[Geoserver-users] How to determine MinScaleDenominator and MaxScaleDenominator to use in SLD

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1

Hi All

I’ve just started using GeoServer, GeoWebCache and Openlayers but I do not understand how to determine the MinScaleDenominator and MaxScaleDenominator to use in my layers SLD file.

My OpenLayers map uses Google Maps as the base layer and i have a shapefile stored in GeoServer that houses the points I want to overlay.

If I use the default ‘point’ style supplied with GeoServer the points display algeol of the time as I expect, but I would like to change their style at different zoom levels but I can’t find a way of linking the zoom in OpenLayers to the scale in GeoServer.

I think that I am on the right lines but could do with a steer in the right direction. I’ve seen an example SLD at http://edit.csic.es/SLD/GMapExample.sld.xml but these scales do not seem to work for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Simon

2

Hi Simon,

I am not sure if I completely understand your problem... but you should be able to configure openlayers to show you what scale you are at. Then when you zoom around you can take values from the scale and plug them into your SLD.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi All

I’ve just started using GeoServer, GeoWebCache and Openlayers but I do not understand how to determine the MinScaleDenominator and MaxScaleDenominator to use in my layers SLD file.

My OpenLayers map uses Google Maps as the base layer and i have a shapefile stored in GeoServer that houses the points I want to overlay.

If I use the default ‘point’ style supplied with GeoServer the points display algeol of the time as I expect, but I would like to change their style at different zoom levels but I can’t find a way of linking the zoom in OpenLayers to the scale in GeoServer.

I think that I am on the right lines but could do with a steer in the right direction. I’ve seen an example SLD at http://edit.csic.es/SLD/GMapExample.sld.xml but these scales do not seem to work for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Simon

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Hi Justin

Yes you've understood correctly. I noticed that Styler showed the scale when
zooming in and out and this solved my problem. I just wondered if there was
a more scientific way of working it out.

I also noticed that when I displayed the scale in OpenLayers that the scale
was slightly different to the one shown in Styler, is there some kind of
'factor' I need to take into account? I seem to remember seeing a figure of
0.90 somewhere?

Regards
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com]
Sent: 02 October 2009 13:31
To: sc
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] How to determine MinScaleDenominator and
MaxScaleDenominator to use in SLD

Hi Simon,

I am not sure if I completely understand your problem... but you should
be able to configure openlayers to show you what scale you are at. Then
when you zoom around you can take values from the scale and plug them
into your SLD.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi All

I've just started using GeoServer, GeoWebCache and Openlayers but I do
not understand how to determine the MinScaleDenominator and
MaxScaleDenominator to use in my layers SLD file.

My OpenLayers map uses Google Maps as the base layer and i have a
shapefile stored in GeoServer that houses the points I want to overlay.

If I use the default 'point' style supplied with GeoServer the points
display algeol of the time as I expect, but I would like to change their
style at different zoom levels but I can't find a way of linking the
zoom in OpenLayers to the scale in GeoServer.

I think that I am on the right lines but could do with a steer in the
right direction. I've seen an example SLD at
http://edit.csic.es/SLD/GMapExample.sld.xml but these scales do not seem
to work for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Simon

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Ahh cool, sorry i did not pick up on that you were using the styler. Yes, hovering over the scalebar works well. However I believe there is also a ticket open to renable the scale directly on the map itself.

As for your question about the scale factor, i am not sure. I have cc'd one of the styler developers who should be able to better comment.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi Justin

Yes you've understood correctly. I noticed that Styler showed the scale when
zooming in and out and this solved my problem. I just wondered if there was
a more scientific way of working it out.

I also noticed that when I displayed the scale in OpenLayers that the scale
was slightly different to the one shown in Styler, is there some kind of
'factor' I need to take into account? I seem to remember seeing a figure of
0.90 somewhere?

Regards
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com] Sent: 02 October 2009 13:31
To: sc
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] How to determine MinScaleDenominator and
MaxScaleDenominator to use in SLD

Hi Simon,

I am not sure if I completely understand your problem... but you should be able to configure openlayers to show you what scale you are at. Then when you zoom around you can take values from the scale and plug them into your SLD.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi All

I've just started using GeoServer, GeoWebCache and Openlayers but I do not understand how to determine the MinScaleDenominator and MaxScaleDenominator to use in my layers SLD file.

My OpenLayers map uses Google Maps as the base layer and i have a shapefile stored in GeoServer that houses the points I want to overlay.

If I use the default 'point' style supplied with GeoServer the points display algeol of the time as I expect, but I would like to change their style at different zoom levels but I can't find a way of linking the zoom in OpenLayers to the scale in GeoServer.

I think that I am on the right lines but could do with a steer in the right direction. I've seen an example SLD at http://edit.csic.es/SLD/GMapExample.sld.xml but these scales do not seem to work for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Simon

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Hi,

Styler assumes the same screen resolution as the OpenLayers map preview
in GeoServer, which is 25.4 / 0.28 = 90.7143 dpi. The reason for that is
the "standardized rendering pixel size" of 0.28mm x 0.28mm, as defined
in the SLD spec. OpenLayers assumes a default resolution of 72 dpi. If
you want your OpenLayers application to show the scales exactly as
defined in SLD, you need to set the following after including
OpenLayers.js in your application:

OpenLayers.DOTS_PER_INCH = 25.4 / 0.28;

Otherwise, the scale factor would be 72 / 90.7143 = 0.7937.

Regards,
Andreas.

Justin Deoliveira wrote:

Ahh cool, sorry i did not pick up on that you were using the styler.
Yes, hovering over the scalebar works well. However I believe there is
also a ticket open to renable the scale directly on the map itself.

As for your question about the scale factor, i am not sure. I have
cc'd one of the styler developers who should be able to better comment.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi Justin

Yes you've understood correctly. I noticed that Styler showed the
scale when
zooming in and out and this solved my problem. I just wondered if
there was
a more scientific way of working it out.

I also noticed that when I displayed the scale in OpenLayers that the
scale
was slightly different to the one shown in Styler, is there some kind of
'factor' I need to take into account? I seem to remember seeing a
figure of
0.90 somewhere?

Regards
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com] Sent: 02
October 2009 13:31
To: sc
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] How to determine MinScaleDenominator and
MaxScaleDenominator to use in SLD

Hi Simon,

I am not sure if I completely understand your problem... but you
should be able to configure openlayers to show you what scale you are
at. Then when you zoom around you can take values from the scale and
plug them into your SLD.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi All

I've just started using GeoServer, GeoWebCache and Openlayers but I
do not understand how to determine the MinScaleDenominator and
MaxScaleDenominator to use in my layers SLD file.

My OpenLayers map uses Google Maps as the base layer and i have a
shapefile stored in GeoServer that houses the points I want to overlay.

If I use the default 'point' style supplied with GeoServer the
points display algeol of the time as I expect, but I would like to
change their style at different zoom levels but I can't find a way
of linking the zoom in OpenLayers to the scale in GeoServer.

I think that I am on the right lines but could do with a steer in
the right direction. I've seen an example SLD at
http://edit.csic.es/SLD/GMapExample.sld.xml but these scales do not
seem to work for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Simon

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6

Hi Andreas!

Based in your explanations, what would be the values to use in the SLD rules?

I mean… for example, what to put here?

0
??

then
??
???
…

How to determine these values?

May be you already showed how, but I can’t get it.

Thanks!!

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Andreas Hocevar <ahocevar@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

Styler assumes the same screen resolution as the OpenLayers map preview
in GeoServer, which is 25.4 / 0.28 = 90.7143 dpi. The reason for that is
the “standardized rendering pixel size” of 0.28mm x 0.28mm, as defined
in the SLD spec. OpenLayers assumes a default resolution of 72 dpi. If
you want your OpenLayers application to show the scales exactly as
defined in SLD, you need to set the following after including
OpenLayers.js in your application:

OpenLayers.DOTS_PER_INCH = 25.4 / 0.28;

Otherwise, the scale factor would be 72 / 90.7143 = 0.7937.

Regards,
Andreas.

Justin Deoliveira wrote:

Ahh cool, sorry i did not pick up on that you were using the styler.
Yes, hovering over the scalebar works well. However I believe there is
also a ticket open to renable the scale directly on the map itself.

As for your question about the scale factor, i am not sure. I have
cc’d one of the styler developers who should be able to better comment.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi Justin

Yes you’ve understood correctly. I noticed that Styler showed the
scale when
zooming in and out and this solved my problem. I just wondered if
there was
a more scientific way of working it out.

I also noticed that when I displayed the scale in OpenLayers that the
scale
was slightly different to the one shown in Styler, is there some kind of
‘factor’ I need to take into account? I seem to remember seeing a
figure of
0.90 somewhere?

Regards
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com] Sent: 02
October 2009 13:31
To: sc
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] How to determine MinScaleDenominator and
MaxScaleDenominator to use in SLD

Hi Simon,

I am not sure if I completely understand your problem… but you
should be able to configure openlayers to show you what scale you are
at. Then when you zoom around you can take values from the scale and
plug them into your SLD.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi All

I’ve just started using GeoServer, GeoWebCache and Openlayers but I
do not understand how to determine the MinScaleDenominator and
MaxScaleDenominator to use in my layers SLD file.

My OpenLayers map uses Google Maps as the base layer and i have a
shapefile stored in GeoServer that houses the points I want to overlay.

If I use the default ‘point’ style supplied with GeoServer the
points display algeol of the time as I expect, but I would like to
change their style at different zoom levels but I can’t find a way
of linking the zoom in OpenLayers to the scale in GeoServer.

I think that I am on the right lines but could do with a steer in
the right direction. I’ve seen an example SLD at
http://edit.csic.es/SLD/GMapExample.sld.xml but these scales do not
seem to work for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Simon

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One easy way is to open up the map preview for the layer of interest and zoom in to whatever level. Then typing “javascript:void alert(map.getScale())” into your browser’s address bar (replace the address entirely) will tell you the scale denominator for the current view. If you use it as a maxScaleDenominator then your style will apply when you are further zoomed in; if you use it as a minScaleDenominator then your style will apply when you are further zoomed out.

If you need this information frequently you can make a bookmark with that JavaScript as the URL.

Hope this helps.

8

Thanks a lot, David!

It really helped me.

Regards,

Vitor Isaia.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, David Winslow <dwinslow@anonymised.com> wrote:

One easy way is to open up the map preview for the layer of interest and zoom in to whatever level. Then typing “javascript:void alert(map.getScale())” into your browser’s address bar (replace the address entirely) will tell you the scale denominator for the current view. If you use it as a maxScaleDenominator then your style will apply when you are further zoomed in; if you use it as a minScaleDenominator then your style will apply when you are further zoomed out.

If you need this information frequently you can make a bookmark with that JavaScript as the URL.

Hope this helps.

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OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org/

On 10/14/2009 02:41 PM, Vitor Isaia wrote:

Hi Andreas!

Based in your explanations, what would be the values to use in the SLD rules?

I mean… for example, what to put here?

0
??

then
??
???
…

How to determine these values?

May be you already showed how, but I can’t get it.

Thanks!!

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Andreas Hocevar <ahocevar@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

Styler assumes the same screen resolution as the OpenLayers map preview
in GeoServer, which is 25.4 / 0.28 = 90.7143 dpi. The reason for that is
the “standardized rendering pixel size” of 0.28mm x 0.28mm, as defined
in the SLD spec. OpenLayers assumes a default resolution of 72 dpi. If
you want your OpenLayers application to show the scales exactly as
defined in SLD, you need to set the following after including
OpenLayers.js in your application:

OpenLayers.DOTS_PER_INCH = 25.4 / 0.28;

Otherwise, the scale factor would be 72 / 90.7143 = 0.7937.

Regards,
Andreas.

Justin Deoliveira wrote:

Ahh cool, sorry i did not pick up on that you were using the styler.
Yes, hovering over the scalebar works well. However I believe there is
also a ticket open to renable the scale directly on the map itself.

As for your question about the scale factor, i am not sure. I have
cc’d one of the styler developers who should be able to better comment.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi Justin

Yes you’ve understood correctly. I noticed that Styler showed the
scale when
zooming in and out and this solved my problem. I just wondered if
there was
a more scientific way of working it out.

I also noticed that when I displayed the scale in OpenLayers that the
scale
was slightly different to the one shown in Styler, is there some kind of
‘factor’ I need to take into account? I seem to remember seeing a
figure of
0.90 somewhere?

Regards
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com] Sent: 02
October 2009 13:31
To: sc
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] How to determine MinScaleDenominator and
MaxScaleDenominator to use in SLD

Hi Simon,

I am not sure if I completely understand your problem… but you
should be able to configure openlayers to show you what scale you are
at. Then when you zoom around you can take values from the scale and
plug them into your SLD.

-Justin

sc wrote:

Hi All

I’ve just started using GeoServer, GeoWebCache and Openlayers but I
do not understand how to determine the MinScaleDenominator and
MaxScaleDenominator to use in my layers SLD file.

My OpenLayers map uses Google Maps as the base layer and i have a
shapefile stored in GeoServer that houses the points I want to overlay.

If I use the default ‘point’ style supplied with GeoServer the
points display algeol of the time as I expect, but I would like to
change their style at different zoom levels but I can’t find a way
of linking the zoom in OpenLayers to the scale in GeoServer.

I think that I am on the right lines but could do with a steer in
the right direction. I’ve seen an example SLD at
http://edit.csic.es/SLD/GMapExample.sld.xml but these scales do not
seem to work for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Simon

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