RE: [SAC] Vhost standards, etc...

Should probably put the question to the MapGuide PSC :slight_smile: My preference
would be to split the content between the osgeo.org/project area and the
projectname.osgeo.org, interlinking between the sites as necessary.

Same goes for other projects with content in their host area.

Many of the projects have basic content at projectname.osgeo.org, but
really these sites should either commit entirely to our infrastructure
or have the host redirected to their domain.

Others have limited content that is only available on our site (like
GeoData) but I feel that this content would really work better under the
osgeo.org/(projects|committees)/projectname/ structure, so that they
have the benefit of the CMS without giving us the overhead of
maintaining multiple CMS instances.

We need to leverage the CMS and the functionality of Trac as much as
possible, so that we don't have to manually maintain HTML files, but
setting up an individual Drupal instance for each site is not
supportable in the long run. I also don't think it's wise from a
security/stability standpoint to allow direct filesystem or shell level
access to the site servers for project maintainers. Changes should go
through SAC (once SAC is up to speed on the servers).

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Mitchell [mailto:tylermitchell@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:22
To: sac@sac.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [SAC] Vhost standards, etc...

On 15-Dec-06, at 11:12 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

In any case, let's talk about this more in January, once we're on the
new infrastructure and are thinking more about ongoing
information/infrastructure management than just moving what we've got.

Sounds good. The other reason I bring it up now is that we have this
current issue of some subdomains having web content - and I'm wondering
how we will address it within the drupal environment. For example where
will the mapguide.osgeo.org content live within osgeo.org drupal site?

Tyler

As usual Jason, this makes more than a little sense.

I prefer to not have multiple drupal instances running, the more
instances the more headaches in the long run.

i think only sysadmins should have shell access to the servers, as the
servers won't have sandboxes and the like for dev purposes. Any direct
access or changes to the system should be done by a sysadmin.

shawn

Jason Birch wrote:

Should probably put the question to the MapGuide PSC :slight_smile: My preference
would be to split the content between the osgeo.org/project area and the
projectname.osgeo.org, interlinking between the sites as necessary.

Same goes for other projects with content in their host area.

Many of the projects have basic content at projectname.osgeo.org, but
really these sites should either commit entirely to our infrastructure
or have the host redirected to their domain.

Others have limited content that is only available on our site (like
GeoData) but I feel that this content would really work better under the
osgeo.org/(projects|committees)/projectname/ structure, so that they
have the benefit of the CMS without giving us the overhead of
maintaining multiple CMS instances.

We need to leverage the CMS and the functionality of Trac as much as
possible, so that we don't have to manually maintain HTML files, but
setting up an individual Drupal instance for each site is not
supportable in the long run. I also don't think it's wise from a
security/stability standpoint to allow direct filesystem or shell level
access to the site servers for project maintainers. Changes should go
through SAC (once SAC is up to speed on the servers).

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Mitchell [mailto:tylermitchell@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:22
To: sac@sac.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [SAC] Vhost standards, etc...

On 15-Dec-06, at 11:12 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

In any case, let's talk about this more in January, once we're on the
new infrastructure and are thinking more about ongoing
information/infrastructure management than just moving what we've got.

Sounds good. The other reason I bring it up now is that we have this
current issue of some subdomains having web content - and I'm wondering
how we will address it within the drupal environment. For example where
will the mapguide.osgeo.org content live within osgeo.org drupal site?

Tyler

dear Jason, Tyler, all, +1 on all of this making sense.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/URI_Migration_Map was some notes i
made when thinking about this a while back that looks quite like your
prospective reality. CMS-wise I imagined a default set of themes for a
project site, including like a 'download area' module, and another
theme for a committee site. One other thing listed is trac/svn and the
extent to which this will be shared (trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/) or
mirrored across the different project namespaces.

Please do let me know when there's something to work on for a
committee site (geodata) and if there's anything i can provide to help
you set things up.

cheers,

jo
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 11:49:59AM -0800, Jason Birch wrote:

Should probably put the question to the MapGuide PSC :slight_smile: My preference
would be to split the content between the osgeo.org/project area and the
projectname.osgeo.org, interlinking between the sites as necessary.

Same goes for other projects with content in their host area.

Many of the projects have basic content at projectname.osgeo.org, but
really these sites should either commit entirely to our infrastructure
or have the host redirected to their domain.

Others have limited content that is only available on our site (like
GeoData) but I feel that this content would really work better under the
osgeo.org/(projects|committees)/projectname/ structure, so that they
have the benefit of the CMS without giving us the overhead of
maintaining multiple CMS instances.

We need to leverage the CMS and the functionality of Trac as much as
possible, so that we don't have to manually maintain HTML files, but
setting up an individual Drupal instance for each site is not
supportable in the long run. I also don't think it's wise from a
security/stability standpoint to allow direct filesystem or shell level
access to the site servers for project maintainers. Changes should go
through SAC (once SAC is up to speed on the servers).

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Mitchell [mailto:tylermitchell@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:22
To: sac@sac.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [SAC] Vhost standards, etc...

On 15-Dec-06, at 11:12 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

> In any case, let's talk about this more in January, once we're on the
> new infrastructure and are thinking more about ongoing
> information/infrastructure management than just moving what we've got.

Sounds good. The other reason I bring it up now is that we have this
current issue of some subdomains having web content - and I'm wondering
how we will address it within the drupal environment. For example where
will the mapguide.osgeo.org content live within osgeo.org drupal site?

Tyler

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