[Marketing] code sprint, content migration, generation starts now

Okay at the FOSS4G Europe code sprint and setting up shop.

  1. Jeffrey has started some google forms to quickly stage content for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and ask the people here to play test (and we can share with discuss@osgeo.org at the end of the day).

  2. Website/Rebranding presentation → will upload to slide share.

  3. Beta website URL has been provided during last meeting; apparently I can share this?

http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/

  • this is three days old - fun to see it all come together
  • I am unable to login from my current location; although I was sent instructions.
  • It shows work done in the last several days (website, geoforall and some placeholders exist
  1. drupal website database and directories
  • Jeff McKenna has access, hope to catch up with him today, but there is a zoo-project sprint
  1. schedule

Our schedule has the following actions for OSGeo:

  • June 14th (done): Confirm date website training at FOSS4G by Guido

  • June 28th: Acceptance/test LDAP server

  • June 28th: Acceptance WordPress webserver

  • July 26th: Production WordPress webserver

  • July 27th: Start acceptance testing

  • August 2th: Deliver feedback from initial users

  • August 9th: Knowledge transfer, training of OSGeo stakeholders

···
  1. Astrid is helping people write information sheets using the SVG here:

https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/marketing/print

(we do not have a template yet but this is “good”).

  1. For those at the code sprint:
  • Brochure meeting improvements 1pm (and send email to marketing)
  • Website content form review 3pm (and send to discuss@osgeo.org)


Jody Garnett

  1. Jeffrey has started some google forms to quickly stage content for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and ask the people here to play test (and we can share with discuss@osgeo.org at the end of the day).

The first form is now ready, but I am not quite sure how to provide a sharable URL:

Software Projects

That is a shareable URL :slight_smile:

···

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 5:44 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

  1. Jeffrey has started some google forms to quickly stage content for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and ask the people here to play test (and we can share with discuss@osgeo.org at the end of the day).

The first form is now ready, but I am not quite sure how to provide a sharable URL:

Software Projects


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Second form is now ready:

Service Providers

It is proving interesting to try these out, provide descriptions, and fill in missing fields (such as organization URL and team photo URL).

···

On 22 July 2017 at 14:44, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

  1. Jeffrey has started some google forms to quickly stage content for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and ask the people here to play test (and we can share with discuss@osgeo.org at the end of the day).

The first form is now ready, but I am not quite sure how to provide a sharable URL:

Software Projects


Jody Garnett

On 22 July 2017 at 11:29, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

6) Astrid is helping people write information sheets using the SVG here:

https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/marketing/print

(we do not have a template yet but this is "good").

Astred lead a team reviewing the printed material and would like to make
some changes before Boston.
- A few small changes to text (moving deegree up next to mapserver and
geoserver) changing the last category to "web mapping".
- remove the bullet point for local chapters (since we have a section for
that)
- remove the "software foundation section and change to a bullet point
(sigh, tough but correct choice)
- remove bullet point about foss4g and make a section for foss4g and events
(since that is about new people)
- and so on ...

My understanding is that the google doc will be edited; I only have access
to the PDF so I am not sure if we can fix before Boston.

Marc left me with instructions for printing; we are going to try and get
content shipped to hotel (rather than complicate things for the local
organizing committee). I will work with OSGeo treasurer to print.

All,

There is good content in these forms. I recognise a lot of as being derived from prior initiatives. Great.

I suggest taking a step back, and asking:

What is OSGeo’s content creation and distribution pipeline?

What product(s) are being created with this content?

How are we going to ensure the content is being kept up to date? (The original 1 page PDF fliers created for OSGeo projects was created once, then became very out of date and collectively become unusable as a source of truth). OSGeo-Live has a process for updating documentation with each release, how can we lever that?

How can we minimise the duplication of content creation? Duplication leads to multiple points of truth getting out of date, and increases maintenance. Can we extend OSGeo-Live content creation process rather than creating another? Or alternatively have OSGeo-Live extend a newly created process?

Documentation processes which have potential to be aligned are:

Cheers, Cameron

···

On 22/7/17 10:44 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:

  1. Jeffrey has started some google forms to quicklcy stage content for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and ask the people here to play test (and we can share with discuss@osgeo.org at the end of the day).

The first form is now ready, but I am not quite sure how to provide a sharable URL:

Software Projects

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
[Marketing@lists.osgeo.org](mailto:Marketing@lists.osgeo.org)
[https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing](https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing)
-- 
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254

Cameron this is just a stop gap as we do not have login to the beta website. In addition to these forms the existing osgeo live overview are also a source of information (perhaps these forms could add a link to osgeo live overview if available.)

The key new information appears to be screen snaps and team photo and the level 1 level 2 category information (which would be interesting for osgeo live to adopt) and what service providers are considered contributors.

The osgeo live team has been working very hard on the latest release and has not had capacity to work on this initiative, by the same token the content being gathered was established in June (the scope of this project is fixed and we do not have volunteers to establish consider process - unless you are interested).

The best idea I have heard is about.yaml or similar being committee into each repo and used to generate one page flyers, overviews and these web pages. However given the deadlines (some of which have passed) this idea has not been pursued.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:31 AM Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

All,

There is good content in these forms. I recognise a lot of as being derived from prior initiatives. Great.

I suggest taking a step back, and asking:

What is OSGeo’s content creation and distribution pipeline?

What product(s) are being created with this content?

How are we going to ensure the content is being kept up to date? (The original 1 page PDF fliers created for OSGeo projects was created once, then became very out of date and collectively become unusable as a source of truth). OSGeo-Live has a process for updating documentation with each release, how can we lever that?

How can we minimise the duplication of content creation? Duplication leads to multiple points of truth getting out of date, and increases maintenance. Can we extend OSGeo-Live content creation process rather than creating another? Or alternatively have OSGeo-Live extend a newly created process?

Documentation processes which have potential to be aligned are:

Cheers, Cameron

On 22/7/17 10:44 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:

  1. Jeffrey has started some google forms to quicklcy stage content for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and ask the people here to play test (and we can share with discuss@osgeo.org at the end of the day).

The first form is now ready, but I am not quite sure how to provide a sharable URL:

Software Projects

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
[Marketing@lists.osgeo.org](mailto:Marketing@lists.osgeo.org)
[https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing](https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing)
-- 
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254

Live-demo mailing list
Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
http://live.osgeo.org
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc


Jody Garnett

Hi Jody,

I think it might be helpful to discuss this in real time online. The osgeo-live weekly meeting will be in ~ 10 hours if you want to drop by:

irc://freenode.net#osgeolive

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=20&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=189&p3=224&p4=22&p5=240&p6=196&p7=215

If I understand correctly, there is currently budget and intent to create project write ups, without a strategy for long term maintenance. If that is the case, I suggest not creating such material at all. Rather just create a list of projects which references either the projects directly, or OSGeo-Live project overviews. I’m ok with Project Overviews being copied verbatim, but I’m not ok with creating slight variant on the Project Overviews.

For projects (such as some community projects, which haven’t created a project overview for OSGeo-Live,) I suggest using the OSGeo-Live format initially. Then on a future iteration of OSGeo-Live, adopt a new template (as proposed by the marketing committee).

···

On 24/7/17 9:40 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Cameron this is just a stop gap as we do not have login to the beta website. In addition to these forms the existing osgeo live overview are also a source of information (perhaps these forms could add a link to osgeo live overview if available.)

The key new information appears to be screen snaps and team photo and the level 1 level 2 category information (which would be interesting for osgeo live to adopt) and what service providers are considered contributors.

The osgeo live team has been working very hard on the latest release and has not had capacity to work on this initiative, by the same token the content being gathered was established in June (the scope of this project is fixed and we do not have volunteers to establish consider process - unless you are interested).

The best idea I have heard is about.yaml or similar being committee into each repo and used to generate one page flyers, overviews and these web pages. However given the deadlines (some of which have passed) this idea has not been pursued.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:31 AM Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

All,

There is good content in these forms. I recognise a lot of as being derived from prior initiatives. Great.

I suggest taking a step back, and asking:

What is OSGeo’s content creation and distribution pipeline?

What product(s) are being created with this content?

How are we going to ensure the content is being kept up to date? (The original 1 page PDF fliers created for OSGeo projects was created once, then became very out of date and collectively become unusable as a source of truth). OSGeo-Live has a process for updating documentation with each release, how can we lever that?

How can we minimise the duplication of content creation? Duplication leads to multiple points of truth getting out of date, and increases maintenance. Can we extend OSGeo-Live content creation process rather than creating another? Or alternatively have OSGeo-Live extend a newly created process?

Documentation processes which have potential to be aligned are:

Cheers, Cameron

On 22/7/17 10:44 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:

  1. Jeffrey has started some google forms to quicklcy stage content for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and ask the people here to play test (and we can share with discuss@osgeo.org at the end of the day).

The first form is now ready, but I am not quite sure how to provide a sharable URL:

Software Projects

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
[Marketing@lists.osgeo.org](mailto:Marketing@lists.osgeo.org)
[https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing](https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing)
-- 
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254

Live-demo mailing list
Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
http://live.osgeo.org
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc


Jody Garnett

-- 
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254

On 22 July 2017 at 17:06, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

Astred lead a team reviewing the printed material and would like to make
some changes before Boston.
- A few small changes to text (moving deegree up next to mapserver and
geoserver) changing the last category to "web mapping".
- remove the bullet point for local chapters (since we have a section for
that)
- remove the "software foundation section and change to a bullet point
(sigh, tough but correct choice)
- remove bullet point about foss4g and make a section for foss4g and events
(since that is about new people)
- and so on ...

My understanding is that the google doc will be edited; I only have access
to the PDF so I am not sure if we can fix before Boston.

yes, yesterday I started, I will do more later this evening/night

--
ciao
Luca

www.lucadelu.org

Cameron please check meeting history; your current suggestions are counter productive.

I understand you would like the osgeo live team to be respected (they are) and combine forces long term to reduce overall effort. This team of volunteer is focused on a very short three week deadline - and only has time for your help.

Quickly:

  • we are creating a template for information sheets (geoforall and osgeo only at this time). Project teams and others are welcome to use this template.
  • the forms are for the website/rebranding
  • long term maintenance is out of scope; project teams will have edit accesss to the website.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:20 AM Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Jody,

I think it might be helpful to discuss this in real time online. The osgeo-live weekly meeting will be in ~ 10 hours if you want to drop by:

irc://freenode.net#osgeolive

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=20&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=189&p3=224&p4=22&p5=240&p6=196&p7=215

If I understand correctly, there is currently budget and intent to create project write ups, without a strategy for long term maintenance. If that is the case, I suggest not creating such material at all. Rather just create a list of projects which references either the projects directly, or OSGeo-Live project overviews. I’m ok with Project Overviews being copied verbatim, but I’m not ok with creating slight variant on the Project Overviews.

For projects (such as some community projects, which haven’t created a project overview for OSGeo-Live,) I suggest using the OSGeo-Live format initially. Then on a future iteration of OSGeo-Live, adopt a new template (as proposed by the marketing committee).

On 24/7/17 9:40 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Cameron this is just a stop gap as we do not have login to the beta website. In addition to these forms the existing osgeo live overview are also a source of information (perhaps these forms could add a link to osgeo live overview if available.)

The key new information appears to be screen snaps and team photo and the level 1 level 2 category information (which would be interesting for osgeo live to adopt) and what service providers are considered contributors.

The osgeo live team has been working very hard on the latest release and has not had capacity to work on this initiative, by the same token the content being gathered was established in June (the scope of this project is fixed and we do not have volunteers to establish consider process - unless you are interested).

The best idea I have heard is about.yaml or similar being committee into each repo and used to generate one page flyers, overviews and these web pages. However given the deadlines (some of which have passed) this idea has not been pursued.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:31 AM Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

All,

There is good content in these forms. I recognise a lot of as being derived from prior initiatives. Great.

I suggest taking a step back, and asking:

What is OSGeo’s content creation and distribution pipeline?

What product(s) are being created with this content?

How are we going to ensure the content is being kept up to date? (The original 1 page PDF fliers created for OSGeo projects was created once, then became very out of date and collectively become unusable as a source of truth). OSGeo-Live has a process for updating documentation with each release, how can we lever that?

How can we minimise the duplication of content creation? Duplication leads to multiple points of truth getting out of date, and increases maintenance. Can we extend OSGeo-Live content creation process rather than creating another? Or alternatively have OSGeo-Live extend a newly created process?

Documentation processes which have potential to be aligned are:

Cheers, Cameron

On 22/7/17 10:44 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:

  1. Jeffrey has started some google forms to quicklcy stage content for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and ask the people here to play test (and we can share with discuss@osgeo.org at the end of the day).

The first form is now ready, but I am not quite sure how to provide a sharable URL:

Software Projects

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
[Marketing@lists.osgeo.org](mailto:Marketing@lists.osgeo.org)
[https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing](https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing)
-- 
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254

Live-demo mailing list
Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
http://live.osgeo.org
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc


Jody Garnett

-- 
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254


Jody Garnett

On 24 July 2017 at 22:44, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

I understand you would like the osgeo live team to be respected (they are)
and combine forces long term to reduce overall effort. This team of
volunteer is focused on a very short three week deadline - and only has
time for your help.

Quickly:
- we are creating a template for information sheets (geoforall and osgeo
only at this time). Project teams and others are welcome to use this
template.

I can do the information sheets for osgeo live, I already did one for GRASS

--
ciao
Luca

www.lucadelu.org

On 24 July 2017 at 23:26, Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge@gmail.com> wrote:

I can do the information sheets for osgeo live, I already did one for GRASS

https://github.com/lucadelu/osgeo/blob/grass/marketing/print/grass_a4.svg

--
ciao
Luca

www.lucadelu.org

Hi all,

On 24 July 2017 at 23:26, Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge@gmail.com> wrote:

I can do the information sheets for osgeo live, I already did one for GRASS

I committed first version of the osgeo live flyer [0].

If you like the idea I will continue to fill the missing software logos.

Other topics to discuss:
- OSGeo Live logo: I think should be better to change our logo to the
one proposed by the marketing/rebranding company [1]. It has all the
feature of the old one but following the new OSGeo "guidelines", maybe
a possible improvement could be to have OSGeo with a green and Live
with the other, like I did for the text GRASS GIS here [2]
- url: should be with https or without?

[0] https://github.com/lucadelu/osgeo/blob/osgeolive/marketing/print/osgeolive_a4.svg
[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/images/logos/OSGeo_live.png
[2] https://github.com/lucadelu/osgeo/blob/grass/marketing/print/grass_a4.svg

--
ciao
Luca

www.lucadelu.org

Hi Luca,

Flier is looking good. Thanks for putting it together.

Re OSGeo-Live logo: discussion so far has been that we have agreed to replace the old OSGeo logo with new OSGeo logo, but not to update the OSGeo-Live logo to proposed new OSGeo-Live logo. Reasons floated was that we think we could do better, but we haven't had time to dedicate to creating something better.

On 25/7/17 6:07 pm, Luca Delucchi wrote:

Hi all,

On 24 July 2017 at 23:26, Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge@gmail.com> wrote:

I can do the information sheets for osgeo live, I already did one for GRASS

I committed first version of the osgeo live flyer [0].

If you like the idea I will continue to fill the missing software logos.

Other topics to discuss:
- OSGeo Live logo: I think should be better to change our logo to the
one proposed by the marketing/rebranding company [1]. It has all the
feature of the old one but following the new OSGeo "guidelines", maybe
a possible improvement could be to have OSGeo with a green and Live
with the other, like I did for the text GRASS GIS here [2]
- url: should be with https or without?

[0] https://github.com/lucadelu/osgeo/blob/osgeolive/marketing/print/osgeolive_a4.svg
[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/images/logos/OSGeo_live.png
[2] https://github.com/lucadelu/osgeo/blob/grass/marketing/print/grass_a4.svg

--
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254

On 25 July 2017 at 13:36, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Luca,

Hi Cameron,

Flier is looking good. Thanks for putting it together.

ok, so If no other complains I will finish it adding the others logo

Re OSGeo-Live logo: discussion so far has been that we have agreed to
replace the old OSGeo logo with new OSGeo logo, but not to update the
OSGeo-Live logo to proposed new OSGeo-Live logo. Reasons floated was that we
think we could do better, but we haven't had time to dedicate to creating
something better.

ok, I'm going to prepare few ideas... when should be the deadline?

--
ciao
Luca

www.lucadelu.org

On 25 July 2017 at 14:13, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Luca,

Hi Cameron, all

There is no deadline for the next logo yet, although it would be good to
have in place before next release.
OSGeo-Live 12.0 will be next year, although we may decide to have an mid
cycle documentation update (with a focus on translations).

Hi Cameron, all

Here you are two possible version (I don't know if second one is
usable according the new branding guidelines)

Let me know (I prefer OSGeo_live1.svg version)

--
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254

--
ciao
Luca

www.lucadelu.org

OSGeo_live1.svg

OSGeo_live2.svg

Hello Luca,

thanks for your mail and the drafts.

With the OSGeo-Live team we had a long discussion about the new logo at an irc meeting. Everyone had a different preference about the logo.

The result was, that we will postpone the final decision to after the release of 11.0.

Let's see whether we can talk about it next monday at the irc meeting.

Astrid

Am 2017-07-25 16:38, schrieb Luca Delucchi:

On 25 July 2017 at 14:13, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Luca,

Hi Cameron, all

There is no deadline for the next logo yet, although it would be good to
have in place before next release.
OSGeo-Live 12.0 will be next year, although we may decide to have an mid
cycle documentation update (with a focus on translations).

Hi Cameron, all

Here you are two possible version (I don't know if second one is
usable according the new branding guidelines)

Let me know (I prefer OSGeo_live1.svg version)

--
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254

_______________________________________________
Live-demo mailing list
Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
http://live.osgeo.org
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc

--
Astrid Emde
Charter Member
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde

Small correction Luca - I created logo [1] the one provided by the designer is here:

Live

I really like the grass handout; it is hard for me to make sense of the osgeo live handout and all the logos (I will have to think about it).

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:49 AM Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge@gmail.com> wrote:

On 25 July 2017 at 13:36, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Luca,

Hi Cameron,

Flier is looking good. Thanks for putting it together.

ok, so If no other complains I will finish it adding the others logo

Re OSGeo-Live logo: discussion so far has been that we have agreed to
replace the old OSGeo logo with new OSGeo logo, but not to update the
OSGeo-Live logo to proposed new OSGeo-Live logo. Reasons floated was that we
think we could do better, but we haven’t had time to dedicate to creating
something better.

ok, I’m going to prepare few ideas… when should be the deadline?


ciao
Luca

www.lucadelu.org

On 25 July 2017 at 20:22, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

Small correction Luca - I created logo [1] the one provided by the
designer is here:

ok


Live
<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B08AjQ2hqLipanhGY3pFZ2Vkc2c&gt;

I really like the grass handout; it is hard for me to make sense of the
osgeo live handout and all the logos (I will have to think about it).

yes I'm also not really happy about the osgeo live flyer, to many logos.
Tomorrow I will create new a new version with names instead logos. But at
that point some more text or another image is needed... any idea?

--
ciao
Luca

www.lucadelu.org

Perhaps focus on what OSGeo Live does that is amazing, an example of what kind of detail is listed for each project, and an example showing the quickstart documentation and what they can expect. Or stories of osgeo live being used for workshops, or …

Make this more about what OSGeo Live offers (risk free evaluation of everything) and less about all the projects that are included since we do not have time to explain …

···

On 25 July 2017 at 14:53, Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge@gmail.com> wrote:


Jody Garnett

On 25 July 2017 at 20:22, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

Small correction Luca - I created logo [1] the one provided by the designer is here:

ok

Live

I really like the grass handout; it is hard for me to make sense of the osgeo live handout and all the logos (I will have to think about it).

yes I’m also not really happy about the osgeo live flyer, to many logos. Tomorrow I will create new a new version with names instead logos. But at that point some more text or another image is needed… any idea?

ciao
Luca

www.lucadelu.org