On 19/09/2014 7:09 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
2014-09-18 5:05 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Yes, technically I [Cameron] was the last person in the chair role, and still
occasionally officiate over requests for budget, but the marketing
committee is almost totally inactive. (The previous active members are all
currently active in the OSGeo-Live community).
Ok Cameron, do you have any suggestions on how to revive the Marketing Committee? It has become one of the most important needs/challenges lately, and it needs some love and direction. There are lots of young hungry talented people out there in the OSGeo community these days with a design sense, maybe we need to put out a call for volunteers, what do you think?
We have a few things to address in OSGeo marketing:
1. We don't have an efficient micro-payment system, for say paying someone $100 to cover costs of printing a few fliers for a local foss4g event. (I think each cheque costs $30 to write).
2. We need to revamp our wiki, probably throw away most existing content, as it is too hard for anyone to work out what is/is not in scope for marketing funding. We need to replace with clear guidelines and priorities.
3. As highlighted at last foss4g, USB printers often are not competent enough to print bootable USBs. (OSGeo-Live USBs are one of our key marketing tools). So we probably need to find a trusted USB printer, then get them to ship to worthy causes.
--
Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099
Jeroen,
A PayPal account is a good idea (and has been suggested before).
As yet, no one has taken the next step of volunteering to set it up, and document a process for how to use it.
If a volunteer steps forward, I expect:
1. Board will approve.
2. Marketing committee will start using it.
3. Marketing committee will become functional again.
On 20/09/2014 8:49 am, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
What about running a PayPal account? It also has a cost, but is much lower (a percentage of the sum transferred) and worth for smaller amounts. It also makes it really easy to do a transfer. With GeoCat (and I'm sure many others as well) we have good experience with PayPal for transfers to and from the most remote places where a wire transfer is really expensive.
Jeroen
On 19 sep. 2014, at 23:09, Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com> wrote:
As we transition to a new bank, that cost will drop (or even go away). Wire transfers would still probably have some cost but checks should be free or near so.
Michael Smith
Remote Sensing/GIS Center
US Army Corps of Engineers
On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
On 2014-09-19 5:44 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
We have a few things to address in OSGeo marketing:
1. We don't have an efficient micro-payment system, for say paying
someone $100 to cover costs of printing a few fliers for a local foss4g
event. (I think each cheque costs $30 to write).
Interesting, I wasn't aware of the $30 cheque issue. I wonder if there is some other way to avoid this cost.
2. We need to revamp our wiki, probably throw away most existing
content, as it is too hard for anyone to work out what is/is not in
scope for marketing funding. We need to replace with clear guidelines
and priorities.
I agree with the full cleanup / starting over.
3. As highlighted at last foss4g, USB printers often are not competent
enough to print bootable USBs. (OSGeo-Live USBs are one of our key
marketing tools). So we probably need to find a trusted USB printer,
then get them to ship to worthy causes.
Boy Cameron you are right on that one. Other OSGeo-Live leads like BrianH and Angelos both told me in Portland that we, OSGeo, should be finding one single distributor for bootable USBs, test a small batch with them, then distribute to all events from that one distributor - exactly what you just said here.
-jeff
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P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099
Hi Michael,
Not sure I understand. I thought we were discussing small amounts, e.g. for printing flyers locally. Only with 1500$+ amounts would a wire transfer be more economic, right?
Thanks,
Jeroen
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Op 20 sep. 2014 om 01:30 heeft Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
PayPal charges 0.5% to 2% fee on sending international. An international
wire transfer from the back is $30. For the amounts that we send, its
usually cheaper for a wire transfer.
Mike
--
Michael Smith
US Army Corps
Remote Sensing GIS/Center
On 9/19/14, 7:00 PM, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeroen,
A PayPal account is a good idea (and has been suggested before).
As yet, no one has taken the next step of volunteering to set it up, and
document a process for how to use it.
If a volunteer steps forward, I expect:
1. Board will approve.
2. Marketing committee will start using it.
3. Marketing committee will become functional again.
On 20/09/2014 8:49 am, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
What about running a PayPal account? It also has a cost, but is much
lower (a percentage of the sum transferred) and worth for smaller
amounts. It also makes it really easy to do a transfer. With GeoCat (and
I'm sure many others as well) we have good experience with PayPal for
transfers to and from the most remote places where a wire transfer is
really expensive.
Jeroen
On 19 sep. 2014, at 23:09, Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com>
wrote:
As we transition to a new bank, that cost will drop (or even go away).
Wire transfers would still probably have some cost but checks should be
free or near so.
Michael Smith
Remote Sensing/GIS Center
US Army Corps of Engineers
On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Jeff McKenna
<jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
On 2014-09-19 5:44 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
We have a few things to address in OSGeo marketing:
1. We don't have an efficient micro-payment system, for say paying
someone $100 to cover costs of printing a few fliers for a local
foss4g
event. (I think each cheque costs $30 to write).
Interesting, I wasn't aware of the $30 cheque issue. I wonder if
there is some other way to avoid this cost.
2. We need to revamp our wiki, probably throw away most existing
content, as it is too hard for anyone to work out what is/is not in
scope for marketing funding. We need to replace with clear guidelines
and priorities.
I agree with the full cleanup / starting over.
3. As highlighted at last foss4g, USB printers often are not
competent
enough to print bootable USBs. (OSGeo-Live USBs are one of our key
marketing tools). So we probably need to find a trusted USB printer,
then get them to ship to worthy causes.
Boy Cameron you are right on that one. Other OSGeo-Live leads like
BrianH and Angelos both told me in Portland that we, OSGeo, should be
finding one single distributor for bootable USBs, test a small batch
with them, then distribute to all events from that one distributor -
exactly what you just said here.
-jeff
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LISAsoft
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26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099
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Another good option is for OSGeo to have a European bank account. Wire transfers within the eu zone are free. That's a large number of countries where we could potentially save a lot on transfer costs.
Cheers,
Jeroen
GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.
_________________________
Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net
Op 20 sep. 2014 om 01:30 heeft Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
PayPal charges 0.5% to 2% fee on sending international. An international
wire transfer from the back is $30. For the amounts that we send, its
usually cheaper for a wire transfer.
Mike
--
Michael Smith
US Army Corps
Remote Sensing GIS/Center
On 9/19/14, 7:00 PM, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeroen,
A PayPal account is a good idea (and has been suggested before).
As yet, no one has taken the next step of volunteering to set it up, and
document a process for how to use it.
If a volunteer steps forward, I expect:
1. Board will approve.
2. Marketing committee will start using it.
3. Marketing committee will become functional again.
On 20/09/2014 8:49 am, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
What about running a PayPal account? It also has a cost, but is much
lower (a percentage of the sum transferred) and worth for smaller
amounts. It also makes it really easy to do a transfer. With GeoCat (and
I'm sure many others as well) we have good experience with PayPal for
transfers to and from the most remote places where a wire transfer is
really expensive.
Jeroen
On 19 sep. 2014, at 23:09, Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com>
wrote:
As we transition to a new bank, that cost will drop (or even go away).
Wire transfers would still probably have some cost but checks should be
free or near so.
Michael Smith
Remote Sensing/GIS Center
US Army Corps of Engineers
On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Jeff McKenna
<jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
On 2014-09-19 5:44 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
We have a few things to address in OSGeo marketing:
1. We don't have an efficient micro-payment system, for say paying
someone $100 to cover costs of printing a few fliers for a local
foss4g
event. (I think each cheque costs $30 to write).
Interesting, I wasn't aware of the $30 cheque issue. I wonder if
there is some other way to avoid this cost.
2. We need to revamp our wiki, probably throw away most existing
content, as it is too hard for anyone to work out what is/is not in
scope for marketing funding. We need to replace with clear guidelines
and priorities.
I agree with the full cleanup / starting over.
3. As highlighted at last foss4g, USB printers often are not
competent
enough to print bootable USBs. (OSGeo-Live USBs are one of our key
marketing tools). So we probably need to find a trusted USB printer,
then get them to ship to worthy causes.
Boy Cameron you are right on that one. Other OSGeo-Live leads like
BrianH and Angelos both told me in Portland that we, OSGeo, should be
finding one single distributor for bootable USBs, test a small batch
with them, then distribute to all events from that one distributor -
exactly what you just said here.
-jeff
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099
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