[GRASS-user] How to avoid Grass84 compiling against the system Python3.6?

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Hi @grass-users,

I posted the following on libera.chat#grass but it seemed like there isn't much activity on there (pls. excuse if I'm wrong on that).

I spent the day learning how to compile the grass8.4dev source, and managed to get the app to compile, and fire up
but there's a glitch, it compiled against the system python which is only v3.6 (not compatible based on REQUIREMENTS file)
and I don't know how to point it at python v3.11.

This is on OpenSuse 15.5 Linux, btw, and though the Grass application windows work well, I get errors in the console related mostly to python,
when trying to use the various modules, for example using r.in.png.

I've tried per-user setting python3 aliased to v3.11 in my .bashrc, but no luck Grass still shows v3.6 in Help/about/system ..

I'm wondering whether I should use update-alternatives approach, and also wondering whether the problem might be related to wxpython3 being linked to the system python and not v3.11.

I haven't compiled wxpython separately.

I'm just hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction :slight_smile:

Barry

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I understand you are using openSUSE Leap. At the moment I cannot check which Python version is offered there as base. Are you sure you cant install a newer version? If that is not possible you could perhaps install a newer version using your own separate local environment, using miniforge, for example.

I use openSUSE Tumbleweed and always build from source. Python 3.11 is the base version now, with 3.12 starting to be rolled in. Perhaps it is not too crazy to try TW?

Good luck!

Hernán

Den tors 21 mars 2024 01:23Barry Keeling via grass-user <grass-user@lists.osgeo.org> skrev:

Hi @grass-users,

I posted the following on libera.chat#grass but it seemed like there
isn’t much activity on there (pls. excuse if I’m wrong on that).

I spent the day learning how to compile the grass8.4dev source, and
managed to get the app to compile, and fire up
but there’s a glitch, it compiled against the system python which is
only v3.6 (not compatible based on REQUIREMENTS file)
and I don’t know how to point it at python v3.11.

This is on OpenSuse 15.5 Linux, btw, and though the Grass application
windows work well, I get errors in the console related mostly to python,
when trying to use the various modules, for example using r.in.png.

I’ve tried per-user setting python3 aliased to v3.11 in my .bashrc, but
no luck Grass still shows v3.6 in Help/about/system …

I’m wondering whether I should use update-alternatives approach, and
also wondering whether the problem might be related to wxpython3 being
linked to the system python and not v3.11.

I haven’t compiled wxpython separately.

I’m just hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction :slight_smile:

Barry

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There is GRASS_PYTHON variable you can try. Running GRASS in virtual environment should work too.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 2:39 AM Hernán De Angelis via grass-user <grass-user@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

I understand you are using openSUSE Leap. At the moment I cannot check which Python version is offered there as base. Are you sure you cant install a newer version? If that is not possible you could perhaps install a newer version using your own separate local environment, using miniforge, for example.

I use openSUSE Tumbleweed and always build from source. Python 3.11 is the base version now, with 3.12 starting to be rolled in. Perhaps it is not too crazy to try TW?

Good luck!

Hernán

Den tors 21 mars 2024 01:23Barry Keeling via grass-user <grass-user@lists.osgeo.org> skrev:

Hi @grass-users,

I posted the following on libera.chat#grass but it seemed like there
isn’t much activity on there (pls. excuse if I’m wrong on that).

I spent the day learning how to compile the grass8.4dev source, and
managed to get the app to compile, and fire up
but there’s a glitch, it compiled against the system python which is
only v3.6 (not compatible based on REQUIREMENTS file)
and I don’t know how to point it at python v3.11.

This is on OpenSuse 15.5 Linux, btw, and though the Grass application
windows work well, I get errors in the console related mostly to python,
when trying to use the various modules, for example using r.in.png.

I’ve tried per-user setting python3 aliased to v3.11 in my .bashrc, but
no luck Grass still shows v3.6 in Help/about/system …

I’m wondering whether I should use update-alternatives approach, and
also wondering whether the problem might be related to wxpython3 being
linked to the system python and not v3.11.

I haven’t compiled wxpython separately.

I’m just hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction :slight_smile:

Barry

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Anna, and Hernán (and @grass-users),

Many thanks for your helpful suggestions. In fact you both helped me in finding the solution to the issue I’ve had getting Grass compiled against a newer Python than the one in the OpenSuse 15.5 base system. Your replies gave me the confidence to pursue building the Grass application with Python v3.11, and to use a Python virtual environment in doing so.

I’m very happy to report, that today [Sat] I managed to build the latest development release Grass from source, and the python-related errors are now gone :

System Info :
GRASS version: 8.4.0dev
Code revision: exported
Build date: 2024-03-23
Build platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
GDAL: 3.8.4
PROJ: 9.3.1
GEOS: 3.12.1
SQLite: 3.44.0
Python: 3.11.8
wxPython: 4.2.1
Platform: Linux-5.14.21-150500.55.52-default-x86_64-with-glibc2.31

The steps :

  1. Build wxPython in a temporary Python v3.11 virtual environment (using this as a go by: https://wxpython.org/blog/2017-08-17-builds-for-linux-with-pip/index.html ).
  • Note: this was made more difficult because there is a wxPython bug relating to setup on OpenSuse (see this link for details :

https://github.com/wxWidgets/Phoenix/issues/1067,

and specifically this comment by Frank78 : https://github.com/wxWidgets/Phoenix/issues/1067#issuecomment-685175041)

  1. Create a wheel file, from the wxPython build using pip (still in the same venv).

  2. Exit that venv, and then activate my usual Python v3.11 venv, navigate to the the directory containing the new wxPython wheel and install it with pip.

  3. Then, still in my usual Python v3.11 venv, change directory to a clean instance of the Grass 8.4 development snapshot I’d downloaded previously.

  4. In the bash console, set the following : export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/local:/usr/local/lib64

  5. Run the configure command with all the required options, then when that finishes successfully …

7a. set this : export GRASS_RANDOM_SEED=1234

7b. initiate the build with this : make prefix=/usr/local PREFIX=/usr/local -j4

  1. The build finished :

GRASS GIS 8.4.0dev exported compilation log

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On 22/03/2024 14:00, Anna Petrášová wrote:

There is GRASS_PYTHON variable you can try. Running GRASS in virtual environment should work too.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 2:39 AM Hernán De Angelis via grass-user <grass-user@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

I understand you are using openSUSE Leap. At the moment I cannot check which Python version is offered there as base. Are you sure you cant install a newer version? If that is not possible you could perhaps install a newer version using your own separate local environment, using miniforge, for example.

I use openSUSE Tumbleweed and always build from source. Python 3.11 is the base version now, with 3.12 starting to be rolled in. Perhaps it is not too crazy to try TW?

Good luck!

Hernán

Den tors 21 mars 2024 01:23Barry Keeling via grass-user <grass-user@lists.osgeo.org> skrev:

Hi @grass-users,

I posted the following on libera.chat#grass but it seemed like there
isn’t much activity on there (pls. excuse if I’m wrong on that).

I spent the day learning how to compile the grass8.4dev source, and
managed to get the app to compile, and fire up
but there’s a glitch, it compiled against the system python which is
only v3.6 (not compatible based on REQUIREMENTS file)
and I don’t know how to point it at python v3.11.

This is on OpenSuse 15.5 Linux, btw, and though the Grass application
windows work well, I get errors in the console related mostly to python,
when trying to use the various modules, for example using r.in.png.

I’ve tried per-user setting python3 aliased to v3.11 in my .bashrc, but
no luck Grass still shows v3.6 in Help/about/system …

I’m wondering whether I should use update-alternatives approach, and
also wondering whether the problem might be related to wxpython3 being
linked to the system python and not v3.11.

I haven’t compiled wxpython separately.

I’m just hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction :slight_smile:

Barry

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Maybe that would be useful for https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/discussions/3501. We didn’t know where to go with this, but there seems to be a way with what you did

Edouard Choinière

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On 22/03/2024 14:00, Anna Petrášová wrote:

There is GRASS_PYTHON variable you can try. Running GRASS in virtual environment should work too.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 2:39 AM Hernán De Angelis via grass-user <grass-user@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

I understand you are using openSUSE Leap. At the moment I cannot check which Python version is offered there as base. Are you sure you cant install a newer version? If that is not possible you could perhaps install a newer version using your own separate local environment, using miniforge, for example.

I use openSUSE Tumbleweed and always build from source. Python 3.11 is the base version now, with 3.12 starting to be rolled in. Perhaps it is not too crazy to try TW?

Good luck!

Hernán

Den tors 21 mars 2024 01:23Barry Keeling via grass-user <grass-user@lists.osgeo.org> skrev:

Hi @grass-users,

I posted the following on libera.chat#grass but it seemed like there
isn’t much activity on there (pls. excuse if I’m wrong on that).

I spent the day learning how to compile the grass8.4dev source, and
managed to get the app to compile, and fire up
but there’s a glitch, it compiled against the system python which is
only v3.6 (not compatible based on REQUIREMENTS file)
and I don’t know how to point it at python v3.11.

This is on OpenSuse 15.5 Linux, btw, and though the Grass application
windows work well, I get errors in the console related mostly to python,
when trying to use the various modules, for example using r.in.png.

I’ve tried per-user setting python3 aliased to v3.11 in my .bashrc, but
no luck Grass still shows v3.6 in Help/about/system …

I’m wondering whether I should use update-alternatives approach, and
also wondering whether the problem might be related to wxpython3 being
linked to the system python and not v3.11.

I haven’t compiled wxpython separately.

I’m just hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction :slight_smile:

Barry

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