I believe Martin disabled them because he was concerned they were potential security problems (due to use of PHP or something), and no one has taken the time to investigate and secure them. I also find them to be useful resources, and digging a presentation of mine off an old conference site saved my bacon in Notthingham!
If it is possible to turn the site(s) into easily served static HTML that would make it easier to host them. We could also potentially decide to risk whatever the issue was but I’m not sure how to get to that decision.
I was looking for the Denver FOSS4G web site online at 2011.foss4g.org, and it no longer appears to be there, together with some of the other archived sites. 2007 and 2009 show up, but not 2008, 2010 or 2011.
I think these are really useful resources for various purposes. I don’t know if they were taken down intentionally or accidentally, but I think it would be good if they could be restored (I believe all the missing ones were hosted on OSGeo servers).
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Yup, just waiting on a volunteer to either:
1. patch the old php sites (upgrade ocs or whatever else the sites run on)
OR
2. run something like httrack over the sites to convert into static
Option 2 is probably easier, and safer long term. I think Eli was
interested in this, we just need to re-enable the sites over localhost
on the server and try it out.
More volunteers are welcome.
Turning them on as is, not really and option, we disabled them after
discovering suspicious behavior of the php executables.
FYI, it should be the stated practice in the FOSS4G organizing notes to
plan and archive the site after a conference finishes, so that we don't
run into this issue down the line. OSGeo is happy to hold the archives
(in Static form) of the sites even if they had been hosted elsewhere
when originally made.
Thanks,
Alex
On 04/24/2014 12:09 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
Peter,
I believe Martin disabled them because he was concerned they were potential
security problems (due to use of PHP or something), and no one has taken
the time to investigate and secure them. I also find them to be useful
resources, and digging a presentation of mine off an old conference site
saved my bacon in Notthingham!
If it is possible to turn the site(s) into easily served static HTML that
would make it easier to host them. We could also potentially decide to
risk whatever the issue was but I'm not sure how to get to that decision.
Best regards,
Frank
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Peter Batty <peter.batty@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I was looking for the Denver FOSS4G web site online at 2011.foss4g.org,
and it no longer appears to be there, together with some of the other
archived sites. 2007 and 2009 show up, but not 2008, 2010 or 2011.
I think these are really useful resources for various purposes. I don't
know if they were taken down intentionally or accidentally, but I think it
would be good if they could be restored (I believe all the missing ones
were hosted on OSGeo servers).
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
...
2. run something like httrack over the sites to convert into static
Option 2 is probably easier, and safer long term. I think Eli was
interested in this, we just need to re-enable the sites over localhost
on the server and try it out.
I am happy to help with option 2 since we need the sites back online
as static copy.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
...
2. run something like httrack over the sites to convert into static
Option 2 is probably easier, and safer long term. I think Eli was
interested in this, we just need to re-enable the sites over localhost
on the server and try it out.
I am happy to help with option 2 since we need the sites back online
as static copy.
I am willing to run httrack over the sites. I don't really know
httrack but after an hour of experimenting on some sites offered to
try it on the premise that it would be better than nothing. Would be
glad to work with Markus on this or defer if he prefers to do it.
Markus
FYI, it should be the stated practice in the FOSS4G organizing notes to
plan and archive the site after a conference finishes, so that we don't
run into this issue down the line. OSGeo is happy to hold the archives
(in Static form) of the sites even if they had been hosted elsewhere
when originally made.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
...
2. run something like httrack over the sites to convert into static
Option 2 is probably easier, and safer long term. I think Eli was
interested in this, we just need to re-enable the sites over localhost
on the server and try it out.
I am happy to help with option 2 since we need the sites back online
as static copy.
I am willing to run httrack over the sites. I don't really know
httrack but after an hour of experimenting on some sites offered to
try it on the premise that it would be better than nothing. Would be
glad to work with Markus on this or defer if he prefers to do it.
Markus
FYI, it should be the stated practice in the FOSS4G organizing notes to
plan and archive the site after a conference finishes, so that we don't
run into this issue down the line. OSGeo is happy to hold the archives
(in Static form) of the sites even if they had been hosted elsewhere
when originally made.
Yes, there was just a minor detail missing from that. Perpetually
keeping old dynamic language sites running is hazardous, they need to be
converted to static sites for proper archiving. It's only recently that
we really thought this out.
Once we get the figure out how to do it, shouldn't be too hard to do a
few months after each conf.
Thanks,
Alex
On 04/24/2014 01:44 PM, Peter Batty wrote:
I'm not familiar with the specifics of this particular security issue, but
at the time we did the Denver conference the web site policy as I
understood it for FOSS4G was that we were strongly encouraged to host the
web site on the OSGeo servers, with the idea that it could just continue to
live there after the conference - or if the original site was hosted
elsewhere then it should be archived to the OSGeo servers afterwards.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com>wrote:
Yup, just waiting on a volunteer to either:
1. patch the old php sites (upgrade ocs or whatever else the sites run on)
OR
2. run something like httrack over the sites to convert into static
Option 2 is probably easier, and safer long term. I think Eli was
interested in this, we just need to re-enable the sites over localhost
on the server and try it out.
More volunteers are welcome.
Turning them on as is, not really and option, we disabled them after
discovering suspicious behavior of the php executables.
FYI, it should be the stated practice in the FOSS4G organizing notes to
plan and archive the site after a conference finishes, so that we don't
run into this issue down the line. OSGeo is happy to hold the archives
(in Static form) of the sites even if they had been hosted elsewhere
when originally made.
Thanks,
Alex
On 04/24/2014 12:09 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
Peter,
I believe Martin disabled them because he was concerned they were
potential
security problems (due to use of PHP or something), and no one has taken
the time to investigate and secure them. I also find them to be useful
resources, and digging a presentation of mine off an old conference site
saved my bacon in Notthingham!
If it is possible to turn the site(s) into easily served static HTML that
would make it easier to host them. We could also potentially decide to
risk whatever the issue was but I'm not sure how to get to that decision.
Best regards,
Frank
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Peter Batty <peter.batty@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi all,
I was looking for the Denver FOSS4G web site online at 2011.foss4g.org,
and it no longer appears to be there, together with some of the other
archived sites. 2007 and 2009 show up, but not 2008, 2010 or 2011.
I think these are really useful resources for various purposes. I don't
know if they were taken down intentionally or accidentally, but I think
it
would be good if they could be restored (I believe all the missing ones
were hosted on OSGeo servers).