Hi Michael,
I would say 50% addresses OS GIS general issues, 30% relates to Dutch/European subjects (I do not see that much difference per country, although I am more familiar with the lacal situation), 20% company specific e.o.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans
Algemeen nr 030 214 2081
So would the first 50% be of general interest to our wider audience, if translated?
-mpg
From: Marc Vloemans [mailto:marcvloemans@b3partners.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:21 PM
To: marketing@lists.osgeo.org
Cc: Michael P. Gerlek
Subject: RE: 2 cents for translation and localization
Hi Michael,
I would say 50% addresses OS GIS general issues, 30% relates to Dutch/European subjects (I do not see that much difference per country, although I am more familiar with the lacal situation), 20% company specific e.o.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans
Algemeen nr 030 214 2081
Hi Marc,
Does this booklet happen to be available online? I'm very eager to read
it!
Cheers, Roald
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 06:50 +1030, Marc Vloemans wrote:
Hi Michael,
I would say 50% addresses OS GIS general issues, 30% relates to
Dutch/European subjects (I do not see that much difference per
country, although I am more familiar with the lacal situation), 20%
company specific e.o.Met vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans
Algemeen nr 030 214 2081
--
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Hi all,
The booklet happens to be written in…Dutch. I could translate it into an English concept-version. That would take a couple of months. This concept would have to be checked on grammar, wording etc by a native speaker. Then we could make it available.
Or has somebody other ideas/suggestions?
Cheers, Marc
Marc Vloemans wrote:
Hi all,
The booklet happens to be written in...Dutch. I could translate it into an English concept-version. That would take a couple of months. This concept would have to be checked on grammar, wording etc by a native speaker. Then we could make it available.
Or has somebody other ideas/suggestions?
yours is a great idea to me.
if you have the time to translate it to english then we can start derive it to spanish.
thanks
lorenzo
Cheers, Marc
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I suppose I could volunteer to do the copy editing work.
-mpg
From: marketing-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:marketing-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Marc Vloemans
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:36 PM
To: Roald de Wit
Cc: marketing@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [Marketing] Re: 2 cents for translation and localization
Hi all,
The booklet happens to be written in…Dutch. I could translate it into an English concept-version. That would take a couple of months. This concept would have to be checked on grammar, wording etc by a native speaker. Then we could make it available.
Or has somebody other ideas/suggestions?
Cheers, Marc
Ok guys,
As I am not a developer/code jockey but rather a MBA graduate and strategist, my contribution to the community will consist of the words to “sell” the code 
Please, be patient. Initial translation will take roughly 20 nights (writing it in Dutch amounted to around 60 nights) over the next two months.
If afterwards Michael and Roald could do the “mopping up”, and Lorenzo could take care of the Spanish version, I believe we have a powerful medium for future marketing purposes which will cover a substantial part of the world (by the way, anyone happens to speak Chinese on this mailinglist?).
Here goes nothing 
Marc
Hi Marc,
Yeah, I'm happy to do some 'mopping up'. Of course you could delegate
work to people too if you don't want to do all the work yourself.
There are more dutchies active within OSGeo than just the three of us
(maybe not all of them subscribed to this list).
So, here is my suggestion:
* Make the dutch version (preferable the latest version) available
for download
* Setup a page (somewhere on the OSGeo wiki?) and divide the
booklet into bite size sections in a table format: 1 row per
section, 2 columns: 1 for the section name, the other for the
name of the person that translates the section
* Every person that will work on a section will write down her/his
name
* Send an email to discuss@osgeo asking for volunteers. Hey, isn't
there a Dutch list as well?
* After the booklet is translated into English and proof read,
others can translate from there, unless of course there are
volunteers that speak both Dutch and say, Spanish of course.
They could start straight away!
What do you think of this?
Cheers, Roald
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 04:18 +1030, Marc Vloemans wrote:
Ok guys,
As I am not a developer/code jockey but rather a MBA graduate and
strategist, my contribution to the community will consist of the words
to "sell" the code
Please, be patient. Initial translation will take roughly 20 nights
(writing it in Dutch amounted to around 60 nights) over the next two
months.
If afterwards Michael and Roald could do the "mopping up", and Lorenzo
could take care of the Spanish version, I believe we have a powerful
medium for future marketing purposes which will cover a substantial
part of the world (by the way, anyone happens to speak Chinese on this
mailinglist?).Here goes nothing
Marc
--
Roald de Wit
Software Engineer
roald.dewit@lisasoft.com
Commercial Support for Open Source GIS Software
http://lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts/
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Hi Roald,
Great, a Dutchman ‘down under’!
Thanks, I will take your suggestion fully on board, as it should well work in the osgeo-wiki! It certainly will take a load off my back, involve the wider community and help the marketing effort.
I go and check the wiki-policies in osgeo and set up the ‘localisation’ matrix.
Will keep you posted.
Cheers, Marc
From: Roald de Wit [mailto:roald.dewit@lisasoft.com]
To: Marc Vloemans [mailto:marcvloemans@b3partners.nl]
Cc: Michael P. Gerlek [mailto:mpg@lizardtech.com], Lorenzo Becchi [mailto:lorenzo@ominiverdi.com], marketing@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org]
Sent: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:30:24 +0100
Subject: Re: Zero cents for translation and localization!Hi Marc,
Yeah, I’m happy to do some ‘mopping up’. Of course you could delegate
work to people too if you don’t want to do all the work yourself.
There are more dutchies active within OSGeo than just the three of us
(maybe not all of them subscribed to this list).So, here is my suggestion:
- Make the dutch version (preferable the latest version) available
for download- Setup a page (somewhere on the OSGeo wiki?) and divide the
booklet into bite size sections in a table format: 1 row per
section, 2 columns: 1 for the section name, the other for the
name of the person that translates the section- Every person that will work on a section will write down her/his
name- Send an email to discuss@osgeo asking for volunteers. Hey, isn’t
there a Dutch list as well?- After the booklet is translated into English and proof read,
others can translate from there, unless of course there are
volunteers that speak both Dutch and say, Spanish of course.
They could start straight away!What do you think of this?
Cheers, Roald
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 04:18 +1030, Marc Vloemans wrote:
Ok guys,
As I am not a developer/code jockey but rather a MBA graduate and
strategist, my contribution to the community will consist of the words
to “sell” the code
Please, be patient. Initial translation will take roughly 20 nights
(writing it in Dutch amounted to around 60 nights) over the next two
months.
If afterwards Michael and Roald could do the “mopping up”, and Lorenzo
could take care of the Spanish version, I believe we have a powerful
medium for future marketing purposes which will cover a substantial
part of the world (by the way, anyone happens to speak Chinese on this
mailinglist?).Here goes nothing
Marc
–
Roald de Wit
Software Engineer
roald.dewit@lisasoft.comCommercial Support for Open Source GIS Software
http://lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts/The contents of this email are confidential and may be subject to legal or professional privilege and copyright. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses or other defects. If you have received this communication in error, you may not copy or distribute any part of it or otherwise disclose its contents to anyone. Please advise the sender of your incorrect receipt of this correspondence.
Hi Mark,
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 23:16 +1030, Marc Vloemans wrote:
Thanks, I will take your suggestion fully on board, as it should well
work in the osgeo-wiki! It certainly will take a load off my back,
involve the wider community and help the marketing effort.
I go and check the wiki-policies in osgeo and set up the
'localisation' matrix.
Will keep you posted.
Is there any progress with the 'localisation' matrix? Let me know if you
need any help.
Cheers, Roald
Cheers, Marc
______________________________________________________________
From: Roald de Wit [mailto:roald.dewit@lisasoft.com]
To: Marc Vloemans [mailto:marcvloemans@b3partners.nl]
Cc: Michael P. Gerlek [mailto:mpg@lizardtech.com], Lorenzo
Becchi [mailto:lorenzo@ominiverdi.com],
marketing@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org]
Sent: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:30:24 +0100
Subject: Re: Zero cents for translation and localization!Hi Marc,
Yeah, I'm happy to do some 'mopping up'. Of course you could
delegate
work to people too if you don't want to do all the work
yourself.
There are more dutchies active within OSGeo than just the
three of us
(maybe not all of them subscribed to this list).So, here is my suggestion:
* Make the dutch version (preferable the latest version)
available
for download
* Setup a page (somewhere on the OSGeo wiki?) and divide the
booklet into bite size sections in a table format: 1 row per
section, 2 columns: 1 for the section name, the other for the
name of the person that translates the section
* Every person that will work on a section will write down
her/his
name
* Send an email to discuss@osgeo asking for volunteers. Hey,
isn't
there a Dutch list as well?
* After the booklet is translated into English and proof read,
others can translate from there, unless of course there are
volunteers that speak both Dutch and say, Spanish of course.
They could start straight away!What do you think of this?
Cheers, Roald
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 04:18 +1030, Marc Vloemans wrote:
> Ok guys,
>
> As I am not a developer/code jockey but rather a MBA
graduate and
> strategist, my contribution to the community will consist of
the words
> to "sell" the code
> Please, be patient. Initial translation will take roughly 20
nights
> (writing it in Dutch amounted to around 60 nights) over the
next two
> months.
> If afterwards Michael and Roald could do the "mopping up",
and Lorenzo
> could take care of the Spanish version, I believe we have a
powerful
> medium for future marketing purposes which will cover a
substantial
> part of the world (by the way, anyone happens to speak
Chinese on this
> mailinglist?).
>
> Here goes nothing
> Marc
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Software Engineer
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Hi Roald,
Thanks for the reminder. I am somewhat drowning in work at the moment (book presentations, tenders and regular office stuff), with next week some ski ‘hols’. I intend to pick it up in the week of 23 feb. Will keep you (all) posted of course.
Question:
My initial attempts with the OSGEO Wiki is that it does not facilitatie tables (per chapter 3 columns and umpteen rows: Dutch > English > Spanish translation space). Perhaps somebody on this list is able to do this? Or is there a work around?
Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans
Algemeen nr 00 31 (0)30 214 2081
From: Roald de Wit [mailto:roald.dewit@lisasoft.com]
To: Marc Vloemans [mailto:marcvloemans@b3partners.nl]
Cc: marketing@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org]
Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:29:04 +0100
Subject: Re: Zero cents for translation and localization!Hi Mark,
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 23:16 +1030, Marc Vloemans wrote:
Thanks, I will take your suggestion fully on board, as it should well
work in the osgeo-wiki! It certainly will take a load off my back,
involve the wider community and help the marketing effort.
I go and check the wiki-policies in osgeo and set up the
‘localisation’ matrix.
Will keep you posted.Is there any progress with the ‘localisation’ matrix? Let me know if you
need any help.Cheers, Roald
Cheers, Marc
From: Roald de Wit [mailto:roald.dewit@lisasoft.com]
To: Marc Vloemans [mailto:marcvloemans@b3partners.nl]
Cc: Michael P. Gerlek [mailto:mpg@lizardtech.com], Lorenzo
Becchi [mailto:lorenzo@ominiverdi.com],
marketing@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org]
Sent: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:30:24 +0100
Subject: Re: Zero cents for translation and localization!Hi Marc,
Yeah, I’m happy to do some ‘mopping up’. Of course you could
delegate
work to people too if you don’t want to do all the work
yourself.
There are more dutchies active within OSGeo than just the
three of us
(maybe not all of them subscribed to this list).So, here is my suggestion:
- Make the dutch version (preferable the latest version)
available
for download- Setup a page (somewhere on the OSGeo wiki?) and divide the
booklet into bite size sections in a table format: 1 row per
section, 2 columns: 1 for the section name, the other for the
name of the person that translates the section- Every person that will work on a section will write down
her/his
name- Send an email to discuss@osgeo asking for volunteers. Hey,
isn’t
there a Dutch list as well?- After the booklet is translated into English and proof read,
others can translate from there, unless of course there are
volunteers that speak both Dutch and say, Spanish of course.
They could start straight away!What do you think of this?
Cheers, Roald
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 04:18 +1030, Marc Vloemans wrote:
Ok guys,
As I am not a developer/code jockey but rather a MBA
graduate and
strategist, my contribution to the community will consist of
the words
to “sell” the code
Please, be patient. Initial translation will take roughly 20
nights
(writing it in Dutch amounted to around 60 nights) over the
next two
months.
If afterwards Michael and Roald could do the “mopping up”,
and Lorenzo
could take care of the Spanish version, I believe we have a
powerful
medium for future marketing purposes which will cover a
substantial
part of the world (by the way, anyone happens to speak
Chinese on this
mailinglist?).Here goes nothing
Marc
–
Roald de Wit
Software Engineer
roald.dewit@lisasoft.comCommercial Support for Open Source GIS Software
http://lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts/The contents of this email are confidential and may be subject
to legal or professional privilege and copyright. No
representation is made that this email is free of viruses or
other defects. If you have received this communication in
error, you may not copy or distribute any part of it or
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Marc,
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Marc Vloemans
<marcvloemans@b3partners.nl> wrote:
Question:
My initial attempts with the OSGEO Wiki is that it does not facilitatie
tables (per chapter 3 columns and umpteen rows: Dutch > English > Spanish
translation space). Perhaps somebody on this list is able to do this? Or is
there a work around?
Yes. There are converter tools:
* List:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Editing_tools#Wikisyntax_conversion_utilities
* Copy & Paste Excel/OpenOffice-to-Wiki Converter
http://people.fas.harvard.edu/~sdouglas/table.cgi
This should help to generate the Syntax.
Kind regards,
Markus