[Marketing] FOSS4G-Europe 2017: OSGeoLive on USB stick

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So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time…
It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.

We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI

The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was…
We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions… the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors…

The USB Sticks are not the same… We have not made many runs of them…

Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges…
One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format… but the Second is … that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack… The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public.
Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.

The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work… but it is hard
to get right… the DVD in later versions suffered from this also…

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.

-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large “printing run” in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m looping in the OSGeo-Live list.

In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.

Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.

Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.

Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.

I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing.
Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.

Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).

I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).

I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available.

Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.

The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.

I hope to hear back from you.

Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
Jody Garnett

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Hard to know; to act we would need a motion and we are still discussing options.

Guido does foss4g have any plans to issue USB sticks?

Cameron are you advising us to print USB sticks; or are you just describing their limitations so we are informed as to their appropriate use?

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:39 AM Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time…
It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.

We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI

The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was…
We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions… the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors…

The USB Sticks are not the same… We have not made many runs of them…

Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges…
One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format… but the Second is … that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack… The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public.
Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.

The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work… but it is hard
to get right… the DVD in later versions suffered from this also…

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.

-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large “printing run” in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m looping in the OSGeo-Live list.

In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.

Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.

Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.

Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.

I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing.
Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.

Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).

I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).

I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available.

Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.

The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.

I hope to hear back from you.

Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
Jody Garnett

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
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M 61 419 142 254

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Brian,

let me know when you are ready to make your order and if us adding to the order will make things cheaper.

-Guido

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 5:56 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

Hi Guido - we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on
Freenode OSGeoLive.
We will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding… the
details will be decided,
roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work

best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
–Brian M Hamlin

On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time…
It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.

We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will
be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI

The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was…
We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions… the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors…

The USB Sticks are not the same… We have not made many runs of them…

Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges…
One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format… but the Second is … that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack… The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public.
Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.

The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work… but it is hard
to get right… the DVD in later versions suffered from this also…

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.

-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large “printing run” in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m looping in the OSGeo-Live list.

In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.

Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.

Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.

Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.

I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing.
Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.

Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).

I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).

I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available.

Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.

The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.

I hope to hear back from you.

Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
Jody Garnett

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
Cameron Shorter
M 61 419 142 254

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Brian and Guido:

Chatting with Marc about marketing budget and trying to see what events we can ask the marketing committee to support.

When you say “we will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding” is that:
a) The OSGeo Live project (does it have budget for printing).
b) The marketing committee printing (should we balance need for new booth with USB printing)

Guido has expressed interest in having USB sticks at FOSS4G Boston. Gérald has expressed interest in having sticks at FOSS4G Europe. I am not sure if either of these two events has budget to work with or not?

···

On 6 June 2017 at 14:56, Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

Hi Guido - we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on Freenode OSGeoLive. We will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding… the details will be decided,
roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work

best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
–Brian M Hamlin

On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time… It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI

The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was… We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions… the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors…
The USB Sticks are not the same… We have not made many runs of them…
Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges… One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format… but the Second is … that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack… The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public. Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.
The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work… but it is hard
to get right… the DVD in later versions suffered from this also…

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.
-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large “printing run” in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.

Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.
Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.
I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).
I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available. –
Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.
The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.
I hope to hear back from you.
Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Marketing mailing list
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https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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5

Hey folks,

FOSS4G Boston plans on creating USB sticks for all the workshop attendees and potentially for all the conference attendees. We want create a OSGeo Live USB, but we also need to include academic papers from our conference. We plan on paying for these ourselves.

I have expressed interest in helping others by adding our order to others in order to bring the cost down, but at this point I think we are now needing something special and our order is going to be on our own. That said, if anyone can recommend a provider for USB sticks I am all ears and appreciate the help.

-Guido

···

–
Jody Garnett

On 6 June 2017 at 14:56, Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

Hi Guido - we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on Freenode OSGeoLive. We will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding… the details will be decided,
roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work

best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
–Brian M Hamlin

On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time… It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI

The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was… We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions… the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors…
The USB Sticks are not the same… We have not made many runs of them…
Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges… One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format… but the Second is … that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack… The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public. Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.
The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work… but it is hard
to get right… the DVD in later versions suffered from this also…

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.
-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large “printing run” in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.

Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.
Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.
I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).
I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available. –
Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.
The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.
I hope to hear back from you.
Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
Jody Garnett

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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M 61 419 142 254

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That is cool, I might recommend including osgeo live as a VM then, rather than as a bootable USB stick. It should also be cheaper to order with that setup.

What is the timeframe Guido (for example when are the academic papers available to you?)

···

On 20 June 2017 at 08:08, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

Hey folks,

FOSS4G Boston plans on creating USB sticks for all the workshop attendees and potentially for all the conference attendees. We want create a OSGeo Live USB, but we also need to include academic papers from our conference. We plan on paying for these ourselves.

I have expressed interest in helping others by adding our order to others in order to bring the cost down, but at this point I think we are now needing something special and our order is going to be on our own. That said, if anyone can recommend a provider for USB sticks I am all ears and appreciate the help.

-Guido

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:36 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

Brian and Guido:

Chatting with Marc about marketing budget and trying to see what events we can ask the marketing committee to support.

When you say “we will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding” is that:
a) The OSGeo Live project (does it have budget for printing).
b) The marketing committee printing (should we balance need for new booth with USB printing)

Guido has expressed interest in having USB sticks at FOSS4G Boston. Gérald has expressed interest in having sticks at FOSS4G Europe. I am not sure if either of these two events has budget to work with or not?

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On 6 June 2017 at 14:56, Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

Hi Guido - we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on Freenode OSGeoLive. We will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding… the details will be decided,
roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work

best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
–Brian M Hamlin

On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time… It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI

The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was… We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions… the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors…
The USB Sticks are not the same… We have not made many runs of them…
Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges… One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format… but the Second is … that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack… The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public. Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.
The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work… but it is hard
to get right… the DVD in later versions suffered from this also…

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.
-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large “printing run” in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.

Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.
Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.
I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).
I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available. –
Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.
The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.
I hope to hear back from you.
Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
Jody Garnett

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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M 61 419 142 254

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I have not time frame right now, should have more details next week.

-guido

···

–
Jody Garnett

On 20 June 2017 at 08:08, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

Hey folks,

FOSS4G Boston plans on creating USB sticks for all the workshop attendees and potentially for all the conference attendees. We want create a OSGeo Live USB, but we also need to include academic papers from our conference. We plan on paying for these ourselves.

I have expressed interest in helping others by adding our order to others in order to bring the cost down, but at this point I think we are now needing something special and our order is going to be on our own. That said, if anyone can recommend a provider for USB sticks I am all ears and appreciate the help.

-Guido

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:36 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

Brian and Guido:

Chatting with Marc about marketing budget and trying to see what events we can ask the marketing committee to support.

When you say “we will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding” is that:
a) The OSGeo Live project (does it have budget for printing).
b) The marketing committee printing (should we balance need for new booth with USB printing)

Guido has expressed interest in having USB sticks at FOSS4G Boston. Gérald has expressed interest in having sticks at FOSS4G Europe. I am not sure if either of these two events has budget to work with or not?

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On 6 June 2017 at 14:56, Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

Hi Guido - we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on Freenode OSGeoLive. We will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding… the details will be decided,
roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work

best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
–Brian M Hamlin

On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time… It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI

The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was… We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions… the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors…
The USB Sticks are not the same… We have not made many runs of them…
Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges… One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format… but the Second is … that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack… The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public. Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.
The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work… but it is hard
to get right… the DVD in later versions suffered from this also…

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.
-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large “printing run” in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.

Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.
Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.
I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).
I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available. –
Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.
The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.
I hope to hear back from you.
Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
Jody Garnett

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Marketing mailing list
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https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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Dear Jody,
we had only budget for producing the key but no budget for putting material on it, let say 2000€. Note that the USB sticks has been ordered already. So the budget has gone.

Hopefully, we have found some benevolent for partitioning and putting the material on the USB sticks.

The idea is to have both the conference material and the OSGeoLive environment provided to the attendees on USB sticks. I hope we can make it.

I hope to be clear and have answered your question

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 20 juin 2017 à 16:35, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Brian and Guido:

Chatting with Marc about marketing budget and trying to see what events we can ask the marketing committee to support.

When you say "we will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding" is that:
a) The OSGeo Live project (does it have budget for printing).
b) The marketing committee printing (should we balance need for new booth with USB printing)

Guido has expressed interest in having USB sticks at FOSS4G Boston. Gérald has expressed interest in having sticks at FOSS4G Europe. I am not sure if either of these two events has budget to work with or not?

--
Jody Garnett

On 6 June 2017 at 14:56, Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:
Hi Guido - we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on Freenode OSGeoLive. We will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding.. the details will be decided,
roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work

  best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
   --Brian M Hamlin

On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

  TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time.. It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI
-
  The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was.. We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions.. the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors..
  The USB Sticks are not the same.. We have not made many runs of them..
  Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges.. One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format.. but the Second is .. that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack.. The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public. Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.
  The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work.. but it is hard
to get right.. the DVD in later versions suffered from this also..

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.
-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large "printing run" in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.
--
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.
Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

--
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.
I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).
I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available. --
Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.
The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.
I hope to hear back from you.
Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

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Good news about the budget,

We should probably coordinate on the live.osgeo.org email list, perhaps virtualbox and a vm would be easier than a partition.

···

On 20 June 2017 at 08:18, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:

Dear Jody,
we had only budget for producing the key but no budget for putting material on it, let say 2000€. Note that the USB sticks has been ordered already. So the budget has gone.

Hopefully, we have found some benevolent for partitioning and putting the material on the USB sticks.

The idea is to have both the conference material and the OSGeoLive environment provided to the attendees on USB sticks. I hope we can make it.

I hope to be clear and have answered your question

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 20 juin 2017 à 16:35, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Brian and Guido:

Chatting with Marc about marketing budget and trying to see what events we can ask the marketing committee to support.

When you say “we will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding” is that:
a) The OSGeo Live project (does it have budget for printing).
b) The marketing committee printing (should we balance need for new booth with USB printing)

Guido has expressed interest in having USB sticks at FOSS4G Boston. Gérald has expressed interest in having sticks at FOSS4G Europe. I am not sure if either of these two events has budget to work with or not?

–
Jody Garnett

On 6 June 2017 at 14:56, Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:
Hi Guido - we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on Freenode OSGeoLive. We will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding… the details will be decided,
roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work

best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
–Brian M Hamlin

On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time… It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI

The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was… We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions… the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors…
The USB Sticks are not the same… We have not made many runs of them…
Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges… One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format… but the Second is … that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack… The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public. Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.
The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work… but it is hard
to get right… the DVD in later versions suffered from this also…

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.
-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large “printing run” in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.

Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.
Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.
I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).
I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available. –
Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.
The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.
I hope to hear back from you.
Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
Jody Garnett

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M 61 419 142 254

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Re questions about schedule, the OSGeo-Live schedule is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kO6zzmLFfprZGgp5x7Sjwi-EVN6NTGDR4KXvFVtNpR0/edit?hl=en_GB&hl=en_GB#gid=0

You will notice that we try to list upcoming FOSS4G events which will be using OSGeo-Live, along with a point of contact.

Please do add in any events we are missing.

Cheers, Cameron

···

On 21/6/17 1:12 am, Guido Stein wrote:

I have not time frame right now, should have more details next week.

-guido

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:11 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

That is cool, I might recommend including osgeo live as a VM then, rather than as a bootable USB stick. It should also be cheaper to order with that setup.

What is the timeframe Guido (for example when are the academic papers available to you?)

–
Jody Garnett

On 20 June 2017 at 08:08, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

Hey folks,

FOSS4G Boston plans on creating USB sticks for all the workshop attendees and potentially for all the conference attendees. We want create a OSGeo Live USB, but we also need to include academic papers from our conference. We plan on paying for these ourselves.

I have expressed interest in helping others by adding our order to others in order to bring the cost down, but at this point I think we are now needing something special and our order is going to be on our own. That said, if anyone can recommend a provider for USB sticks I am all ears and appreciate the help.

-Guido

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:36 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

Brian and Guido:

Chatting with Marc about marketing budget and trying to see what events we can ask the marketing committee to support.

When you say “we will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding” is that:
a) The OSGeo Live project (does it have budget for printing).
b) The marketing committee printing (should we balance need for new booth with USB printing)

Guido has expressed interest in having USB sticks at FOSS4G Boston. Gérald has expressed interest in having sticks at FOSS4G Europe. I am not sure if either of these two events has budget to work with or not?

–
Jody Garnett

On 6 June 2017 at 14:56, Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

Hi Guido - we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on Freenode OSGeoLive. We will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding… the details will be decided,
roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work

best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
–Brian M Hamlin

On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:

So - USB Sticks

TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time… It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI

The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was… We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions… the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors…
The USB Sticks are not the same… We have not made many runs of them…
Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges… One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format… but the Second is … that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack… The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public. Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.
The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work… but it is hard
to get right… the DVD in later versions suffered from this also…

On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein@appgeo.com> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.
-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

If we did a large “printing run” in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.

Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.
Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

–
Jody Garnett

On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.
I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).
I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available. –
Jody

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.
The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.
I hope to hear back from you.
Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

–
Jody Garnett

Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Marketing mailing list
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https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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M 61 419 142 254

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Jody,

Prior to the marketing committee reboot, the challenges the marketing committee (and OSGeo-Live committee) faced was finding volunteer(s) to administer requests for budget. While there are plenty of people quite passionate about asking for money, we found there are few volunteers prepared to arbitrate how money is spent and then administer the money.

Cheers, Cameron

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On 21/6/17 3:39 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Shifting this part of the thread to live-demo mailing list. Personally I like the idea of OSGeo Live getting a budget, and having one less thing for the FOSS4G LOC to do each year.

There is nothing stopping this committee from requesting a budget at any point. The 2017 budget is only a guide, work with your committee chair and the board if there is a budget request.

The volunteers on this project are what is important, if a budget can help, let the board do what little we can to support.

Importantly just having a budget is not sufficient, a volunteer would be needed to handle “printing” requests and organize distribution. I guess it does not matter if that volunteer operates as part of the marketing committee or osgeo live project (there are advantages to both).

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Jody Garnett

On 20 June 2017 at 08:30, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com> wrote:

This is a re-occuring discussion for every FOSS4G LOC :slight_smile:
The OSGeo-Live project does not have a budget.

Cheers,
Angelos

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