 10:12, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
GeoServer PSC members, please vote:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141Kind regards,
--
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I have merged PR 1545 and marked GSIP 141 as completed.
On 29/03/16 10:55, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
Pull request:
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/1545On 28/03/16 09:42, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
Thanks PSC members who voted. GSIP 141 has been accepted. I will prepare
a pull request to update the docs.Kind regards,
Ben.On 23/03/16 10:12, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
GeoServer PSC members, please vote:
GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules to 30% positive with 50% quorum
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141Kind regards,
--
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand