RE: [VisCom] OSGeo appearance @ Where 2.0

Arnulf-

In my experience, unless the presenters are *very* good and the crowd is
suitably oiled, this sort of thing can crash and burn all too easily.

(Case in point, the MSN butterfly guy at Where last year made an, umm,
memorable impression.)

Since Where 2.0 seems to be turning into such a major "launch" event for
OSGeo (and since I'm a naturally shy, retiring, and risk-averse engineer
type anyway), I'd be inclined not to risk it.

-mpg

-----Original Message-----
From: Arnulf Christl [mailto:arnulf.christl@ccgis.de]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:17 AM
To: dev@visibilitycommittee.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [VisCom] OSGeo appearance @ Where 2.0

Arnulf Christl wrote:
> Hi,
> we just came up with an idea for the presentation at Where
2.0. We have a
> story to tell and we can stage this a little. This is just
at the stage of
> an idea.
>
> The presentation has to be done by at least two people,
more is fine (how
> large a crowd could we muster at Where 2.0?). One of them
has to be Gary
> (are you with us?).
>
> It would start with Gary at one edge of the room and an OS
hacker, nerd -
> well us - coming from the other. Then they would start to
discuss about
> Open Source. Gary will look like always and wear a suite and tie and
> everything and the other guy maybe could wear a wig with
long hairs and a
> slightly rugged coat. Beard? Maybe. Beer? Why not. As they
talk they draw
> nearer and discuss Open Source methodology and what spatial
nerds talk
> about (basically tracing out the history of the OSGeo from
GRASS' roots
> till today and where 2.0 we want it to go). During the talk
Gary would
> loosen his tie and take it off, same with the jacket. The
bearded wizard
> of OZ would take off the coat and the wig and the beard.
Then Gary has to
> take off his shirt (oh, ah) - but wait - there is an OSGeo T-shirt
> underneath it, the same that the OS wizard wears. At the
end Gary might
> give away his sunglasses and the nerd passes hie beer on, etc.
>
> Would be fun. Oh yes, the end is that we present some
results from the
> FunCom meeting.
>
> We would need to have the t-shirts ready by then, together
with a ral cool
> motto - in the end we could even sell some of them.
>
> Cheers.
>

Hello,
anybody out there? Maybe I missed it but it seems like this idea was
ignored so far. This might mean it is a crappy idea, which is fine by
me, but I'd like someone to confirm this. The other
possibility is that
we did not explain the idea well enough to be intelligible (also my
(de)fault).
The background idea is to promote that .org meets .com and vice versa
and that they (we) both together will be more than just the
sum of the
parts. If this is a no-goer I'd like to forget about it soon.

Arnulf.

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I'd have to second Michael's take on this -- pulling that off either takes some real pros to truly make it work -- or it becomes corny and the butt of everyone's jokes.

Given the presence we're going to have - I don't think it's a risk we need to take.

My marketing 2 cents anyway.

Dave

Michael P. Gerlek wrote:

Arnulf-

In my experience, unless the presenters are *very* good and the crowd is
suitably oiled, this sort of thing can crash and burn all too easily.

(Case in point, the MSN butterfly guy at Where last year made an, umm,
memorable impression.)

Since Where 2.0 seems to be turning into such a major "launch" event for
OSGeo (and since I'm a naturally shy, retiring, and risk-averse engineer
type anyway), I'd be inclined not to risk it.

-mpg

-----Original Message-----
From: Arnulf Christl [mailto:arnulf.christl@ccgis.de] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:17 AM
To: dev@visibilitycommittee.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [VisCom] OSGeo appearance @ Where 2.0

Arnulf Christl wrote:

Hi,
we just came up with an idea for the presentation at Where

2.0. We have a

story to tell and we can stage this a little. This is just

at the stage of

an idea.

The presentation has to be done by at least two people,

more is fine (how

large a crowd could we muster at Where 2.0?). One of them

has to be Gary

(are you with us?).

It would start with Gary at one edge of the room and an OS

hacker, nerd -

well us - coming from the other. Then they would start to

discuss about

Open Source. Gary will look like always and wear a suite and tie and
everything and the other guy maybe could wear a wig with

long hairs and a

slightly rugged coat. Beard? Maybe. Beer? Why not. As they

talk they draw

nearer and discuss Open Source methodology and what spatial

nerds talk

about (basically tracing out the history of the OSGeo from

GRASS' roots

till today and where 2.0 we want it to go). During the talk

Gary would

loosen his tie and take it off, same with the jacket. The

bearded wizard

of OZ would take off the coat and the wig and the beard.

Then Gary has to

take off his shirt (oh, ah) - but wait - there is an OSGeo T-shirt
underneath it, the same that the OS wizard wears. At the

end Gary might

give away his sunglasses and the nerd passes hie beer on, etc.

Would be fun. Oh yes, the end is that we present some

results from the

FunCom meeting.

We would need to have the t-shirts ready by then, together

with a ral cool

motto - in the end we could even sell some of them.

Cheers.

Hello,
anybody out there? Maybe I missed it but it seems like this idea was ignored so far. This might mean it is a crappy idea, which is fine by me, but I'd like someone to confirm this. The other possibility is that we did not explain the idea well enough to be intelligible (also my (de)fault).
The background idea is to promote that .org meets .com and vice versa and that they (we) both together will be more than just the sum of the parts. If this is a no-goer I'd like to forget about it soon.

Arnulf.

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On Thursday 18 May 2006 06:51, Dave McIlhagga wrote:

I'd have to second Michael's take on this -- pulling that off either
takes some real pros to truly make it work -- or it becomes corny and
the butt of everyone's jokes.

Arnulf,
I agree with Dave and Michael on this. I can totally picture doing this and
know how it could work out. But this group at the conference is, in my
opinion, a very tough one. That is the sense I had during my presentation
last year. A wide range of people from hackers, devs, business, VC folks...
Very few are comfortable enough with their neighbours to graciously extend
imagination to the speakers on stage. I hope that by this time next year,
we'll all have had enough rubbing of shoulders with each that we can have
some more polished team presentations ready to go. Then maybe some more
'risky' like your proposal would be more realistic.

Sorry, didn't mean to ignore your idea! :S
Tyler