[Geoserver-users] Help me get started

steff · November 14, 2011, 12:29pm

In regards to my first thread, I think its best that I start all over.

First, Iam new to this, I know GIS and I work in MapInfo and ArcMap.

Now I want to publish a map with several layers that is ontop of a GeoTIFF
image.

I came in contact with GeoServer and that was how my idea was initially
born.

But, seems I lack knowledge of this new field Iam venturing into - thats
where this thread might come in handy for me and others.

First I want to know:
1: What Is required to make it possible for users to surf into my computer
and look at maps I made?

I now Know that GeoServer is the server that a client talks to, the client
is the service the user uses to see my maps.

But, What client is easiest to use, I want a client that is visual, you drag
buttons and point and click to create the interface.

Does GeoServer have Everything that I need, I read about REST that from what
I understand is a webclient, and I read about GeoEXT that I understand is a
visual-creator to create the webclient interface, or did I get this wrong?

What is this called, a server that show maps, is it called Mapserver, or
WMS-server? - As you can see Iam a complete novice about this.

Any help or links that points me to tutorials about this subject would be
appreciated alot.

Thanks in advance.

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Imran_Rajjad · November 14, 2011, 2:25pm

You can check out Open Layers as a starter .

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:29 PM, steff <steberghs@anonymised.com> wrote:

In regards to my first thread, I think its best that I start all over.

First, Iam new to this, I know GIS and I work in MapInfo and ArcMap.

Now I want to publish a map with several layers that is ontop of a GeoTIFF
image.

I came in contact with GeoServer and that was how my idea was initially
born.

But, seems I lack knowledge of this new field Iam venturing into - thats
where this thread might come in handy for me and others.

First I want to know:
1: What Is required to make it possible for users to surf into my computer
and look at maps I made?

I now Know that GeoServer is the server that a client talks to, the client
is the service the user uses to see my maps.

But, What client is easiest to use, I want a client that is visual, you drag
buttons and point and click to create the interface.

Does GeoServer have Everything that I need, I read about REST that from what
I understand is a webclient, and I read about GeoEXT that I understand is a
visual-creator to create the webclient interface, or did I get this wrong?

What is this called, a server that show maps, is it called Mapserver, or
WMS-server? - As you can see Iam a complete novice about this.

Any help or links that points me to tutorials about this subject would be
appreciated alot.

Thanks in advance.

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Jorn_Vegard_Rosnes · November 14, 2011, 2:33pm

Or http://leaflet.cloudmade.com/reference.html#tilelayer-wms

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GeoGEOrge · November 14, 2011, 3:57pm

I agree- OpenLayers.org is a good starting point. It is NOT drag and drop
icons. It requires creating HTML with Javascript code. The samples on the
web site show how easy that is to create a basic map.

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Phil_Scadden · November 14, 2011, 8:20pm

If you want just make a map in GIS and publish it, then you really have
to look at ArcGIS Server. That is their target. You get all the
ESRI-created symbology etc without venturing into the decidedly non
drag-drop world of SLDs (used for symbology in Geoserver). You also get
to pay for it. Slightly cheaper would be to look at Geocat Bridge which
gives you easier publishing from ArcMap to Geoserver. However, making
maps and data available on the web brings you into the world of web
servers with all the issues of security, load management, reliability,
and so on. Its a tough ask without the appropriate infrastructure.
Client-side, you dont get the fancy functionality without programming.
OpenLayers is a way to go but you might also like to look at pre-built
client derived from it - eg GeoExplorer.

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steff · November 15, 2011, 10:25am

Thanks for the answers.

I looked at Geocatbridge and I will try the demo of that.
But why does it say i need Geonetwork? I already have GeoServer installed.

When all this is done, do I need a Webserver like Tomcat"apache" or is it
enough
to only have Geoserver?

The material created by geocatbridge is that like a html page i just put
on the apache server?

I read about GeoExplorer and that looks good to but the problem is that
I need to compile it as its only source-code.

/Ste

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Imran_Rajjad · November 15, 2011, 12:47pm

For the webserver thing, it depends on how you are using Geoserver, if you have the windows installer , that comes with tomcat itself, however if you the War file only then you will need an container such as tocmat, glassfish etc. you might also try giving open layers a try, infact the demo page of geoserver shows you data using a small version of openlayers that comes with geoserver, so you might check that out first, maybe that will get you going nicely

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:25 PM, steff <steberghs@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thanks for the answers.

I looked at Geocatbridge and I will try the demo of that.
But why does it say i need Geonetwork? I already have GeoServer installed.

When all this is done, do I need a Webserver like Tomcat"apache" or is it
enough
to only have Geoserver?

The material created by geocatbridge is that like a html page i just put
on the apache server?

I read about GeoExplorer and that looks good to but the problem is that
I need to compile it as its only source-code.

/Ste

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steff · November 15, 2011, 2:53pm

I have the windows installer version of Geoserver

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steff · November 15, 2011, 3:38pm

Geocatbridge isnt an option, i want opensource.

I need to get this going cause I need it done by Thursday morning for a
presentation

That means I need the map with 10 layers that users can turn on and of, and
the Geotiff as the first "layer".

Got Geoserver already the windows installer version.

Dont have time to learn Openlayers.

Is there an installer for GeoExt?

Can I make this with only windows installer version of Geoserver and GeoExt?
Can users them surf into my computer and see the map?

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luis_peinado · November 15, 2011, 3:44pm

Maybe Opengeo suite, it’s really fine and you don’t need to program at all.
http://opengeo.org/products/suite/

Here is a demo
http://demo.geodata.es/castellbisbal/?lang=en

2011/11/15 steff <steberghs@anonymised.com>

Geocatbridge isnt an option, i want opensource.

I need to get this going cause I need it done by Thursday morning for a
presentation

That means I need the map with 10 layers that users can turn on and of, and
the Geotiff as the first “layer”.

Got Geoserver already the windows installer version.

Dont have time to learn Openlayers.

Is there an installer for GeoExt?

Can I make this with only windows installer version of Geoserver and GeoExt?
Can users them surf into my computer and see the map?

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ianturton · November 15, 2011, 5:08pm

On 15 November 2011 15:38, steff <steberghs@anonymised.com> wrote:

Geocatbridge isnt an option, i want opensource.

I need to get this going cause I need it done by Thursday morning for a
presentation

You are probably screwed - never leave your home work until the last minute.

That means I need the map with 10 layers that users can turn on and of, and
the Geotiff as the first "layer".

Got Geoserver already the windows installer version.

Put the data into GeoServer

Dont have time to learn Openlayers.

Use the layer preview and edit the url to list all the layers you need to show.

Proceed to demo.

(see if http://ian01.geog.psu.edu/geoserver_docs/ gets you started)

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Ben_Caradoc-Davies · November 17, 2011, 2:02am

On 14/11/11 20:29, steff wrote:

First, Iam new to this, I know GIS and I work in MapInfo and ArcMap.

Good start. The new bit for you is web applications.

1: What Is required to make it possible for users to surf into my computer
and look at maps I made?
I now Know that GeoServer is the server that a client talks to, the client
is the service the user uses to see my maps.
But, What client is easiest to use, I want a client that is visual, you drag
buttons and point and click to create the interface.

(1) Your users need a WMS client. OpenLayers is a popular WMS client in JavaScript with heaps of examples. If you create a web page that uses OpenLayers, you can configure it to combine multiple WMS layers of your choosing.
http://openlayers.org/

(2) You need to deploy one or more WMS services that the client can consume. We of course prefer GeoServer.

You should be able to use any HTML/CSS/JavaScript editor that is compatible with OpenLayers. I cannot advise you on this as I used a plain text editor.

Does GeoServer have Everything that I need

GeoServer includes a copy of OpenLayers for demos. You should get your own copy and customise it for your own purposes.

What is this called, a server that show maps, is it called Mapserver, or
WMS-server? - As you can see Iam a complete novice about this.

The server is the WMS (Web Map Service).

The client creates WMS requests. The WMS server (e.g. GeoServer WMS or Mapserver) renders the images and delivers them to the client, which may be running in a web browser.

Any help or links that points me to tutorials about this subject would be
appreciated alot.

I recommend the OpenLayers examples.
http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/

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steff · November 17, 2011, 11:50am

Thanks everyone for good answers.

I will skip the open layers as of now, will fiddle with that later.

The main priority now is to be able to surf into Geoserver and see the layer
preview from outside my house.

I went into cmd, commandpromt /ipconfig to get my ip and tried acess from
outside and it didnt work.
http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/geoserver

I have no firewall or anything, can someone shed light upon this problem?

/Steff

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Charles_Galpin2 · November 17, 2011, 12:24pm

Go to whatismyip.com from your desktop and try the IP it shows. But you may have windows firewall blocking port 8080 or an upstream router needing configuration to forward this port to your machine. None of this is geoserver related though.

hth
charles

On Nov 17, 2011, at 6:50 AM, steff wrote:

I went into cmd, commandpromt /ipconfig to get my ip and tried acess from
outside and it didnt work.
http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/geoserver

I have no firewall or anything, can someone shed light upon this problem?

steff · November 17, 2011, 4:21pm

I still cant, I have geoserver windows installer, installed everything
correctly.

Changed Router to forward to 8080.

Tried both whatismyip ip and ipconfig ip, still no connection to Geoserver
interface from outside localhost :\

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steff · November 17, 2011, 5:07pm

Hold your horses guys, I fixed it Charles-Galpin was correct, it was my
router that was causing the issue.

I just want to Tell everyone how I solved it.

I have a Dlink-di 524 Router.
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To fix this I logged in to the router interface.
Clicked Tab "Advanced" Then Virtual Server.

Enable
Wrote name Geoserver
Then for IP I had to use the WAN-IP, that is the ip that i get when i go to
whatismyip.com

Private port:8080
Public port:8080

Always.

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This fixed the problem, so people that want to acess the geoserver from
outside
have to use the WAN-ip, then the router redirects to my geoserver.

Thanks everyone for being helpful. Next thing i will start with is to learn
some basic XML,JAvascript and start with open layers.

Steff

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