[GRASSLIST:5836] V.import and v.in.tiger.scs

Why does it seem that certain binaries are missing from the installation of grass from your OpenOsX cd? I find certain commands in the manual pages that seem to be current, but then the commands do not exist in grass.

For example, the man page states that there would be 8 option for v.import, your release offers 3. Also vi.in.tiger.scs does not seem to exists, as well as a vi.in.tig.rim and a few others.

Is there a place to download these commands seperately? or are they part of 5.0.1 beta?

Schuyler Fishman
Schuylerfish@earthlink.net
www.mindlikesky.com

Schuyler Fishman wrote:

Why does it seem that certain binaries are missing from the
installation of grass from your OpenOsX cd? I find certain commands in
the manual pages that seem to be current, but then the commands do not
exist in grass.

For example, the man page states that there would be 8 option for
v.import, your release offers 3. Also vi.in.tiger.scs does not seem to
exists, as well as a vi.in.tig.rim and a few others.

Is there a place to download these commands seperately? or are they
part of 5.0.1 beta?

Unfortunately, GRASS manual pages tend to persist long after the
program which they describe has been disabled or removed. Also,
programs are often updated without the manual pages being updated
accordingly.

Neither v.in.tiger.scs nor v.in.tig.rim are in any GRASS binary
distribution. The source code still exists in the CVS repository, and
in the source code packages, but it isn't compiled by default. This
normally indicates that the code doesn't work. However, the build
system doesn't provide any mechanism to prevent specific manual pages
from making it into the binary distribution.

Regarding v.import, the manual page is clearly very outdated; v.import
only had three options in GRASS 4.3, and still only has three options
in the latest CVS versions.

None of these issues are specific to the OpenOSX CD; they apply
equally to the binary distributions which are available from the GRASS
web site.

--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>

Hi,

I've also used the OpenOSX GRASS installer CD. I found that v.in.mif was missing - OpenOSX sent me a binary copy of the module but I haven't been able to get it to work (unpacked it into the correct directory but it isn't found by GRASS). Also, my installation does not support the PNG graphics driver - I can't find the Gd library on the installation disc so it may be missing that.

Are these also more general than the OpenOSX disc?

David

On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 04:03 PM, Glynn Clements wrote:

Schuyler Fishman wrote:

Why does it seem that certain binaries are missing from the
installation of grass from your OpenOsX cd? I find certain commands in
the manual pages that seem to be current, but then the commands do not
exist in grass.

For example, the man page states that there would be 8 option for
v.import, your release offers 3. Also vi.in.tiger.scs does not seem to
exists, as well as a vi.in.tig.rim and a few others.

Is there a place to download these commands seperately? or are they
part of 5.0.1 beta?

Unfortunately, GRASS manual pages tend to persist long after the
program which they describe has been disabled or removed. Also,
programs are often updated without the manual pages being updated
accordingly.

Neither v.in.tiger.scs nor v.in.tig.rim are in any GRASS binary
distribution. The source code still exists in the CVS repository, and
in the source code packages, but it isn't compiled by default. This
normally indicates that the code doesn't work. However, the build
system doesn't provide any mechanism to prevent specific manual pages
from making it into the binary distribution.

Regarding v.import, the manual page is clearly very outdated; v.import
only had three options in GRASS 4.3, and still only has three options
in the latest CVS versions.

None of these issues are specific to the OpenOSX CD; they apply
equally to the binary distributions which are available from the GRASS
web site.

--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>

On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 04:03:26PM +0000, Glynn Clements wrote:

Schuyler Fishman wrote:

> Why does it seem that certain binaries are missing from the
> installation of grass from your OpenOsX cd? I find certain commands in
> the manual pages that seem to be current, but then the commands do not
> exist in grass.
>
> For example, the man page states that there would be 8 option for
> v.import, your release offers 3. Also vi.in.tiger.scs does not seem to
> exists, as well as a vi.in.tig.rim and a few others.
>
> Is there a place to download these commands seperately? or are they
> part of 5.0.1 beta?

Unfortunately, GRASS manual pages tend to persist long after the
program which they describe has been disabled or removed. Also,
programs are often updated without the manual pages being updated
accordingly.

This will be hopefully solved from GRASS 5.1.x/5.2.x onwards when
the documentation is only generated for commands being compiled.

Markus Neteler

David Orme wrote:

I've also used the OpenOSX GRASS installer CD. I found that v.in.mif
was missing

v.in.mif is no longer built by default.

- OpenOSX sent me a binary copy of the module but I haven't
been able to get it to work (unpacked it into the correct directory but
it isn't found by GRASS).

The actual binary should go into the etc/bin/cmd subdirectory, within
the GRASS installation directory. However, you also have to create a
link to the etc/front.end program in the bin subdirectory, i.e.

  ln /usr/local/grass5/etc/front.end /usr/local/grass5/bin/v.in.mif

[If GRASS is installed somewhere other than /usr/local/grass5, modify
the above accordingly.]

Also, my installation does not support the
PNG graphics driver - I can't find the Gd library on the installation
disc so it may be missing that.

If you can't locate a binary version, the origin site for GD is:

  http://www.boutell.com/gd/

However, you need to use the same major version as was used for
building the PNG driver (i.e. a PNG driver built with GD 2.x won't
work with GD 1.x).

--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>

I have download arc info export boundary file versions of the tiger data and
imported them using m.in.e00. That all seems to go fine, but when I run v.report. I get and
error which no other info than ERROR. Where would I start trying to debug?

On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 04:58 AM, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 04:03:26PM +0000, Glynn Clements wrote:

Schuyler Fishman wrote:

Why does it seem that certain binaries are missing from the
installation of grass from your OpenOsX cd? I find certain commands in
the manual pages that seem to be current, but then the commands do not
exist in grass.

For example, the man page states that there would be 8 option for
v.import, your release offers 3. Also vi.in.tiger.scs does not seem to
exists, as well as a vi.in.tig.rim and a few others.

Is there a place to download these commands seperately? or are they
part of 5.0.1 beta?

Unfortunately, GRASS manual pages tend to persist long after the
program which they describe has been disabled or removed. Also,
programs are often updated without the manual pages being updated
accordingly.

This will be hopefully solved from GRASS 5.1.x/5.2.x onwards when
the documentation is only generated for commands being compiled.

Markus Neteler

Schuyler Fishman
Schuylerfish@earthlink.net
www.mindlikesky.com