[SAC] budget 2017

In response to the board request, I'd like to propose that for 2017
we request budget for infrastructure consolidation, maintainance
and growth.

Example of things that should be addressed:

- Upgrading TRAC to latest release
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1816

- Adding LDAP support to the wiki
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/165

- Mailman "message held" form action is http
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1677

- Add backup for tracsvn:/home/git/gogs/data
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1657

- Setup more VMs for testing new services

Previous years budget can be found here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Budget

The 2016 one is still unspent, btw, due to lack of decision upon
the second sysadmin contract (which I proposed as a agenda point
for a never made september meeting: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Sep2016)
I'll make a motion for that part.

I think 2017 could benefit from a further raise in budget,
starting from 15K. What do you think ?

--strk;

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:41:15PM +0100, Sandro Santilli wrote:

I think 2017 could benefit from a further raise in budget,
starting from 15K. What do you think ?

For the record, I found out that 15K was also suggested by Alex
during the May 2016 meeting:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:May2016#Funding_sysadmin_work

See "Ideas & Proposals" section.

Please reply to this mail to confirm you agree with that so
we (Alex?) can send an official statement to the board.

--strk;

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Sandro Santilli <strk@kbt.io> wrote:

In response to the board request, I'd like to propose that for 2017
we request budget for infrastructure consolidation, maintainance
and growth.

Example of things that should be addressed:

- Upgrading TRAC to latest release
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1816

+1

- Adding LDAP support to the wiki
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/165

+1 (strong one, priority even since the current way of manual
authorization does not scale well)

- Mailman "message held" form action is http
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1677

+1

- Add backup for tracsvn:/home/git/gogs/data
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1657

+1

- Setup more VMs for testing new services

+1

In addition: We should check why the trac machine is so slow lately.
Probably some services on that machine need to me migrated to a
different one?

Previous years budget can be found here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Budget

The 2016 one is still unspent, btw, due to lack of decision upon
the second sysadmin contract (which I proposed as a agenda point
for a never made september meeting: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Sep2016)
I'll make a motion for that part.

Yes, thanks.

I think 2017 could benefit from a further raise in budget,
starting from 15K. What do you think ?

+1

Markus

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 01:47:34PM +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Sandro Santilli <strk@kbt.io> wrote:

> - Setup more VMs for testing new services

+1

In addition: We should check why the trac machine is so slow lately.
Probably some services on that machine need to me migrated to a
different one?

That's exactly why I'm talking about "setup more VMs", the new services
on tracsvn machine are probably just git & gogs. Next step for that
would be moving the couple to a different machine (possibly to do
that once gogs gets upgraded to gitea [1])

[1] https://blog.gitea.io/2016/12/welcome-to-gitea/

--strk;

I think also you/we could consider something like a "SAC sprint", to tackle some of the tougher issues together. Sometimes meeting face-to-face helps get through these issues, even if just throwing ideas back and forth.

Maybe this is a silly idea, but I thought I'd share it anyway :slight_smile:

-jeff

On 2016-12-16 7:41 AM, Sandro Santilli wrote:

In response to the board request, I'd like to propose that for 2017
we request budget for infrastructure consolidation, maintainance
and growth.

Example of things that should be addressed:

- Upgrading TRAC to latest release
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1816

- Adding LDAP support to the wiki
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/165

- Mailman "message held" form action is http
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1677

- Add backup for tracsvn:/home/git/gogs/data
   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1657

- Setup more VMs for testing new services

Previous years budget can be found here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Budget

The 2016 one is still unspent, btw, due to lack of decision upon
the second sysadmin contract (which I proposed as a agenda point
for a never made september meeting: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Sep2016)
I'll make a motion for that part.

I think 2017 could benefit from a further raise in budget,
starting from 15K. What do you think ?

--strk;

Hmm,

Makes me think of another silly idea. Why not make the System Admin tasks into it’s own project like the OSGeo LiveDVD. Could incorporate the idea of regular get togethers over the year for solving the hard stuff, could use OSGeo funds to seed the start at the very least. It instantly adds some organizational structure by being a project, etc. Oooh, I wonder how many committees this might work for . . . .

Maybe this is a silly idea, but I thought I’d share it anyway :slight_smile: :c)

bobb

On Dec 16, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:

I think also you/we could consider something like a “SAC sprint”, to tackle some of the tougher issues together. Sometimes meeting face-to-face helps get through these issues, even if just throwing ideas back and forth.

Maybe this is a silly idea, but I thought I’d share it anyway :slight_smile:

-jeff

On 2016-12-16 7:41 AM, Sandro Santilli wrote:

In response to the board request, I’d like to propose that for 2017
we request budget for infrastructure consolidation, maintainance
and growth.

Example of things that should be addressed:

Previous years budget can be found here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Budget

The 2016 one is still unspent, btw, due to lack of decision upon
the second sysadmin contract (which I proposed as a agenda point
for a never made september meeting: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Sep2016)
I’ll make a motion for that part.

I think 2017 could benefit from a further raise in budget,
starting from 15K. What do you think ?

–strk;


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On 12/16/2016 05:02 AM, Sandro Santilli wrote:

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 01:47:34PM +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Sandro Santilli <strk@kbt.io> wrote:

- Setup more VMs for testing new services

+1

In addition: We should check why the trac machine is so slow lately.
Probably some services on that machine need to me migrated to a
different one?

That's exactly why I'm talking about "setup more VMs", the new services
on tracsvn machine are probably just git & gogs. Next step for that
would be moving the couple to a different machine (possibly to do
that once gogs gets upgraded to gitea [1])

[1] https://blog.gitea.io/2016/12/welcome-to-gitea/

--strk;

1. Finish retiring OSGeo4: which means moving or replacing QGIS and
Adhoc Vms.

2. Buy a replacement for OSGeo3: which allows for setting up more "VMs"
or other containers. We spent ~$6000 on OSGeo6

2a. Trac should be moved to wsgi based hosting to improve performance.
Other servers where apache gets overloaded should be looked at and
considered for migration to NGINX when possible (if we have someone who
can performance tweak it)

I agree a budget between $10-15,000 to allow for more service contracts.

Do people have time for a meeting before the holidays?

Thanks,
Alex

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 08:20:46AM -0800, Alex Mandel wrote:

Do people have time for a meeting before the holidays?

I'd be available next week, any (work) day.

--strk;

Doubling back to this thread after recent budget discussion/questions. The board set a goal of redoing the website presence in 2017 (RFQ,content migration,etc…). It was unclear if the 15K request from SAC took this into account or not?

  • Marketing committee has volunteer to run an EOI/RFQ process for an external vendor to do the work (see https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Meeting_2016-12-30).

  • Although we reached out to Alex Mandel it was unclear if the 15K request from SAC took this initiative into account?

Since it was unclear we have penciled in 8K for SAC as part of budget/fundraising target. The draft budget https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2017 has the high level outline.

Should fund raising target be met by end of January go/no-go the final budget for SAC would be 23k. It would be great if a member of SAC could be involved in the EOI / RFQ process (and present for the go/no-go decision).

···

On 16 December 2016 at 03:41, Sandro Santilli <strk@kbt.io> wrote:

In response to the board request, I’d like to propose that for 2017
we request budget for infrastructure consolidation, maintainance
and growth.

Example of things that should be addressed:

Previous years budget can be found here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Budget

The 2016 one is still unspent, btw, due to lack of decision upon
the second sysadmin contract (which I proposed as a agenda point
for a never made september meeting: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Sep2016)
I’ll make a motion for that part.

I think 2017 could benefit from a further raise in budget,
starting from 15K. What do you think ?

–strk;


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