[GRASS-dev] Re: [GRASS-user] thanks to GRASS!

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1

I wonder if we should start a GRASS “library” on the main site or the WIKI where users could post PDF’s or links to papers on using GRASS?

Michael

On 7/11/07 1:03 AM, “Jaime Carrera” jaicarrerahdez@yahoo.com wrote:

Dear list,

I would just like to thank the GRASS development team for creating such a nice piece of software, as without it I couldn’t have done my PhD work. One of my ideas was to show that Open Source software can be used to develop a large project (as some people think that free stuff is not good) and the use of GRASS, R, GMT, The GIMP and Inkscape was crucial to prove my point.

If someone is interested in some of this work, please follow these links; if someone can’t access these links, please let me know and I can send a PDF copy of them.

On the use of GRASS with R and GSTAT to interpolate daily climatological variables (rainfall, and both minimum and maximum temperature) using different Kriging methods:

Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S.J. (2007). Spatio temporal analysis of daily precipitation and temperature in the Basin of Mexico. Journal of Hydrology. DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jhydrol.2006.12.021

On the use of GRASS in groundwater modeling (Now I have time to update it for GRASS 6.2 and MODFLOW 2005 !)

Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S. J. (2006). The Groundwater Modelling Tool for GRASS (GMTG). Open Source groundwater flow modelling. Computers & Geosciences 32(3):339-351. DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cageo.2005.06.018

There is another paper (in press, Hydrogeology Journal) on which I used GRASS, R and GMT to analyze the evolution of the groundwater level in the Basin of Mexico. The DOI It should be available within the next week.

Cheers,

Jaime

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Director of Graduate Studies
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University

phone: 480-965-6213
fax: 480-965-7671
www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton

2

This could be a nice addition to the BibTeX list on the Wiki

Carlos

On 7/11/07, Michael Barton <michael.barton@asu.edu> wrote:

I wonder if we should start a GRASS "library" on the main site or the WIKI
where users could post PDF's or links to papers on using GRASS?

Michael

On 7/11/07 1:03 AM, "Jaime Carrera" <jaicarrerahdez@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear list,

I would just like to thank the GRASS development team for creating such a
nice piece of software, as without it I couldn't have done my PhD work. One
of my ideas was to show that Open Source software can be used to develop a
large project (as some people think that free stuff is not good) and the use
of GRASS, R, GMT, The GIMP and Inkscape was crucial to prove my point.

If someone is interested in some of this work, please follow these links;
if someone can't access these links, please let me know and I can send a PDF
copy of them.

On the use of GRASS with R and GSTAT to interpolate daily climatological
variables (rainfall, and both minimum and maximum temperature) using
different Kriging methods:

Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S.J. (2007). Spatio temporal analysis
of daily precipitation and temperature in the Basin of Mexico. Journal of
Hydrology. DOI:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jhydrol.2006.12.021

On the use of GRASS in groundwater modeling (Now I have time to update it
for GRASS 6.2 and MODFLOW 2005 !)

Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S. J. (2006). The Groundwater
Modelling Tool for GRASS (GMTG). Open Source groundwater flow modelling.
Computers & Geosciences 32(3):339-351. DOI:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cageo.2005.06.018

There is another paper (in press, Hydrogeology Journal) on which I used
GRASS, R and GMT to analyze the evolution of the groundwater level in the
Basin of Mexico. The DOI It should be available within the next week.

Cheers,

Jaime

__________________________________________________
Correo Yahoo!
Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis!
Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/

__________________________________________
Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
Director of Graduate Studies
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University

phone: 480-965-6213
fax: 480-965-7671
www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton

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3

I think there could be some legal issues.

I.e. from COMPUTERS & GEOSCIENCES Guide for Authors [1] "e) if
accepted, will not be published elsewhere in the same form, in English
or in any
other language, without the written consent of the Publisher."
IANAL but putting article PDF on wiki may be threated as "publishing"?

Maris.

[1] http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/journaldescription.cws_home/398/authorinstructions

2007/7/11, Michael Barton <michael.barton@asu.edu>:

I wonder if we should start a GRASS "library" on the main site or the WIKI
where users could post PDF's or links to papers on using GRASS?

Michael

On 7/11/07 1:03 AM, "Jaime Carrera" <jaicarrerahdez@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> I would just like to thank the GRASS development team for creating such a
nice
> piece of software, as without it I couldn't have done my PhD work. One of
my
> ideas was to show that Open Source software can be used to develop a large
> project (as some people think that free stuff is not good) and the use of
> GRASS, R, GMT, The GIMP and Inkscape was crucial to prove my point.
>
> If someone is interested in some of this work, please follow these links;
if
> someone can't access these links, please let me know and I can send a PDF
copy
> of them.
>
> On the use of GRASS with R and GSTAT to interpolate daily climatological
> variables (rainfall, and both minimum and maximum temperature) using
different
> Kriging methods:
>
> Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S.J. (2007). Spatio temporal analysis
of
> daily precipitation and temperature in the Basin of Mexico. Journal of
> Hydrology. DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jhydrol.2006.12.021
>
> On the use of GRASS in groundwater modeling (Now I have time to update it
for
> GRASS 6.2 and MODFLOW 2005 !)
>
> Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S. J. (2006). The Groundwater
Modelling
> Tool for GRASS (GMTG). Open Source groundwater flow modelling. Computers &
> Geosciences 32(3):339-351. DOI:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cageo.2005.06.018
>
> There is another paper (in press, Hydrogeology Journal) on which I used
GRASS,
> R and GMT to analyze the evolution of the groundwater level in the Basin
of
> Mexico. The DOI It should be available within the next week.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jaime
>
> __________________________________________________
> Correo Yahoo!
> Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis!
> Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/

__________________________________________
Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
Director of Graduate Studies
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University

phone: 480-965-6213
fax: 480-965-7671
www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton

4

I vaguely remember of somewhere in Elsevier's site where it said that
authors even could put the pdfs on personal home-pages, but that the
prefence was for Elsevier to distribute it..

So, yes, it is not legal to put the pdfs on the wiki. BUT it's OK to
put the pdfs of the _uncorrected proofs_ (not sure about the corrected
proofs).

So I guess we can set up a page in the wiki with a list of references,
BibTeX entries, pdfs of uncorrected proofs, and a link (DOI) to the
journal.

Carlos

On 7/11/07, Maris Nartiss <maris.gis@gmail.com> wrote:

I think there could be some legal issues.

I.e. from COMPUTERS & GEOSCIENCES Guide for Authors [1] "e) if
accepted, will not be published elsewhere in the same form, in English
or in any
other language, without the written consent of the Publisher."
IANAL but putting article PDF on wiki may be threated as "publishing"?

Maris.

[1] http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/journaldescription.cws_home/398/authorinstructions

2007/7/11, Michael Barton <michael.barton@asu.edu>:
> I wonder if we should start a GRASS "library" on the main site or the WIKI
> where users could post PDF's or links to papers on using GRASS?
>
> Michael
>
> On 7/11/07 1:03 AM, "Jaime Carrera" <jaicarrerahdez@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I would just like to thank the GRASS development team for creating such a
> nice
> > piece of software, as without it I couldn't have done my PhD work. One of
> my
> > ideas was to show that Open Source software can be used to develop a large
> > project (as some people think that free stuff is not good) and the use of
> > GRASS, R, GMT, The GIMP and Inkscape was crucial to prove my point.
> >
> > If someone is interested in some of this work, please follow these links;
> if
> > someone can't access these links, please let me know and I can send a PDF
> copy
> > of them.
> >
> > On the use of GRASS with R and GSTAT to interpolate daily climatological
> > variables (rainfall, and both minimum and maximum temperature) using
> different
> > Kriging methods:
> >
> > Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S.J. (2007). Spatio temporal analysis
> of
> > daily precipitation and temperature in the Basin of Mexico. Journal of
> > Hydrology. DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jhydrol.2006.12.021
> >
> > On the use of GRASS in groundwater modeling (Now I have time to update it
> for
> > GRASS 6.2 and MODFLOW 2005 !)
> >
> > Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S. J. (2006). The Groundwater
> Modelling
> > Tool for GRASS (GMTG). Open Source groundwater flow modelling. Computers &
> > Geosciences 32(3):339-351. DOI:
> http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cageo.2005.06.018
> >
> > There is another paper (in press, Hydrogeology Journal) on which I used
> GRASS,
> > R and GMT to analyze the evolution of the groundwater level in the Basin
> of
> > Mexico. The DOI It should be available within the next week.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Correo Yahoo!
> > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis!
> > Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/
>
> __________________________________________
> Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
> Director of Graduate Studies
> School of Human Evolution & Social Change
> Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
> Arizona State University
>
> phone: 480-965-6213
> fax: 480-965-7671
> www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton
>

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  Geologist M.Sc - Doctorate Student at IGc-USP - Brazil
Linux User #89721 - carlos dot grohmann at gmail dot com
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
_________________
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95 from my hard drive."
--The winning entry in a "What were HAL's first words" contest judged
by 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY creator Arthur C. Clarke

5

On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 08:16 -0700, Michael Barton wrote:

I wonder if we should start a GRASS "library" on the main site or the
WIKI where users could post PDF's or links to papers on using GRASS?

That's a great idea, but I wonder how practical it is. I don't know how
journals work in other countries, but in the US, many prominent journals
strongly discourage such behavior (pre-publication). After publication,
the journal typically owns copyright to the article, not the author.

This does not apply to US government employees, who's papers are
required to be put in the public domain.

--
73, de Brad KB8UYR/6 <rez touchofmadness com>

6

Michael wrote:

> I wonder if we should start a GRASS "library" on the main site or
> the WIKI where users could post PDF's or links to papers on using
> GRASS?

(we already have one)

Carlos wrote:

This could be a nice addition to the BibTeX list on the Wiki

link:
  http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/wiki/GRASS_Citation_Repository

Mars wrote:

Just out of curiosity, is there any presence of say, an OpenSource
style Journaling?

The OSGeo journal uses a Creative Commons By Attribution - No
Derivatives license:
  http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Journal_License_and_Guidelines

Hamish

7

Been there. You sign a copyright transfer to the publisher on the
finished article, after any rounds of corrections. So you still own
the copyright to the pre-prints.

From there to release those under CC licences, it's legally possible.

Indeed, see: http://romeo.eprints.org/publishers.html for a list of
those publishers that have explicitly stated they encourage this.

Daniel.

On 7/11/07, Carlos Guâno Grohmann <carlos.grohmann@gmail.com> wrote:

I vaguely remember of somewhere in Elsevier's site where it said that
authors even could put the pdfs on personal home-pages, but that the
prefence was for Elsevier to distribute it..

So, yes, it is not legal to put the pdfs on the wiki. BUT it's OK to
put the pdfs of the _uncorrected proofs_ (not sure about the corrected
proofs).

So I guess we can set up a page in the wiki with a list of references,
BibTeX entries, pdfs of uncorrected proofs, and a link (DOI) to the
journal.

Carlos

On 7/11/07, Maris Nartiss <maris.gis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think there could be some legal issues.
>
> I.e. from COMPUTERS & GEOSCIENCES Guide for Authors [1] "e) if
> accepted, will not be published elsewhere in the same form, in English
> or in any
> other language, without the written consent of the Publisher."
> IANAL but putting article PDF on wiki may be threated as "publishing"?
>
> Maris.
>
> [1] http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/journaldescription.cws_home/398/authorinstructions
>
> 2007/7/11, Michael Barton <michael.barton@asu.edu>:
> > I wonder if we should start a GRASS "library" on the main site or the WIKI
> > where users could post PDF's or links to papers on using GRASS?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > On 7/11/07 1:03 AM, "Jaime Carrera" <jaicarrerahdez@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > I would just like to thank the GRASS development team for creating such a
> > nice
> > > piece of software, as without it I couldn't have done my PhD work. One of
> > my
> > > ideas was to show that Open Source software can be used to develop a large
> > > project (as some people think that free stuff is not good) and the use of
> > > GRASS, R, GMT, The GIMP and Inkscape was crucial to prove my point.
> > >
> > > If someone is interested in some of this work, please follow these links;
> > if
> > > someone can't access these links, please let me know and I can send a PDF
> > copy
> > > of them.
> > >
> > > On the use of GRASS with R and GSTAT to interpolate daily climatological
> > > variables (rainfall, and both minimum and maximum temperature) using
> > different
> > > Kriging methods:
> > >
> > > Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S.J. (2007). Spatio temporal analysis
> > of
> > > daily precipitation and temperature in the Basin of Mexico. Journal of
> > > Hydrology. DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jhydrol.2006.12.021
> > >
> > > On the use of GRASS in groundwater modeling (Now I have time to update it
> > for
> > > GRASS 6.2 and MODFLOW 2005 !)
> > >
> > > Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S. J. (2006). The Groundwater
> > Modelling
> > > Tool for GRASS (GMTG). Open Source groundwater flow modelling. Computers &
> > > Geosciences 32(3):339-351. DOI:
> > http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cageo.2005.06.018
> > >
> > > There is another paper (in press, Hydrogeology Journal) on which I used
> > GRASS,
> > > R and GMT to analyze the evolution of the groundwater level in the Basin
> > of
> > > Mexico. The DOI It should be available within the next week.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Jaime
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Correo Yahoo!
> > > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis!
> > > Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/
> >
> > __________________________________________
> > Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
> > Director of Graduate Studies
> > School of Human Evolution & Social Change
> > Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
> > Arizona State University
> >
> > phone: 480-965-6213
> > fax: 480-965-7671
> > www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton
> >
>
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  Geologist M.Sc - Doctorate Student at IGc-USP - Brazil
Linux User #89721 - carlos dot grohmann at gmail dot com
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
_________________
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8

This is from Elsevier's web site:

What rights do I retain as a journal author*?

As a journal author, you retain rights for large number of author
uses, including use by your employing institute or company. These
rights are retained and permitted without the need to obtain specific
permission from Elsevier. These include:

    * the right to make copies (print or electric) of the journal
article for their own personal use, including for their own classroom
teaching use;
    * the right to make copies and distribute copies (including via
e-mail) of the journal article to research colleagues, for personal
use by such colleagues (but not for Commercial Purposes**, as listed
below);
    * the right to post a pre-print version of the journal article on
Internet web sites including electronic pre-print servers, and to
retain indefinitely such version on such servers or sites (see also
our information on electronic preprints for a more detailed discussion
on these points);
    * the right to post a revised personal version of the text of the
final journal article (to reflect changes made in the peer review
process) on the author's personal or institutional web site or server,
incorporating the complete citation and with a link to the Digital
Object Identifier (DOI) of the article;
    * the right to present the journal article at a meeting or
conference and to distribute copies of such paper or article to the
delegates attending the meeting;
    * for the author's employer, if the journal article is a 'work for
hire', made within the scope of the author's employment, the right to
use all or part of the information in (any version of) the journal
article for other intra-company use (e.g. training), including by
posting the article on secure, internal corporate intranets;
    * patent and trademark rights and rights to any process or
procedure described in the journal article;
    * the right to include the journal article, in full or in part, in
a thesis or dissertation;
    * the right to use the journal article or any part thereof in a
printed compilation of works of the author, such as collected writings
or lecture notes (subsequent to publication of the article in the
journal); and
    * the right to prepare other derivative works, to extend the
journal article into book-length form, or to otherwise re-use portions
or excerpts in other works, with full acknowledgement of its original
publication in the journal.

so we _can_ post the pre-print versions.

Carlos

On 7/12/07, Daniel Calvelo <dca.gis@gmail.com> wrote:

Been there. You sign a copyright transfer to the publisher on the
finished article, after any rounds of corrections. So you still own
the copyright to the pre-prints.

From there to release those under CC licences, it's legally possible.
Indeed, see: http://romeo.eprints.org/publishers.html for a list of
those publishers that have explicitly stated they encourage this.

Daniel.

On 7/11/07, Carlos Guâno Grohmann <carlos.grohmann@gmail.com> wrote:
> I vaguely remember of somewhere in Elsevier's site where it said that
> authors even could put the pdfs on personal home-pages, but that the
> prefence was for Elsevier to distribute it..
>
> So, yes, it is not legal to put the pdfs on the wiki. BUT it's OK to
> put the pdfs of the _uncorrected proofs_ (not sure about the corrected
> proofs).
>
> So I guess we can set up a page in the wiki with a list of references,
> BibTeX entries, pdfs of uncorrected proofs, and a link (DOI) to the
> journal.
>
> Carlos
>
> On 7/11/07, Maris Nartiss <maris.gis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think there could be some legal issues.
> >
> > I.e. from COMPUTERS & GEOSCIENCES Guide for Authors [1] "e) if
> > accepted, will not be published elsewhere in the same form, in English
> > or in any
> > other language, without the written consent of the Publisher."
> > IANAL but putting article PDF on wiki may be threated as "publishing"?
> >
> > Maris.
> >
> > [1] http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/journaldescription.cws_home/398/authorinstructions
> >
> > 2007/7/11, Michael Barton <michael.barton@asu.edu>:
> > > I wonder if we should start a GRASS "library" on the main site or the WIKI
> > > where users could post PDF's or links to papers on using GRASS?
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > On 7/11/07 1:03 AM, "Jaime Carrera" <jaicarrerahdez@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear list,
> > > >
> > > > I would just like to thank the GRASS development team for creating such a
> > > nice
> > > > piece of software, as without it I couldn't have done my PhD work. One of
> > > my
> > > > ideas was to show that Open Source software can be used to develop a large
> > > > project (as some people think that free stuff is not good) and the use of
> > > > GRASS, R, GMT, The GIMP and Inkscape was crucial to prove my point.
> > > >
> > > > If someone is interested in some of this work, please follow these links;
> > > if
> > > > someone can't access these links, please let me know and I can send a PDF
> > > copy
> > > > of them.
> > > >
> > > > On the use of GRASS with R and GSTAT to interpolate daily climatological
> > > > variables (rainfall, and both minimum and maximum temperature) using
> > > different
> > > > Kriging methods:
> > > >
> > > > Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S.J. (2007). Spatio temporal analysis
> > > of
> > > > daily precipitation and temperature in the Basin of Mexico. Journal of
> > > > Hydrology. DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jhydrol.2006.12.021
> > > >
> > > > On the use of GRASS in groundwater modeling (Now I have time to update it
> > > for
> > > > GRASS 6.2 and MODFLOW 2005 !)
> > > >
> > > > Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S. J. (2006). The Groundwater
> > > Modelling
> > > > Tool for GRASS (GMTG). Open Source groundwater flow modelling. Computers &
> > > > Geosciences 32(3):339-351. DOI:
> > > http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cageo.2005.06.018
> > > >
> > > > There is another paper (in press, Hydrogeology Journal) on which I used
> > > GRASS,
> > > > R and GMT to analyze the evolution of the groundwater level in the Basin
> > > of
> > > > Mexico. The DOI It should be available within the next week.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Jaime
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > Correo Yahoo!
> > > > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis!
> > > > Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/
> > >
> > > __________________________________________
> > > Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
> > > Director of Graduate Studies
> > > School of Human Evolution & Social Change
> > > Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
> > > Arizona State University
> > >
> > > phone: 480-965-6213
> > > fax: 480-965-7671
> > > www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > grass-dev mailing list
> > grass-dev@grass.itc.it
> > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
> >
>
> --
> +-----------------------------------------------------------+
> Carlos Henrique Grohmann - Guano
> Visiting Researcher at Kingston University London - UK
> Geologist M.Sc - Doctorate Student at IGc-USP - Brazil
> Linux User #89721 - carlos dot grohmann at gmail dot com
> +-----------------------------------------------------------+
> _________________
> "Good morning, doctors. I have taken the liberty of removing Windows
> 95 from my hard drive."
> --The winning entry in a "What were HAL's first words" contest judged
> by 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY creator Arthur C. Clarke
>
> _______________________________________________
> grass-dev mailing list
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>

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Michael Barton wrote:

I wonder if we should start a GRASS "library" on the main site or the
WIKI where users could post PDF's or links to papers on using GRASS?

Michael

Perhaps via OSGEO, so rather than a GRASS focus, it can be used for
other FOSS GIS tools as well. (Unfortunately, GMT & R are not OSGEO
projects, and AFAIK, are not likely to become such).

I'd be interested in references not just to GRASS, but also to QGIS,
GDAL, mapserver, etc....

Brent Wood

On 7/11/07 1:03 AM, "Jaime Carrera" <jaicarrerahdez@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Dear list,

    I would just like to thank the GRASS development team for creating
    such a nice piece of software, as without it I couldn't have done
    my PhD work. One of my ideas was to show that Open Source software
    can be used to develop a large project (as some people think that
    free stuff is not good) and the use of GRASS, R, GMT, The GIMP and
    Inkscape was crucial to prove my point.

    If someone is interested in some of this work, please follow these
    links; if someone can't access these links, please let me know and
    I can send a PDF copy of them.

    On the use of GRASS with R and GSTAT to interpolate daily
    climatological variables (rainfall, and both minimum and maximum
    temperature) using different Kriging methods:

    Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S.J. (2007). Spatio temporal
    analysis of daily precipitation and temperature in the Basin of
    Mexico. Journal of Hydrology. DOI:
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jhydrol.2006.12.021

    On the use of GRASS in groundwater modeling (Now I have time to
    update it for GRASS 6.2 and MODFLOW 2005 !)

    Carrera-Hernandez, J. J. and Gaskin, S. J. (2006). The Groundwater
    Modelling Tool for GRASS (GMTG). Open Source groundwater flow
    modelling. Computers & Geosciences 32(3):339-351. DOI:
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cageo.2005.06.018

    There is another paper (in press, Hydrogeology Journal) on which I
    used GRASS, R and GMT to analyze the evolution of the groundwater
    level in the Basin of Mexico. The DOI It should be available
    within the next week.

    Cheers,

    Jaime

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Just out of curiosity, is there any presence of say, an OpenSource style Journaling?

If there is, what would the legalities of 'publishing' under a GPL (v??) first and then to the big guns?

Also, what, if any, legalities are there about sharing information about GRASS is there?

What are the boundaries of intellectual property, especially if discussing the way the Modules work within GRASS.

I honestly have no clue about such things, but this discussion has perked my curiosity.

cheers.

Mars

On 11-Jul-07, at 3:25 PM, Brad Douglas wrote:

On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 08:16 -0700, Michael Barton wrote:

I wonder if we should start a GRASS "library" on the main site or the
WIKI where users could post PDF's or links to papers on using GRASS?

That's a great idea, but I wonder how practical it is. I don't know how
journals work in other countries, but in the US, many prominent journals
strongly discourage such behavior (pre-publication). After publication,
the journal typically owns copyright to the article, not the author.

This does not apply to US government employees, who's papers are
required to be put in the public domain.

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On Wednesday 11 July 2007 13:12, Maris Nartiss wrote:

I think there could be some legal issues.

I.e. from COMPUTERS & GEOSCIENCES Guide for Authors [1] "e) if
accepted, will not be published elsewhere in the same form, in English
or in any
other language, without the written consent of the Publisher."
IANAL but putting article PDF on wiki may be threated as "publishing"?

Maris.

The key phrase is the one that reads ". . . in the same form . . ." Just as
the author has a copyright to his or her own original work, so does the
publisher retain rights with respect to how the paper is published in their
journal. All the formatting and apearance of the piece, as well as the
editing and proof work were paid for by the publisher, any illustrations that
they developed for you, etc. Thus, they don't want you giving away their
work for free. So, first rule is don't post copies of the published version
as it appears in the journal without explicit (written) permission, which is
what they are saying anyway.

IF you sign a transfer of copyright, things are different. Effectively you
have turned over your rights to the text and your own work, with the
exception of whatever uses they tell you that you retain. (In the music
industry many composers and lyricists have completely lost the right to
perform their own works without permission.) You might have to rewrite the
whole thing in a different form before using it again. Of course, when you
look at the way in which some researchers wall paper various journals with
closely related papers that all effectively say the same thing, this must be
pretty common. Sometimes the biggest difference between two related articles
seems to be the order in which the authors are listed.

JWDougherty

12

I DO have a "rough draft" of my COMPUTERS & GEOSCIENCES article posted on my
website. That rough draft was then edited and published in that journal.
Based on the instructions at that time, what I did was perfectly legal and
fine. It would be wrong of me to use their digital or analog versions, in
any way, to modify or improve my draft. Changes made to my rough draft would
then be infringing on "their" (copyrighted) work.

One safe way of looking at it, once C&G has accepted a paper for
publication, you should not make any changes to the draft you sent in.
Otherwise, you would be in danger of exploiting their work.

Some journals are more strict than C&G: so this isn't even a blanket rule.

Sincerely, chuck

Chuck Ehlschlaeger, Associate Professor & GIS Center Director
Department of Geography, Western Illinois University
215 Tillman Hall, 1 University Circle, Macomb, IL 61455
cre111@wiu.edu, phone: 309-298-1841, fax: 309-298-3003

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On Wednesday 11 July 2007 13:12, Maris Nartiss wrote:

I think there could be some legal issues.

I.e. from COMPUTERS & GEOSCIENCES Guide for Authors [1] "e) if
accepted, will not be published elsewhere in the same form, in English
or in any
other language, without the written consent of the Publisher."
IANAL but putting article PDF on wiki may be threated as "publishing"?

Maris.

The key phrase is the one that reads ". . . in the same form . . ." Just as

the author has a copyright to his or her own original work, so does the
publisher retain rights with respect to how the paper is published in their
journal. All the formatting and apearance of the piece, as well as the
editing and proof work were paid for by the publisher, any illustrations
that
they developed for you, etc. Thus, they don't want you giving away their
work for free. So, first rule is don't post copies of the published version

as it appears in the journal without explicit (written) permission, which is

what they are saying anyway.

IF you sign a transfer of copyright, things are different. Effectively you
have turned over your rights to the text and your own work, with the
exception of whatever uses they tell you that you retain. (In the music
industry many composers and lyricists have completely lost the right to
perform their own works without permission.) You might have to rewrite the
whole thing in a different form before using it again. Of course, when you
look at the way in which some researchers wall paper various journals with
closely related papers that all effectively say the same thing, this must be

pretty common. Sometimes the biggest difference between two related
articles
seems to be the order in which the authors are listed.

JWDougherty

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On Friday 13 July 2007 13:20, Charles Ehlschlaeger wrote:

It would be wrong of me to use their digital or analog versions, in
any way, to modify or improve my draft. Changes made to my rough draft
would then be infringing on "their" (copyrighted) work.

Precisely what I was saying. The original draft, or a version modified by you
without "their" help, is still yours and your copyright, and can be handled
in any way you wish. But they can get real hinky about the use of "their"
work. Just out of curiousity, does C&G pay their authors? There some
journals that don't and insist on copyright assignments any way. Apparently
the "recognition" the author gets is considered compensation enough.

I think a GRASS library accessible on-line would be a really important tool
for any GRASS user. You can always add errata pages for corrections you want
to introduce to a draft, or annotate textual differences between your draft
and any published version. That would go toward fair use under any rules I
know of; it's standard citation practice.

JWDougherty