[Marketing] Re: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue 14

Pedro,

The shirt look Awesome!!! Love it!!!

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Today’s Topics:

  1. RE: A question to the marketing committee (Jason Birch)
  2. web site refactoring [was: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue
    10] (Lorenzo Becchi)
  3. Re: Re: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10 (Frank Warmerdam)

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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:40:49 -0800
From: “Jason Birch” <Jason.Birch@nanaimo.ca>
Subject: RE: [Marketing] A question to the marketing committee
To: <marketing@lists.osgeo.org>
Cc: Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses <vehrka@gmail.com>
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That is a really cool shirt design, one that I’m sure lots of geo-geeks like me would want to buy :slight_smile:

Jason


From: Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses
Subject: [Marketing] A question to the marketing committee

[1] http://geomaticblog.net/files/images/osgeo-es/osgeo-es_ES.jpg


Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:38:44 +0100
From: Lorenzo Becchi <lorenzo@ominiverdi.com>
Subject: [Marketing] web site refactoring [was: Marketing Digest, Vol
16, Issue 10]
Cc: marketing@lists.osgeo.org, Web committee discussions
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Cameron Shorter wrote:

Daniele,
No need to be sorry. It is excellent to see people taking initiative.
+1

@Daniele: if you can please use a better subject than “Marketing
Digest”, we would appreciate.

Re who is in responsible for what:

The beauty of OSGeo is that anyone can join any committee, so it is
incredibly easy for us to restructure ourselves.

The marketing committee have collectively noted that Websites are
important for marketing, and that $$ should be allocated to the
website from the marketing budget. Only $20K (plus I think webcom had
$10K already?) and that will not go far.

I think that Webcom should continue to be responsible for the website,
and also responsible for spending the $20K budget. Any marketing
people who want to have a say can join the webcom email list. (I
suspect most of us are on the list already).

I think this is a great initiative but remembers me some projects for
the development I’ve seen here and there travelling around.
I guess that if you want to give $20K to webcom you should better ask
them if they are interested in and what is their feeling about
priorities (participative approach [1]).
Chris has sent a good list of objections and I have some more that I’ve
posted [2] before.

regards
lorenzo

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participation_(decision_making)
[2] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/webcom/2008-December/001937.html

daniele.ocu ocu wrote:

Dear all,

I am veryveryvery sorry If I seemed too hasty in the words I chose in
the prior email. Of course that if any actual action in the website
is taken, it will be of common desire both of the Marketing
committee, of the Webcom and of other who are interested.

This is just the beginning, where gathering information is a
crucial part.

Getting your ideas on what is good about the website and what
might be object to change is an extremely important part of planning
what can be done.

This is JUST AN EFFORT to get the OSGeo Community to start
discussing and thinking
of ways to gather more users, contributers,
volunteers and sponsors to this vibrant community.

This is STILL Just a discussion, a place to set ideas.

Daniele.

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Christopher Schmidt
<crschmidt@metacarta.com mailto:[crschmidt@metacarta.com](mailto:crschmidt@metacarta.com)> wrote:

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:43:32PM +0900, daniele.ocu ocu wrote:

Dear Marketing committee,

We have started working on the website redesign.

Daniele,

I’m concerned that this is being done without interaction with
WebCom –
or if this interaction is happening, I’m not aware of it.

Currently, I’ve expressed some concerns about the current state
of the
OSGeo website, but I do not feel that there is sufficient
agreement in
what the website should be that we can discuss Content Design,
Layout
Design, etc.

I have some strong ideas about what the OSGeo website should be –
or at
least, questions about what it should be that would need answering
before any redesign was attempted.

Additionally, I think that any website redesign effort can only be
undertaken if a sufficiently motivated set of developers in the
website
technology are involved. I’m not convinced that that is currently
the
case; I don’t know how much experience you have with the current
website
technology, but I didn’t have the impression that you were
comfortable
implementing possible changes in this regard.

At the moment, I would like to say that although Marketing can
feel free
to create an advisory suggestion to WebCom about suggestions for the
website, I do ont feel that WebCom has suficient resources to
implement
any possible suggestions, and I would consider the feedback from
Marketing – except insofar as it relates directly towards marketing
tasks like management of branding – to be advisory only.

Please take this into account in any decisions/investment placed
in this
direction.

SOmetime in the near future, I will do my best to outline my
hopes for
the OSGeo website to the members of the community; I expect the end
result will be a discussion (either on mailing lists or in a more
interactive forum) about what the OSGeo website should be. When I do
this, I will involve Marketing in that discussion as much as
possible.

I appreciate the effort you want to go through, but I just feel
at the
moment that it might be a wasted effort due to lack of general
agreement
on the tasks needed for the website; if this is the result of some
larger discussion I’m missing, I apologize, and I look forward to
resolving my confusion. I don’t want to stop the Marketing committee
from participating in website advisory positions, but I also don’t
want
to see anyone put forth effort which may be wasted.

Best Regards,

Christopher Schmidt
MetaCarta


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:49:11 -0500
From: Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Re: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10
To: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com>
Cc: marketing@lists.osgeo.org, “daniele.ocu ocu”
<daniele.ocu@gmail.com>
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Cameron Shorter wrote:

The marketing committee have collectively noted that Websites are
important for marketing, and that $$ should be allocated to the website
from the marketing budget. Only $20K (plus I think webcom had $10K
already?) and that will not go far.

Cameron,

I’d note that there is no $10K budget for webcom. There was an item in
the 2008 budget but that lapsed at the end of year unused.

Best regards,

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