[GRASS-dev] access to wingrass binaries

Can we list Moritz’ wingrass binary site on the GRASS binaries download page in addition to or instead of Huidae Cho’s page? Huidae’s binaries are way out of date and I understand that Moritz is doing regular binary maintenance.

Michael


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School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University

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On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 10:01:40AM -0700, Michael Barton wrote:

   Can we list Moritz' wingrass binary site on the GRASS binaries download
   page in addition to or instead of Huidae Cho's page? Huidae's binaries are
   way out of date and I understand that Moritz is doing regular binary
   maintenance.

The winGRASS native binaries available from
http://moritz.homelinux.org/grass/wingrass/
is from end of March...

In general, all developers with write access can modify
the web pages.

Markus

Yes, but I wouldn't want to list Moritz' site without his permission.

Michael

On 5/5/07 10:47 AM, "Markus Neteler" <neteler@itc.it> wrote:

On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 10:01:40AM -0700, Michael Barton wrote:

   Can we list Moritz' wingrass binary site on the GRASS binaries download
   page in addition to or instead of Huidae Cho's page? Huidae's binaries are
   way out of date and I understand that Moritz is doing regular binary
   maintenance.

The winGRASS native binaries available from
http://moritz.homelinux.org/grass/wingrass/
is from end of March...

In general, all developers with write access can modify
the web pages.

Markus

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Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University

phone: 480-965-6213
fax: 480-965-7671
www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton

On Sun, May 6, 2007 01:54, Michael Barton wrote:

Yes, but I wouldn't want to list Moritz' site without his permission.

I herewith give my permission.

On 5/5/07 10:47 AM, "Markus Neteler" <neteler@itc.it> wrote:

On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 10:01:40AM -0700, Michael Barton wrote:

   Can we list Moritz' wingrass binary site on the GRASS binaries
download
   page in addition to or instead of Huidae Cho's page?

done (in replacement Huidae's page)

The winGRASS native binaries available from
http://moritz.homelinux.org/grass/wingrass/
is from end of March...

Yes, sorry, I haven't kept up with my promise...
I just uploaded a new version.

Any feedback on whether this "package" works as it should / as expected by
users is more than welcome.

I also imagine that if we want to make this more official, we need to add
licensing information, including for all the binaries that come from
Paul's package of dependencies. I added a short note at the end of the
readme, but this is surely insufficient. At least we should give the
respective web links. Paul, could you give me the list ? Also, should
these libraries maybe be updated to their latest versions ?

Moritz

Hello Moritz

On Mon, 7 May 2007, Moritz Lennert wrote:

Any feedback on whether this "package" works as it should / as expected by
users is more than welcome.

I haven't tried this one but did give the last one a try and it seemed to work OK. I just tried command-line usage (grass63 -text) as the computer I was using it on didn't have Tcl/TK installed. I think we should be able to include Tcl and Tk libraries in the binary distribution too actually, to reduce compatibility issues and make it *really* easy to install.

I also imagine that if we want to make this more official, we need to add
licensing information, including for all the binaries that come from
Paul's package of dependencies. I added a short note at the end of the
readme, but this is surely insufficient. At least we should give the
respective web links. Paul, could you give me the list ? Also, should
these libraries maybe be updated to their latest versions ?

Funnily enough I was just working on that yesterday. I've put an updated version of wingrass-extralibs.tar.gz up on www.stjohnspoint.co.uk/grass now. There you will also find build instructions with weblinks. Most of it is public domain or BSD-style licensed I think; perhaps one or two packages are GPL. This time the XDR library is compiled statically to work around the problems we had with database connections. Also FFTW and Freetype libraries are included for the first time. Things still aren't perfect (i.e. compiling is not as straightforward as it should be) but it all seems to work.

Paul

How does this compare to the binaries currently shipped with QGIS?
Since these are also a MINGW/MSYS build, it should be possible to
put together a distribution including QGIS and GRASS with Tcl/Tk
support, yes?

This would be wonderful, as we could cover all levels of user
skills/habits, from GUI to command line and have a complete GRASS
running on all major platforms.

Benjamin

Paul Kelly wrote:

Hello Moritz

On Mon, 7 May 2007, Moritz Lennert wrote:

Any feedback on whether this "package" works as it should / as
expected by
users is more than welcome.

I haven't tried this one but did give the last one a try and it seemed
to work OK. I just tried command-line usage (grass63 -text) as the
computer I was using it on didn't have Tcl/TK installed. I think we
should be able to include Tcl and Tk libraries in the binary
distribution too actually, to reduce compatibility issues and make it
*really* easy to install.

I also imagine that if we want to make this more official, we need to add
licensing information, including for all the binaries that come from
Paul's package of dependencies. I added a short note at the end of the
readme, but this is surely insufficient. At least we should give the
respective web links. Paul, could you give me the list ? Also, should
these libraries maybe be updated to their latest versions ?

Funnily enough I was just working on that yesterday. I've put an updated
version of wingrass-extralibs.tar.gz up on www.stjohnspoint.co.uk/grass
now. There you will also find build instructions with weblinks. Most of
it is public domain or BSD-style licensed I think; perhaps one or two
packages are GPL. This time the XDR library is compiled statically to
work around the problems we had with database connections. Also FFTW and
Freetype libraries are included for the first time. Things still aren't
perfect (i.e. compiling is not as straightforward as it should be) but
it all seems to work.

Paul

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Benjamin Ducke wrote on 05/07/2007 10:02 AM:

How does this compare to the binaries currently shipped with QGIS?
Since these are also a MINGW/MSYS build, it should be possible to
put together a distribution including QGIS and GRASS with Tcl/Tk
support, yes?
  

At this point we don't really know which version is used by the QGIS
packagers.

From the blog it isn't clear:

  http://blog.qgis.org/?q=node/56
nor from the testbuilds directory:
  http://qgis.org/uploadfiles/testbuilds/

Tim, you could please document this?

thanks,
Markus

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On 07/05/07 02:15, Paul Kelly wrote:

Hello Moritz

On Mon, 7 May 2007, Moritz Lennert wrote:

Any feedback on whether this "package" works as it should / as expected by
users is more than welcome.

I haven't tried this one but did give the last one a try and it seemed to work OK. I just tried command-line usage (grass63 -text) as the computer I was using it on didn't have Tcl/TK installed. I think we should be able to include Tcl and Tk libraries in the binary distribution too actually, to reduce compatibility issues and make it *really* easy to install.

Any licensing issues concerning the ActiveState distribution that we have to take care of ?

I also imagine that if we want to make this more official, we need to add
licensing information, including for all the binaries that come from
Paul's package of dependencies. I added a short note at the end of the
readme, but this is surely insufficient. At least we should give the
respective web links. Paul, could you give me the list ? Also, should
these libraries maybe be updated to their latest versions ?

Funnily enough I was just working on that yesterday. I've put an updated version of wingrass-extralibs.tar.gz up on www.stjohnspoint.co.uk/grass now. There you will also find build instructions with weblinks. Most of it is public domain or BSD-style licensed I think; perhaps one or two packages are GPL. This time the XDR library is compiled statically to work around the problems we had with database connections. Also FFTW and Freetype libraries are included for the first time. Things still aren't perfect (i.e. compiling is not as straightforward as it should be) but it all seems to work.

Thanks !
I just uploaded a new version of the winGRASS binaries using your latest and greatest library package.

Moritz

On Mon, 7 May 2007, Moritz Lennert wrote:

Any licensing issues concerning the ActiveState distribution that we have to take care of ?

I was thinking more along the lines of compiling Tcl/Tk from scratch on MinGW and including our own binaries, or including the 8.4.1 MinGW binaries that are available somewhere on the net.

Thanks !
I just uploaded a new version of the winGRASS binaries using your latest and greatest library package.

Does it all run OK? Things to check: Display modules not able to find the libfreetype-6.dll, but moving it around a bit to whereever they seemed to be looking fixed that. Also GDAL and GRASS seemed to be looking for the libz dll under different names - AFAICR GRASS was libz.dll.1.2.3 and GDAL libz.dll.1.2.3.dll! But these issues might have been resolved when you put everything together in the GRASS library directory; I didn't really investigate too much what was causing them.

Paul