[Marketing] random catchup on sponsorship

Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500 USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects, initiatives) also meets this need.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source landing page (example, example, example, example).

···


Jody Garnett

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging
on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500
USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we're not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business
to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The
cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won't ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source
landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don't like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors' money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don't refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli

--
Jody Garnett

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

+1 on not accepting unrelated sponsors. The current Bronze sponsors listed seem to be advertising totally different stuff. No good marketing for OSGeo.
Cheers,
Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.
_________________________
Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 23 jun. 2016 om 21:11 heeft Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging
on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500
USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we're not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business
to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The
cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won't ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source
landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don't like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors' money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don't refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli

--
Jody Garnett

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

I think it is too late for this year Jeroen, do you think the suggestion on “linking to open source participation page” would be effective policy change for next year?

···

On 24 June 2016 at 02:00, Jeroen Ticheler <jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net> wrote:

+1 on not accepting unrelated sponsors. The current Bronze sponsors listed seem to be advertising totally different stuff. No good marketing for OSGeo.
Cheers,
Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.


Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 23 jun. 2016 om 21:11 heeft Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging
on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500
USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we’re not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business
to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The
cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won’t ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source
landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don’t like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors’ money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don’t refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli


Jody Garnett


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Jody Garnett

We could also choose to just list silver and above sponsors in rotation on our main page?

···

On 24 June 2016 at 02:00, Jeroen Ticheler <jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net> wrote:

+1 on not accepting unrelated sponsors. The current Bronze sponsors listed seem to be advertising totally different stuff. No good marketing for OSGeo.
Cheers,
Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.


Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 23 jun. 2016 om 21:11 heeft Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging
on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500
USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we’re not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business
to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The
cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won’t ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source
landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don’t like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors’ money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don’t refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli


Jody Garnett


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Jody Garnett

I like Eli’s suggestion to refund the donations and remove the unrelated sponsors.

···

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

We could also choose to just list silver and above sponsors in rotation on our main page?


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Jody Garnett

On 24 June 2016 at 02:00, Jeroen Ticheler <jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net> wrote:

+1 on not accepting unrelated sponsors. The current Bronze sponsors listed seem to be advertising totally different stuff. No good marketing for OSGeo.
Cheers,
Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.


Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 23 jun. 2016 om 21:11 heeft Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging
on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500
USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we’re not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business
to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The
cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won’t ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source
landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don’t like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors’ money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don’t refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli


Jody Garnett


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

David Percy (“Percy”)
-Geospatial Data Manager
-Web Map Wrangler
-GIS Instructor
Portland State University
-gisgeek.pdx.edu
-geology.pdx.edu

Open Source and/or geospatial.

We can't rule out that some companies/orgs are users of OSGeo projects
internally. Any business that maps their customers potentially is a sponsor.

So it seems some sort of questionnaire (1-4 question), asking about the
above uses could help us weed out sponsors that aren't relevant. Who is
going to be tasked with reviewing sponsors?

Example questions:
1. Why do you want to sponsor OSGeo?
2. What open source geospatial projects do you use?
3. What open source geospatial projects do you contribute to?
etc...

Example scenario, what if some large company sponsors us, but then makes
a public statement that goes against our Code of Conduct with
racist/sexists/etc... remarks. Do we drop them as a sponsor? As per some
voting mechanism?

+1 on this rule needs to not be retro-active but apply to future new and
renewals.

+1 on preference/suggestion for link to company being their page about
their open source and/or geospatial usage.

Thanks,
Alex

On 06/24/2016 10:25 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:

I think it is too late for this year Jeroen, do you think the suggestion on
"linking to open source participation page" would be effective policy
change for next year?

--
Jody Garnett

On 24 June 2016 at 02:00, Jeroen Ticheler <jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net>
wrote:

+1 on not accepting unrelated sponsors. The current Bronze sponsors listed
seem to be advertising totally different stuff. No good marketing for OSGeo.
Cheers,
Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on
GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for
details.
_________________________
Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 23 jun. 2016 om 21:11 heeft Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> het

volgende geschreven:

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>

wrote:

Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the

messaging

on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors

(yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the

$500

USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we're not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small

business

to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point.

The

cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won't ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open

source

landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don't like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors' money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don't refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli

--
Jody Garnett

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Re Featured Sponsor:

I think it a good idea for encouraging more sponsors. I’m open to showing all sponsors on rotation on the web page, weighted by how much the sponsor pays.

A Platinum sponsor pays 40 times more than a Bronze sponsor, and so should get at least 40 times more imprints. (Probably 80 times more imprints as a sweetener).

With regards to who we select as sponsors. My first reaction is to suggest that any company prepared to pay OSGeo money should be allowed to sponsor. (That process should be reasonably self selecting). However, Eli makes good points about caring about a Sponor’s business.

I’d be inclined to work on a principle of ensuring sponsors “Do no evil (to OSGeo’s reputation)”. If a software hosting company which doesn’t seem to be obviously using much OSGeo Software, but still wants to sponsor us, that should be ok.

So I’d suggest Eli’s selection criteria for OSGeo sponsors could be couched as “Expectations of OSGeo sponsors”:

We are aware that OSGeo sponsorship effects the reputation of both the sponsor and OSGeo, usually in a positive way. That is why you are considering sponsorship. In order to ensure the relationship is a positive one, we have the following expectations of our sponsors: …

* Add in “do no evil” type points

···

On 25/06/2016 3:30 AM, David Percy wrote:

I like Eli’s suggestion to refund the donations and remove the unrelated sponsors.

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

We could also choose to just list silver and above sponsors in rotation on our main page?


Jody Garnett

On 24 June 2016 at 02:00, Jeroen Ticheler <jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net> wrote:

+1 on not accepting unrelated sponsors. The current Bronze sponsors listed seem to be advertising totally different stuff. No good marketing for OSGeo.
Cheers,
Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.


Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 23 jun. 2016 om 21:11 heeft Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging
on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500
USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we’re not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business
to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The
cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won’t ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source
landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don’t like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors’ money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don’t refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli


Jody Garnett


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

David Percy (“Percy”)
-Geospatial Data Manager
-Web Map Wrangler
-GIS Instructor
Portland State University
-gisgeek.pdx.edu
-geology.pdx.edu

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P +61 2 9009 5000,  W [www.lisasoft.com](http://www.lisasoft.com),  F +61 2 9009 5099

Maybe we can have a requirement for sponsor levels that the maximum number of employees is x (one in case of bronze). This would prevent a large company to advertise at virtually no cost. I know quite some organizations that do this (GSDI and OGC for instance force a minimum membership fee depending on size and economic region).
Cheers,

···

Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.
_________________________Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 24 jun. 2016 om 19:25 heeft Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

I think it is too late for this year Jeroen, do you think the suggestion on “linking to open source participation page” would be effective policy change for next year?


Jody Garnett

On 24 June 2016 at 02:00, Jeroen Ticheler <jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net> wrote:

+1 on not accepting unrelated sponsors. The current Bronze sponsors listed seem to be advertising totally different stuff. No good marketing for OSGeo.
Cheers,
Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.


Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 23 jun. 2016 om 21:11 heeft Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging
on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500
USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we’re not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business
to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The
cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won’t ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source
landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don’t like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors’ money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don’t refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli


Jody Garnett


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


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http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Jeroen, Jody, others,

Keep in mind that in several companies only a part is involved in geospatial (for instance: my employer Ordina has 3000 employees, of which 35 are in the Geospatial units (plus another 50 or so in VR/Augmented Reality, Business Intelligence and other directly geospatial departments.

Regards,

Gert-Jan

Van: Marketing [mailto:marketing-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Jeroen Ticheler
Verzonden: zaterdag 25 juni 2016 10:25
Aan: Jody Garnett
CC: OSGeo Marketing
Onderwerp: Re: [Marketing] random catchup on sponsorship

Maybe we can have a requirement for sponsor levels that the maximum number of employees is x (one in case of bronze). This would prevent a large company to advertise at virtually no cost. I know quite some organizations that do this (GSDI and OGC for instance force a minimum membership fee depending on size and economic region).

Cheers,

Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.


Jeroen Ticheler

GeoCat bv

Veenderweg 13

6721 WD Bennekom

Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572

http://geocat.net

Op 24 jun. 2016 om 19:25 heeft Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

I think it is too late for this year Jeroen, do you think the suggestion on “linking to open source participation page” would be effective policy change for next year?

Jody Garnett

On 24 June 2016 at 02:00, Jeroen Ticheler <jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net> wrote:

+1 on not accepting unrelated sponsors. The current Bronze sponsors listed seem to be advertising totally different stuff. No good marketing for OSGeo.
Cheers,
Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.


Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 23 jun. 2016 om 21:11 heeft Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging
on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500
USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we’re not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business
to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The
cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won’t ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source
landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don’t like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors’ money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don’t refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli


Jody Garnett


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Sure Gert Jan, I’m not talking millions here :wink: And 35 people is a significant number of people, justifying a significant minimum required sponsorship level. With significant I mean something way higher than 500$ per year.
Cheers,

···

Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.
_________________________Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 25 jun. 2016 om 12:21 heeft Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl <gert-jan@osgeo.nl> het volgende geschreven:

Jeroen, Jody, others,

Keep in mind that in several companies only a part is involved in geospatial (for instance: my employer Ordina has 3000 employees, of which 35 are in the Geospatial units (plus another 50 or so in VR/Augmented Reality, Business Intelligence and other directly geospatial departments.

Regards,

Gert-Jan

Van: Marketing [mailto:marketing-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Jeroen Ticheler
Verzonden: zaterdag 25 juni 2016 10:25
Aan: Jody Garnett
CC: OSGeo Marketing
Onderwerp: Re: [Marketing] random catchup on sponsorship

Maybe we can have a requirement for sponsor levels that the maximum number of employees is x (one in case of bronze). This would prevent a large company to advertise at virtually no cost. I know quite some organizations that do this (GSDI and OGC for instance force a minimum membership fee depending on size and economic region).

Cheers,

Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.


Jeroen Ticheler

GeoCat bv

Veenderweg 13

6721 WD Bennekom

Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572

http://geocat.net

Op 24 jun. 2016 om 19:25 heeft Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

I think it is too late for this year Jeroen, do you think the suggestion on “linking to open source participation page” would be effective policy change for next year?

Jody Garnett

On 24 June 2016 at 02:00, Jeroen Ticheler <jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net> wrote:

+1 on not accepting unrelated sponsors. The current Bronze sponsors listed seem to be advertising totally different stuff. No good marketing for OSGeo.
Cheers,
Jeroen

GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details.


Jeroen Ticheler
GeoCat bv
Veenderweg 13
6721 WD Bennekom
Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572
http://geocat.net

Op 23 jun. 2016 om 21:11 heeft Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Jody and all,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging
on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

Great, good work. If we have stable revenue from something other than
FOSS4G, that makes it easier to take different approaches with the
conference. And additional diversified foundation revenue is always
good.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500
USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we
should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Yes, we should care. Our focus is open source geospatial software;
we’re not an advertising platform. The reason that we are getting
unrelated sponsors is that we are selling a really good page rank at a
very low price. I think that other OSGeo project have had to decline
sponsorships from adult or other non-related websites.

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business
to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The
cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects,
initiatives) also meets this need.

If we raised our prices so that bronze sponsorship was no longer an
incredibly good deal for the page rank, then this would end. (i.e. We
won’t ever have an over abundance of unrelated platinum sponsors.)
However, the goal is to raise sponsorship and a reasonable entry point
for small businesses which often make substantial contributions to
OSGeo projects.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source
landing page (example, example, example, example).

I think that we should have a requirement that sponsors be at least
related to the geospatial industry. This requirement can easily be
applied with just a bit of thought. If denied sponsors don’t like
their denial, they can appeal to the Board and make their case that
they are geospatially related. I would be in favor of returning those
unrelated sponsors’ money and removing them. At least no more
unrelated sponsors and no option for renewal for the existing
unrelated sponsors if we don’t refund and remove.

My thoughts, Eli


Jody Garnett


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Here is initial reply from Ian on the website committee:

Also - not sure when Astun was added, but looks like they are missing from
both the translated versions of the sponsor page and from the logo rotation.

Bronze sponsors could be excluded, or they could appear less frequently if
someone can decide on a suitable ratio for the various sponsorship levels.

It looks like we have some flexibility to work with.

···

On 23 June 2016 at 11:39, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:

Question for the marketing committee, since it is a bit about the messaging on our website.

With a revised sponsorship approach we are collecting more sponsors (yay!)

http://www.osgeo.org/content/sponsorship/sponsors.html

One surprise this year is collecting bronze sponsors (this was at the $500 USD level) that are not directly from our industry. Is this something we should care about from a marketing/branding perspective?

Background: The original intension here was to have a way for small business to be represented in our organization by offering a lower price point. The cumulative sponsorship (combining support of OSGeo events, projects, initiatives) also meets this need.

One idea (for next year) is to ask sponsors for a link to their open source landing page (example, example, example, example).


Jody Garnett


Jody Garnett