[Geoserver-users] wms update

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1

If I load new data into an SDE feature class, should geoserver serve the new data automatically or should I restart geoserver? I’m using the ArcSDE connector but my newly loaded point features do not show up. Or do I have a fundamental misunderstanding of WMS and is intended to serve static data only?

David A. Hollema

GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.

2

Hi David,

No you are correct, GeoServer should serve the data automatically, no update required. I guess one thing to make sure is that there is no caching going on. A couple of questions?

How are you viewing the data? What client?

Do the points actually show up after a restart?

Does the style on the layer in question contain any conditional filters that might be prohibiting the points being added?

-Justin

David Hollema wrote:

If I load new data into an SDE feature class, should geoserver serve the new data automatically or should I restart geoserver? I’m using the ArcSDE connector but my newly loaded point features do not show up. Or do I have a fundamental misunderstanding of WMS and is intended to serve static data only?

David A. Hollema

GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.

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3

I'm using OpenLayers as my client. I restarted geoserver, restarted
SDE, and compressed the database. Still can't see my points. They are
certainly in SDE as ArcGIS can see them in SDE.DEFAULT. Could this be a
versioning issue? Does geoserver look at SDE.DEFAULT? Also, the
feature class is not registered as versioned in ArcCatalog. I can't
have it versioned because I need to routinely load data into this
feature class with some ArcToolbox stuff. Can geoserver handle
non-versioned feature classes?

No filters on the style.

Dave

David A. Hollema
GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:50 PM
To: David Hollema
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

Hi David,

No you are correct, GeoServer should serve the data automatically, no
update required. I guess one thing to make sure is that there is no
caching going on. A couple of questions?

How are you viewing the data? What client?

Do the points actually show up after a restart?

Does the style on the layer in question contain any conditional filters
that might be prohibiting the points being added?

-Justin

David Hollema wrote:

If I load new data into an SDE feature class, should geoserver serve

the

new data automatically or should I restart geoserver? I'm using the
ArcSDE connector but my newly loaded point features do not show up.

Or

do I have a fundamental misunderstanding of WMS and is intended to

serve

static data only?

David A. Hollema

GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.

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4

Hi David,

David Hollema wrote:

I'm using OpenLayers as my client. I restarted geoserver, restarted
SDE, and compressed the database. Still can't see my points. They are
certainly in SDE as ArcGIS can see them in SDE.DEFAULT. Could this be a
versioning issue? Does geoserver look at SDE.DEFAULT?

that's strange. Yes, GeoServer works upon non versioned featureclasses and upon SDE.DEFAULT in case the featureclass is versioned

Also, the
feature class is not registered as versioned in ArcCatalog. I can't
have it versioned because I need to routinely load data into this
feature class with some ArcToolbox stuff. Can geoserver handle
non-versioned feature classes?

mind, if you send a WFS GetFeature request for your feature type do you get the points in gml?

Gabriel

No filters on the style.

Dave

David A. Hollema
GIS Analyst
United Power, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:50 PM
To: David Hollema
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

Hi David,

No you are correct, GeoServer should serve the data automatically, no update required. I guess one thing to make sure is that there is no caching going on. A couple of questions?

How are you viewing the data? What client?

Do the points actually show up after a restart?

Does the style on the layer in question contain any conditional filters that might be prohibiting the points being added?

-Justin

David Hollema wrote:

If I load new data into an SDE feature class, should geoserver serve

the

new data automatically or should I restart geoserver? I'm using the ArcSDE connector but my newly loaded point features do not show up.

Or

do I have a fundamental misunderstanding of WMS and is intended to

serve

static data only?

David A. Hollema

GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.

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5

Yes, my WFS request does return the points in GML. No problem there.

David A. Hollema
GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel Roldan [mailto:groldan@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 11:31 AM
To: David Hollema
Cc: Justin Deoliveira; geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

Hi David,

David Hollema wrote:

I'm using OpenLayers as my client. I restarted geoserver, restarted
SDE, and compressed the database. Still can't see my points. They

are

certainly in SDE as ArcGIS can see them in SDE.DEFAULT. Could this be

a

versioning issue? Does geoserver look at SDE.DEFAULT?

that's strange. Yes, GeoServer works upon non versioned featureclasses
and upon SDE.DEFAULT in case the featureclass is versioned

Also, the
feature class is not registered as versioned in ArcCatalog. I can't
have it versioned because I need to routinely load data into this
feature class with some ArcToolbox stuff. Can geoserver handle
non-versioned feature classes?

mind, if you send a WFS GetFeature request for your feature type do you
get the points in gml?

Gabriel

No filters on the style.

Dave

David A. Hollema
GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:50 PM
To: David Hollema
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

Hi David,

No you are correct, GeoServer should serve the data automatically, no
update required. I guess one thing to make sure is that there is no
caching going on. A couple of questions?

How are you viewing the data? What client?

Do the points actually show up after a restart?

Does the style on the layer in question contain any conditional

filters

that might be prohibiting the points being added?

-Justin

David Hollema wrote:

If I load new data into an SDE feature class, should geoserver serve

the

new data automatically or should I restart geoserver? I'm using the
ArcSDE connector but my newly loaded point features do not show up.

Or

do I have a fundamental misunderstanding of WMS and is intended to

serve

static data only?

David A. Hollema

GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.

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6

ok, so, how does the style you're applying to the layer look like? did you try a different one? it is the default "point" style shipped with geoserver?

Gabriel
David Hollema wrote:

Yes, my WFS request does return the points in GML. No problem there.

David A. Hollema
GIS Analyst
United Power, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel Roldan [mailto:groldan@anonymised.com] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 11:31 AM
To: David Hollema
Cc: Justin Deoliveira; geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

Hi David,

David Hollema wrote:

I'm using OpenLayers as my client. I restarted geoserver, restarted
SDE, and compressed the database. Still can't see my points. They

are

certainly in SDE as ArcGIS can see them in SDE.DEFAULT. Could this be

a

versioning issue? Does geoserver look at SDE.DEFAULT?

that's strange. Yes, GeoServer works upon non versioned featureclasses and upon SDE.DEFAULT in case the featureclass is versioned

Also, the
feature class is not registered as versioned in ArcCatalog. I can't
have it versioned because I need to routinely load data into this
feature class with some ArcToolbox stuff. Can geoserver handle
non-versioned feature classes?

mind, if you send a WFS GetFeature request for your feature type do you get the points in gml?

Gabriel

No filters on the style.

Dave

David A. Hollema
GIS Analyst
United Power, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:50 PM
To: David Hollema
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

Hi David,

No you are correct, GeoServer should serve the data automatically, no update required. I guess one thing to make sure is that there is no caching going on. A couple of questions?

How are you viewing the data? What client?

Do the points actually show up after a restart?

Does the style on the layer in question contain any conditional

filters

that might be prohibiting the points being added?

-Justin

David Hollema wrote:

If I load new data into an SDE feature class, should geoserver serve

the

new data automatically or should I restart geoserver? I'm using the ArcSDE connector but my newly loaded point features do not show up.

Or

do I have a fundamental misunderstanding of WMS and is intended to

serve

static data only?

David A. Hollema

GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.

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7

Here's the sld. I tried viewing either WMS or WFS with uDig as a test.
Neither of them show all the points on the map but I can see all the
features in the uDig "table" tab for the WFS feature. uDig display only
a portion of the points. If I select a record, it gets highlighted in
yellow in the map but there's no symbol on the map.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel Roldan [mailto:groldan@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 11:54 AM
To: David Hollema
Cc: Justin Deoliveira; geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

ok, so, how does the style you're applying to the layer look like? did
you try a different one? it is the default "point" style shipped with
geoserver?

Gabriel
David Hollema wrote:

Yes, my WFS request does return the points in GML. No problem there.

David A. Hollema
GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel Roldan [mailto:groldan@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 11:31 AM
To: David Hollema
Cc: Justin Deoliveira; geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

Hi David,

David Hollema wrote:

I'm using OpenLayers as my client. I restarted geoserver, restarted
SDE, and compressed the database. Still can't see my points. They

are

certainly in SDE as ArcGIS can see them in SDE.DEFAULT. Could this

be

a

versioning issue? Does geoserver look at SDE.DEFAULT?

that's strange. Yes, GeoServer works upon non versioned featureclasses

and upon SDE.DEFAULT in case the featureclass is versioned

Also, the
feature class is not registered as versioned in ArcCatalog. I can't
have it versioned because I need to routinely load data into this
feature class with some ArcToolbox stuff. Can geoserver handle
non-versioned feature classes?

mind, if you send a WFS GetFeature request for your feature type do

you

get the points in gml?

Gabriel

No filters on the style.

Dave

David A. Hollema
GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Deoliveira [mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:50 PM
To: David Hollema
Cc: geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

Hi David,

No you are correct, GeoServer should serve the data automatically, no

update required. I guess one thing to make sure is that there is no
caching going on. A couple of questions?

How are you viewing the data? What client?

Do the points actually show up after a restart?

Does the style on the layer in question contain any conditional

filters

that might be prohibiting the points being added?

-Justin

David Hollema wrote:

If I load new data into an SDE feature class, should geoserver serve

the

new data automatically or should I restart geoserver? I'm using the

ArcSDE connector but my newly loaded point features do not show up.

Or

do I have a fundamental misunderstanding of WMS and is intended to

serve

static data only?

David A. Hollema

GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.

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jointuse_photos.sld (3.85 KB)

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David Hollema ha scritto:

Here's the sld. I tried viewing either WMS or WFS with uDig as a test.
Neither of them show all the points on the map but I can see all the
features in the uDig "table" tab for the WFS feature. uDig display only
a portion of the points. If I select a record, it gets highlighted in
yellow in the map but there's no symbol on the map.

That's tipically the case of udig adding a useless bbox filter around
your data, a bbox filter that it grabbed from the capabilities in
intersection with the viewing area. This is dumb, it should just use
the viewing bbox instead. I reported it as a bug, looks like it
has been fixed on trunk and will be released as part of uDig
1.2 (when that reaches a stable version, that is):
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/UDIG-1219

Make sure the capabilities reports at least the bbox of your data as is,
but make it also larger to accomodate for data growth.

Cheers
Andrea

9

I don't understand. Is this a problem with the extents defined in the
geoserver feature type or a problem with the SLD or something else? I
already made my extents in geoserver for this feature type plenty large
enough for these data and future data...

David A. Hollema
GIS Analyst

United Power, Inc.
Direct: 303-637-1366
Fax: 303-637-1366
www.unitedpower.com

Physical Address
500 Cooperative Way
Brighton, CO 80603
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P.O. Box 929
Brighton, CO 80601

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrea Aime [mailto:aaime@anonymised.com]
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:21 PM
To: David Hollema
Cc: Gabriel Roldan; geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-users] wms update

David Hollema ha scritto:

Here's the sld. I tried viewing either WMS or WFS with uDig as a

test.

Neither of them show all the points on the map but I can see all the
features in the uDig "table" tab for the WFS feature. uDig display

only

a portion of the points. If I select a record, it gets highlighted in
yellow in the map but there's no symbol on the map.

That's tipically the case of udig adding a useless bbox filter around
your data, a bbox filter that it grabbed from the capabilities in
intersection with the viewing area. This is dumb, it should just use
the viewing bbox instead. I reported it as a bug, looks like it
has been fixed on trunk and will be released as part of uDig
1.2 (when that reaches a stable version, that is):
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/UDIG-1219

Make sure the capabilities reports at least the bbox of your data as is,
but make it also larger to accomodate for data growth.

Cheers
Andrea

10

David Hollema ha scritto:

I don't understand. Is this a problem with the extents defined in the
geoserver feature type or a problem with the SLD or something else? I
already made my extents in geoserver for this feature type plenty large
enough for these data and future data...

Please understand I'm just guessing based on your reports, and I may be
way off. It's hard to tell what the issue actually is without looking
at a log with all the requests and the like.

Cheers
Andrea