[Marketing] [OSGeo-Discuss] Recruiting OSGeo Santa Clause(s)

Nicolas, Marc,
You both have proposed some excellent ideas on what we should do within the marketing committee, and I think you are also offering to make it happen? Thank you.

I suggest put your ideas into the existing marketing wiki, as linked from here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee

I suggest not being scared to archive old content. Maybe initially move under an “Old Material” heading, with strikeout font, or move to an “archive” wiki page, and eventually remove all together. Some of this old content I’ve created, and I’ll be delighted to see it ruthlessly refreshed and improved in the ways you’ve suggested.

I expect that once you put draft ideas together with a commitment to move it forward, you will attract positive feedback, and likely attract more volunteers.

I don’t think it matters much whether you work under the banner of “marketing committee”, “web committee” or “conference committee”. The key element is that something gets done. We are volunteers, and we are effective as a “do-ocracy”.

So please feel empowered, and start putting your ideas into the wiki. Ask for feedback. It is always easier to discuss an idea after someone has writing a first draft. I’d love to see what you suggest.

Warm regards, Cameron

···

On 18/03/2016 10:11 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Thanks for the clarity Marc, there is a very different focus between the two activities.

My two-cents is what we need here - and what Cameron asked for at the start of the thread - is volunteers to put time on the table. OSGeo is a volunteer organization, please in pitch in to make it great.


Jody Garnett

On 17 March 2016 at 09:37, Marc VLOEMANS <marcvloemans1@gmail.com> wrote:

All

 
If this year's marketing communication and budget is reflecting last 
year's, then that's of course a discretionary Board decision.
To combine WebCom and MarkCom can in that case be a practical solution, for now...
 
However, to combine them more permanently would downgrade the 'Art of Marketing' 
to just 'Promotion'. And would not emply the total toolbox at our disposal to grow usage of 
FOSS for GIS. Marketing can be so much more...
 
In order to really benefit from all marketing has to offer, we need to have established at a minimum level:
- what are our offerings/products/services and their added end value?
- what is (are) our target segment audience(s), direct and indirect for the above?
- how do we create interest for it/these (the promotional aspect) per target group?
- how/via which appropriate channels do we distribute that offering-product-service (incl OSGeo-Live)
- which community members/orgs/externals/partners/suppliers are to be involved
- what are available timelines, resources and deliverables?
And these questions-answers are to be addressed interdependently in a single coherent approach.
 
If such approach is considered too far fetched...then just have a single Com 
for the future, focusing on promotional aspects and media; 'PromCom'.
 
Not my preferred choice, though ;-)
 
 
Marc Vloemans

Kind regards,

Marc Vloemans

Mobile +31(0)651 844262
LinkedIn: http://nl.linkedin.com/in/marcvloemans
Twitter: http://twitter.com/marcvloemans
http://www.slideshare.net/marcvloemans

2016-03-17 12:45 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <gert-jan@osgeo.nl>:

Hi all,

The website is a tool, just as OSGeo-Live is a tool.
The 2 committees (WebCom and MarkCom) are closely related.

In my opinion MarkCom set the goals and probably defines what tools are needed to reach these goals.
WebCom makes sure one of these tools is up and running.
That requires different skill, which makes it a valid choice to keep the 2 committees separated.

Regards,

Gert-Jan

Venkatesh Raghavan schreef op 16-03-2016 7:53:

On 3/16/2016 3:00 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:

I think that nicolas ideas are fully right. Website is one of the
best
marketing tool.
Maybe making one committee from two dormient make one awake… could
we
consider to join webcom and marketing in a new one?

I also think that merging web and marketing committees would make a
lot
of sense.

Best

Venka

Maxi
Il 15/Mar/2016 21:39, “Jody Garnett” <jody.garnett@gmail.com> ha
scritto:

Thanks Cameron & Nick, could you start outlining a “reboot” on the
wiki
and grab an agenda item for next months board meeting? We also have
a
hangout/workparty for board members (and officers?) in case you want
some
companionship shaping the wiki page.


Jody Garnett

On 15 March 2016 at 04:38, nicolas bozon <nicolas.bozon@gmail.com>
wrote:

Dear Cameron, Marketing Committee, OSGeo Directors,

As a member of the so called “dormant” Marketing Committee, i would
be
glad to help revitalising it.

In fact it hasn’t been a satisfactory nor confortable situation to
be a
member of such a forgotten commitee since 2012.
So i’d like to volunteer for championing such committee reboot, and
propose to help define strategic changes, recruit new members and
tackle
some of the administrative tasks.
I can also chair the Committee if needed, and if this is
appropriated for
gathering the troops. Cameron, I am not Santa (but ‘Klaus’ only:)),
but I’d
be very glad to learn from your experience and we may try to enhance
things
together.

However,i think the commitee’s mission and role should be revised,
probably indepth modified, and aligned with the new OSGeo plans.
My main point is that the mandate of the OSGeo Marketing Committee
must
go way beyond the funding of OSGeo events and the managment of
consumables
or swag, as it mostly did (or not) until now.
OSGeo Live is one of our best marketing tool to showcase some of the
Foundation’s software projects, but not to promote and market the
Foundation itself IMHO.
OSGeo Live must of course be kept inside a new marketing plan, but
the
latter shouldn’t be built on DVDs and events only.

According to me, improving OSGeo Marketing globally is one of the
most
important and urgent action to be taken according to the new
strategic plan
defined by the Board.
It must help OSGeo to be presented as more matured, more inclusive,
more
professional, and fully considered by the broader geospatial
community.

I believe such reborn Marketing Committee should work closely along
with
the Board of Directors, the Website Committee and a few motivated
contributors, in order to:

  • Define a consitent OSGeo identity from existing material
    (including
    revised graphic guidelines, new shapes and colors aligned with
    identified
    needs and recent web trends, new scalable vector graphics, web fonts
    …)
  • Refine the OSGeo web identity (including main site redesign
    through the
    developement a new drupal theme, responsive webdesign, efficient and
    reusable visuals…)
  • Enhance OSGeo web content and presence (including blog, journal,
    newsletter and bring more activity on various social networks)
  • Market the OSGeo brand online and at all kind of events (including
    consumables management, viral marketing, direct marketing…)

Such actions could be prioritized and voted by the Committee’s
members,
coordinated by the commitee’s chair according to the Committee
members, and
aligned with the allocated budget and volunteered time.

I sincerly hope we can reboot and improve our Marketing Committee
together, in order to grow and market our Foundation better.
Let us talk, decide and act now ! Enough rest for MarkCom’ !

Best regards,

Nick

On 15/03/2016 10:22 pm, Marc Vloemans wrote:

Before handing out money to undoubtedly worthy causes…a marketing (which is more than just the promotional ‘P’ ) plan would be the usual starting point. Agreed upon by the Board and with input from all.

So. Why is what is given to whom, when and to what amount? Effectively; what precedes a marketing committee.

Unless, a plan/framework is in place, Santa Claus/Easter Bunny/Tooth Fairy/etc. can expect to receive a lot of flak. Groups and initiatives have no clue as to what (governable) rules to comply with. Besides all sorts of unwanted chaos and misunderstandings can be expected.

By the way, does one also not start to code without some sort of initial and agreed plan?

Any volunteers besides me to have a stab at it?

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans

2016-03-15 8:42 GMT+01:00 Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shorter@gmail.com>:

OSGeo needs help distributing money to worthy causes. We need an
OSGeo
Santa Clause.

The current state of play is:

  • The OSGeo Board has allocated budget for an OSGeo marketing
    committee
    to distribute.

  • But, our OSGeo Marketing committee has imploded. (I was the last
    chair, a few years back). It seems no one is interested in the
    administrative tasks of giving away money, doing the administrative
    work of
    writing cheques, being accountable, deciding which requests get
    funded
    verses which don’t based on a set of guidelines.

My take is that handing out money to worthy marketing causes can’t
be
too important, as it is not bugging anyone enough to want to step up
and
volunteer to fix it. But I’d be delighted to proven wrong, and see
some
people volunteer to step up to revitalise the OSGeo marketing
committee. If
you are possibly interested, please speak up. I’d be happy to help
you get
started.

A first task would be to consider this request from Bob.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 9/03/2016 6:29 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Sounds like an amazing event, marketing committee should have a
budget
to work against shortly (it is an agenda topic for this week and you
can
see the budget

<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors#Operational_Budget_for_2016>

[1]

on the wiki ).

Cameron is involved with both marketing committee and OSGeo live and
should be able to assist.


Jody Garnett

On 8 March 2016 at 08:59, Bob Basques <bbasques@sharedgeo.org>
wrote:

All,

I haven’t heard anything back on the following request from anyone
(other than Jody commenting about where this should be sent . . .).

So trying again . . .


All,

First, let me know if this is the wrong list to request from.

We’re holding a regional Geo conference and would like to include
a
OSGeo-Live thumb drive in each attendees goody bag. So, please
consider
this an official request for funding of OSGeo Live Thumb Drives for
the
event.

This is a multi- discipline, multi-state event for all things Geo.
60
confirmed presenters. This will be a highly knowledgable audience
and
because of the varied subject matter it will be an excellent venue
to get
the word out to new folks about OSGeo and it’s mission, via the
OSGeo Live
project. More info about the event can be seen here:

www.umgeocon.org [2]

We’ve planned for 350 attendees. We can make our own thumb
drives,
and/or pay to have them made ourselves. We’ve handed these out in
the past
and will also include a getting started cheat sheet for each user to
get
them going with the least amount of effort.

I haven’t checked lately for the going rate on these. Local
suppliers
are advertising ~$5 each for an 8GB USB3.0 blank drive.

Request is for $2000 ($1750 for Drives, $250 for copying the OSGeo
Live
suite to each).

Related, my submission of the OSGeo Live presentation has been
accepted
at the event, and there will also be a (free) GeoMOOSE workshop.

bobb


Bob Basques
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612.598.9210


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Thanks Cameron,
I also think that Nik and Marc can start to work on the MarkCom and are legitimated to do so.

This doesn’t need stop the discussion which is aiming at providing positive aspects: thinking about needs and gaps to be filled and considered is a worth process.
(I used to think and discuss with my colleagues before start coding, usually this save me time and produce better results :-P)

Maxi

···

2016-03-18 12:27 GMT+01:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com>:

Nicolas, Marc,
You both have proposed some excellent ideas on what we should do within the marketing committee, and I think you are also offering to make it happen? Thank you.

I suggest put your ideas into the existing marketing wiki, as linked from here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee

I suggest not being scared to archive old content. Maybe initially move under an “Old Material” heading, with strikeout font, or move to an “archive” wiki page, and eventually remove all together. Some of this old content I’ve created, and I’ll be delighted to see it ruthlessly refreshed and improved in the ways you’ve suggested.

I expect that once you put draft ideas together with a commitment to move it forward, you will attract positive feedback, and likely attract more volunteers.

I don’t think it matters much whether you work under the banner of “marketing committee”, “web committee” or “conference committee”. The key element is that something gets done. We are volunteers, and we are effective as a “do-ocracy”.

So please feel empowered, and start putting your ideas into the wiki. Ask for feedback. It is always easier to discuss an idea after someone has writing a first draft. I’d love to see what you suggest.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 18/03/2016 10:11 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Thanks for the clarity Marc, there is a very different focus between the two activities.

My two-cents is what we need here - and what Cameron asked for at the start of the thread - is volunteers to put time on the table. OSGeo is a volunteer organization, please in pitch in to make it great.

On 15/03/2016 10:22 pm, Marc Vloemans wrote:

Before handing out money to undoubtedly worthy causes…a marketing (which is more than just the promotional ‘P’ ) plan would be the usual starting point. Agreed upon by the Board and with input from all.

So. Why is what is given to whom, when and to what amount? Effectively; what precedes a marketing committee.

Unless, a plan/framework is in place, Santa Claus/Easter Bunny/Tooth Fairy/etc. can expect to receive a lot of flak. Groups and initiatives have no clue as to what (governable) rules to comply with. Besides all sorts of unwanted chaos and misunderstandings can be expected.

By the way, does one also not start to code without some sort of initial and agreed plan?

Any volunteers besides me to have a stab at it?

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans

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On 17 March 2016 at 09:37, Marc VLOEMANS <marcvloemans1@gmail.com> wrote:

All

 
If this year's marketing communication and budget is reflecting last 
year's, then that's of course a discretionary Board decision.
To combine WebCom and MarkCom can in that case be a practical solution, for now...
 
However, to combine them more permanently would downgrade the 'Art of Marketing' 
to just 'Promotion'. And would not emply the total toolbox at our disposal to grow usage of 
FOSS for GIS. Marketing can be so much more...
 
In order to really benefit from all marketing has to offer, we need to have established at a minimum level:
- what are our offerings/products/services and their added end value?
- what is (are) our target segment audience(s), direct and indirect for the above?
- how do we create interest for it/these (the promotional aspect) per target group?
- how/via which appropriate channels do we distribute that offering-product-service (incl OSGeo-Live)
- which community members/orgs/externals/partners/suppliers are to be involved
- what are available timelines, resources and deliverables?
And these questions-answers are to be addressed interdependently in a single coherent approach.
 
If such approach is considered too far fetched...then just have a single Com 
for the future, focusing on promotional aspects and media; 'PromCom'.
 
Not my preferred choice, though ;-)
 
 
Marc Vloemans

Kind regards,

Marc Vloemans

Mobile +31(0)651 844262
LinkedIn: http://nl.linkedin.com/in/marcvloemans
Twitter: http://twitter.com/marcvloemans
http://www.slideshare.net/marcvloemans

2016-03-17 12:45 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <gert-jan@osgeo.nl>:

Hi all,

The website is a tool, just as OSGeo-Live is a tool.
The 2 committees (WebCom and MarkCom) are closely related.

In my opinion MarkCom set the goals and probably defines what tools are needed to reach these goals.
WebCom makes sure one of these tools is up and running.
That requires different skill, which makes it a valid choice to keep the 2 committees separated.

Regards,

Gert-Jan

Venkatesh Raghavan schreef op 16-03-2016 7:53:

On 3/16/2016 3:00 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:

I think that nicolas ideas are fully right. Website is one of the
best
marketing tool.
Maybe making one committee from two dormient make one awake… could
we
consider to join webcom and marketing in a new one?

I also think that merging web and marketing committees would make a
lot
of sense.

Best

Venka

Maxi
Il 15/Mar/2016 21:39, “Jody Garnett” <jody.garnett@gmail.com> ha
scritto:

Thanks Cameron & Nick, could you start outlining a “reboot” on the
wiki
and grab an agenda item for next months board meeting? We also have
a
hangout/workparty for board members (and officers?) in case you want
some
companionship shaping the wiki page.


Jody Garnett

On 15 March 2016 at 04:38, nicolas bozon <nicolas.bozon@gmail.com>
wrote:

Dear Cameron, Marketing Committee, OSGeo Directors,

As a member of the so called “dormant” Marketing Committee, i would
be
glad to help revitalising it.

In fact it hasn’t been a satisfactory nor confortable situation to
be a
member of such a forgotten commitee since 2012.
So i’d like to volunteer for championing such committee reboot, and
propose to help define strategic changes, recruit new members and
tackle
some of the administrative tasks.
I can also chair the Committee if needed, and if this is
appropriated for
gathering the troops. Cameron, I am not Santa (but ‘Klaus’ only:)),
but I’d
be very glad to learn from your experience and we may try to enhance
things
together.

However,i think the commitee’s mission and role should be revised,
probably indepth modified, and aligned with the new OSGeo plans.
My main point is that the mandate of the OSGeo Marketing Committee
must
go way beyond the funding of OSGeo events and the managment of
consumables
or swag, as it mostly did (or not) until now.
OSGeo Live is one of our best marketing tool to showcase some of the
Foundation’s software projects, but not to promote and market the
Foundation itself IMHO.
OSGeo Live must of course be kept inside a new marketing plan, but
the
latter shouldn’t be built on DVDs and events only.

According to me, improving OSGeo Marketing globally is one of the
most
important and urgent action to be taken according to the new
strategic plan
defined by the Board.
It must help OSGeo to be presented as more matured, more inclusive,
more
professional, and fully considered by the broader geospatial
community.

I believe such reborn Marketing Committee should work closely along
with
the Board of Directors, the Website Committee and a few motivated
contributors, in order to:

  • Define a consitent OSGeo identity from existing material
    (including
    revised graphic guidelines, new shapes and colors aligned with
    identified
    needs and recent web trends, new scalable vector graphics, web fonts
    …)
  • Refine the OSGeo web identity (including main site redesign
    through the
    developement a new drupal theme, responsive webdesign, efficient and
    reusable visuals…)
  • Enhance OSGeo web content and presence (including blog, journal,
    newsletter and bring more activity on various social networks)
  • Market the OSGeo brand online and at all kind of events (including
    consumables management, viral marketing, direct marketing…)

Such actions could be prioritized and voted by the Committee’s
members,
coordinated by the commitee’s chair according to the Committee
members, and
aligned with the allocated budget and volunteered time.

I sincerly hope we can reboot and improve our Marketing Committee
together, in order to grow and market our Foundation better.
Let us talk, decide and act now ! Enough rest for MarkCom’ !

Best regards,

Nick


Discuss mailing list
Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

2016-03-15 8:42 GMT+01:00 Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shorter@gmail.com>:

OSGeo needs help distributing money to worthy causes. We need an
OSGeo
Santa Clause.

The current state of play is:

  • The OSGeo Board has allocated budget for an OSGeo marketing
    committee
    to distribute.

  • But, our OSGeo Marketing committee has imploded. (I was the last
    chair, a few years back). It seems no one is interested in the
    administrative tasks of giving away money, doing the administrative
    work of
    writing cheques, being accountable, deciding which requests get
    funded
    verses which don’t based on a set of guidelines.

My take is that handing out money to worthy marketing causes can’t
be
too important, as it is not bugging anyone enough to want to step up
and
volunteer to fix it. But I’d be delighted to proven wrong, and see
some
people volunteer to step up to revitalise the OSGeo marketing
committee. If
you are possibly interested, please speak up. I’d be happy to help
you get
started.

A first task would be to consider this request from Bob.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 9/03/2016 6:29 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Sounds like an amazing event, marketing committee should have a
budget
to work against shortly (it is an agenda topic for this week and you
can
see the budget

<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors#Operational_Budget_for_2016>

[1]

on the wiki ).

Cameron is involved with both marketing committee and OSGeo live and
should be able to assist.


Jody Garnett

On 8 March 2016 at 08:59, Bob Basques <bbasques@sharedgeo.org>
wrote:

All,

I haven’t heard anything back on the following request from anyone
(other than Jody commenting about where this should be sent . . .).

So trying again . . .


All,

First, let me know if this is the wrong list to request from.

We’re holding a regional Geo conference and would like to include
a
OSGeo-Live thumb drive in each attendees goody bag. So, please
consider
this an official request for funding of OSGeo Live Thumb Drives for
the
event.

This is a multi- discipline, multi-state event for all things Geo.
60
confirmed presenters. This will be a highly knowledgable audience
and
because of the varied subject matter it will be an excellent venue
to get
the word out to new folks about OSGeo and it’s mission, via the
OSGeo Live
project. More info about the event can be seen here:

www.umgeocon.org [2]

We’ve planned for 350 attendees. We can make our own thumb
drives,
and/or pay to have them made ourselves. We’ve handed these out in
the past
and will also include a getting started cheat sheet for each user to
get
them going with the least amount of effort.

I haven’t checked lately for the going rate on these. Local
suppliers
are advertising ~$5 each for an 8GB USB3.0 blank drive.

Request is for $2000 ($1750 for Drives, $250 for copying the OSGeo
Live
suite to each).

Related, my submission of the OSGeo Live presentation has been
accepted
at the event, and there will also be a (free) GeoMOOSE workshop.

bobb


Bob Basques
<bbasques@sharedgeo.org>bbasques@sharedgeo.org
612.598.9210


Board mailing list
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Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
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26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com [3], F +61 2 9009 5099


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Massimiliano Cannata

Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica

Responsabile settore Geomatica

Istituto scienze della Terra

Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design

Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana

Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio

Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14

Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09

massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch

www.supsi.ch/ist

Hi Maxi,
Yes, I assume that Nik, Marc and others who draft the marketing wiki will consider feedback from the community, and the first draft will help us in the community refine our ideas about what we think is important.
Warm regards, Cameron

···

On 18/03/2016 10:35 pm, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:

Thanks Cameron,
I also think that Nik and Marc can start to work on the MarkCom and are legitimated to do so.

This doesn’t need stop the discussion which is aiming at providing positive aspects: thinking about needs and gaps to be filled and considered is a worth process.
(I used to think and discuss with my colleagues before start coding, usually this save me time and produce better results :-P)

Maxi

2016-03-18 12:27 GMT+01:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com>:

Nicolas, Marc,
You both have proposed some excellent ideas on what we should do within the marketing committee, and I think you are also offering to make it happen? Thank you.

I suggest put your ideas into the existing marketing wiki, as linked from here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee

I suggest not being scared to archive old content. Maybe initially move under an “Old Material” heading, with strikeout font, or move to an “archive” wiki page, and eventually remove all together. Some of this old content I’ve created, and I’ll be delighted to see it ruthlessly refreshed and improved in the ways you’ve suggested.

I expect that once you put draft ideas together with a commitment to move it forward, you will attract positive feedback, and likely attract more volunteers.

I don’t think it matters much whether you work under the banner of “marketing committee”, “web committee” or “conference committee”. The key element is that something gets done. We are volunteers, and we are effective as a “do-ocracy”.

So please feel empowered, and start putting your ideas into the wiki. Ask for feedback. It is always easier to discuss an idea after someone has writing a first draft. I’d love to see what you suggest.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 18/03/2016 10:11 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Thanks for the clarity Marc, there is a very different focus between the two activities.

My two-cents is what we need here - and what Cameron asked for at the start of the thread - is volunteers to put time on the table. OSGeo is a volunteer organization, please in pitch in to make it great.


Jody Garnett

On 17 March 2016 at 09:37, Marc VLOEMANS <marcvloemans1@gmail.com> wrote:

All

 
If this year's marketing communication and budget is reflecting last 
year's, then that's of course a discretionary Board decision.
To combine WebCom and MarkCom can in that case be a practical solution, for now...
 
However, to combine them more permanently would downgrade the 'Art of Marketing' 
to just 'Promotion'. And would not emply the total toolbox at our disposal to grow usage of 
FOSS for GIS. Marketing can be so much more...
 
In order to really benefit from all marketing has to offer, we need to have established at a minimum level:
- what are our offerings/products/services and their added end value?
- what is (are) our target segment audience(s), direct and indirect for the above?
- how do we create interest for it/these (the promotional aspect) per target group?
- how/via which appropriate channels do we distribute that offering-product-service (incl OSGeo-Live)
- which community members/orgs/externals/partners/suppliers are to be involved
- what are available timelines, resources and deliverables?
And these questions-answers are to be addressed interdependently in a single coherent approach.
 
If such approach is considered too far fetched...then just have a single Com 
for the future, focusing on promotional aspects and media; 'PromCom'.
 
Not my preferred choice, though ;-)
 
 
Marc Vloemans

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2016-03-17 12:45 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <gert-jan@osgeo.nl>:

Hi all,

The website is a tool, just as OSGeo-Live is a tool.
The 2 committees (WebCom and MarkCom) are closely related.

In my opinion MarkCom set the goals and probably defines what tools are needed to reach these goals.
WebCom makes sure one of these tools is up and running.
That requires different skill, which makes it a valid choice to keep the 2 committees separated.

Regards,

Gert-Jan

Venkatesh Raghavan schreef op 16-03-2016 7:53:

On 3/16/2016 3:00 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:

I think that nicolas ideas are fully right. Website is one of the
best
marketing tool.
Maybe making one committee from two dormient make one awake… could
we
consider to join webcom and marketing in a new one?

I also think that merging web and marketing committees would make a
lot
of sense.

Best

Venka

Maxi
Il 15/Mar/2016 21:39, “Jody Garnett” <jody.garnett@gmail.com> ha
scritto:

Thanks Cameron & Nick, could you start outlining a “reboot” on the
wiki
and grab an agenda item for next months board meeting? We also have
a
hangout/workparty for board members (and officers?) in case you want
some
companionship shaping the wiki page.


Jody Garnett

On 15 March 2016 at 04:38, nicolas bozon <nicolas.bozon@gmail.com>
wrote:

Dear Cameron, Marketing Committee, OSGeo Directors,

As a member of the so called “dormant” Marketing Committee, i would
be
glad to help revitalising it.

In fact it hasn’t been a satisfactory nor confortable situation to
be a
member of such a forgotten commitee since 2012.
So i’d like to volunteer for championing such committee reboot, and
propose to help define strategic changes, recruit new members and
tackle
some of the administrative tasks.
I can also chair the Committee if needed, and if this is
appropriated for
gathering the troops. Cameron, I am not Santa (but ‘Klaus’ only:)),
but I’d
be very glad to learn from your experience and we may try to enhance
things
together.

However,i think the commitee’s mission and role should be revised,
probably indepth modified, and aligned with the new OSGeo plans.
My main point is that the mandate of the OSGeo Marketing Committee
must
go way beyond the funding of OSGeo events and the managment of
consumables
or swag, as it mostly did (or not) until now.
OSGeo Live is one of our best marketing tool to showcase some of the
Foundation’s software projects, but not to promote and market the
Foundation itself IMHO.
OSGeo Live must of course be kept inside a new marketing plan, but
the
latter shouldn’t be built on DVDs and events only.

According to me, improving OSGeo Marketing globally is one of the
most
important and urgent action to be taken according to the new
strategic plan
defined by the Board.
It must help OSGeo to be presented as more matured, more inclusive,
more
professional, and fully considered by the broader geospatial
community.

I believe such reborn Marketing Committee should work closely along
with
the Board of Directors, the Website Committee and a few motivated
contributors, in order to:

  • Define a consitent OSGeo identity from existing material
    (including
    revised graphic guidelines, new shapes and colors aligned with
    identified
    needs and recent web trends, new scalable vector graphics, web fonts
    …)
  • Refine the OSGeo web identity (including main site redesign
    through the
    developement a new drupal theme, responsive webdesign, efficient and
    reusable visuals…)
  • Enhance OSGeo web content and presence (including blog, journal,
    newsletter and bring more activity on various social networks)
  • Market the OSGeo brand online and at all kind of events (including
    consumables management, viral marketing, direct marketing…)

Such actions could be prioritized and voted by the Committee’s
members,
coordinated by the commitee’s chair according to the Committee
members, and
aligned with the allocated budget and volunteered time.

I sincerly hope we can reboot and improve our Marketing Committee
together, in order to grow and market our Foundation better.
Let us talk, decide and act now ! Enough rest for MarkCom’ !

Best regards,

Nick

On 15/03/2016 10:22 pm, Marc Vloemans wrote:

Before handing out money to undoubtedly worthy causes…a marketing (which is more than just the promotional ‘P’ ) plan would be the usual starting point. Agreed upon by the Board and with input from all.

So. Why is what is given to whom, when and to what amount? Effectively; what precedes a marketing committee.

Unless, a plan/framework is in place, Santa Claus/Easter Bunny/Tooth Fairy/etc. can expect to receive a lot of flak. Groups and initiatives have no clue as to what (governable) rules to comply with. Besides all sorts of unwanted chaos and misunderstandings can be expected.

By the way, does one also not start to code without some sort of initial and agreed plan?

Any volunteers besides me to have a stab at it?

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans

2016-03-15 8:42 GMT+01:00 Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shorter@gmail.com>:

OSGeo needs help distributing money to worthy causes. We need an
OSGeo
Santa Clause.

The current state of play is:

  • The OSGeo Board has allocated budget for an OSGeo marketing
    committee
    to distribute.

  • But, our OSGeo Marketing committee has imploded. (I was the last
    chair, a few years back). It seems no one is interested in the
    administrative tasks of giving away money, doing the administrative
    work of
    writing cheques, being accountable, deciding which requests get
    funded
    verses which don’t based on a set of guidelines.

My take is that handing out money to worthy marketing causes can’t
be
too important, as it is not bugging anyone enough to want to step up
and
volunteer to fix it. But I’d be delighted to proven wrong, and see
some
people volunteer to step up to revitalise the OSGeo marketing
committee. If
you are possibly interested, please speak up. I’d be happy to help
you get
started.

A first task would be to consider this request from Bob.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 9/03/2016 6:29 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Sounds like an amazing event, marketing committee should have a
budget
to work against shortly (it is an agenda topic for this week and you
can
see the budget

<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors#Operational_Budget_for_2016>

[1]

on the wiki ).

Cameron is involved with both marketing committee and OSGeo live and
should be able to assist.


Jody Garnett

On 8 March 2016 at 08:59, Bob Basques <bbasques@sharedgeo.org>
wrote:

All,

I haven’t heard anything back on the following request from anyone
(other than Jody commenting about where this should be sent . . .).

So trying again . . .


All,

First, let me know if this is the wrong list to request from.

We’re holding a regional Geo conference and would like to include
a
OSGeo-Live thumb drive in each attendees goody bag. So, please
consider
this an official request for funding of OSGeo Live Thumb Drives for
the
event.

This is a multi- discipline, multi-state event for all things Geo.
60
confirmed presenters. This will be a highly knowledgable audience
and
because of the varied subject matter it will be an excellent venue
to get
the word out to new folks about OSGeo and it’s mission, via the
OSGeo Live
project. More info about the event can be seen here:

www.umgeocon.org [2]

We’ve planned for 350 attendees. We can make our own thumb
drives,
and/or pay to have them made ourselves. We’ve handed these out in
the past
and will also include a getting started cheat sheet for each user to
get
them going with the least amount of effort.

I haven’t checked lately for the going rate on these. Local
suppliers
are advertising ~$5 each for an 8GB USB3.0 blank drive.

Request is for $2000 ($1750 for Drives, $250 for copying the OSGeo
Live
suite to each).

Related, my submission of the OSGeo Live presentation has been
accepted
at the event, and there will also be a (free) GeoMOOSE workshop.

bobb


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