Hi SAC,
I have discovered that all emails generated for me on the
projectsVM (cronjobs etc) and trac.osgeo.org (ticket notifications)
are kept locally rather than going to my osgeo.org address.
I have no idea how to solve that.
Hints?
thanks
Markus
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:52:55AM +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
I have discovered that all emails generated for me on the
projectsVM (cronjobs etc) and trac.osgeo.org (ticket notifications)
are kept locally rather than going to my osgeo.org address.
Are these machines supposed not to mainain any local mailboxes or do
some of the users expect to read local folders ?
I have no idea how to solve that.
I do 
Cheers,
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On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:52:55AM +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
I have discovered that all emails generated for me on the
projectsVM (cronjobs etc) and trac.osgeo.org (ticket notifications)
are kept locally rather than going to my osgeo.org address.Are these machines supposed not to mainain any local mailboxes or do
some of the users expect to read local folders ?
No idea.
On trac.osgeo.org, there are filled mailboxes for
astrid_emde christoph neteler osuadmin tmitchell
On the projectsVM (some mbox files are even fat!):
crschmidt lbecchi mail mapserver neteler openlayers osuadmin
pramsey www-data
I suspect that those people don't even know that they
have tons of undelivered emails there.
I have no idea how to solve that.
I do
Cool! I shall stay tuned then
ciao
Markus
Cheers,
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On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 01:34:58AM +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:52:55AM +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
>> I have no idea how to solve that.
>
> I doCool! I shall stay tuned then
Not sure .... the config on 'projects' looks to me like someone's
intentionally keeping EMail local for certain recipients
(openlayers.org, featureserver.org).
If we'd change the default to routing everything to external
recipients, like you (and I) would expect, then we _might_ break some
person's setup (I simply don't know), if it relies on local folders..
What about changing the default after two days if nobody claims local
delivery for his stuff.
Cheers,
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On December 23, 2010 04:34:58 pm Markus Neteler wrote:
I suspect that those people don't even know that they
have tons of undelivered emails there.
Wow - I certainly didn't know it. Nor do I miss it
On Dec 23, 2010, at 7:45 PM, ext Martin Spott wrote:
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 01:34:58AM +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:52:55AM +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
I have no idea how to solve that.
I do
Cool! I shall stay tuned then
Not sure .... the config on 'projects' looks to me like someone's
intentionally keeping EMail local for certain recipients
(openlayers.org, featureserver.org).
Mail is forwarded through there for mailing lists that were previously
hosted on those domains. There is no local mail storage for those domains,
and I don't expect there to ever be any.
My mail on the servers is cronjobs that are noisy; I haven't cared
int the past because I just ignore that email
So long as things like "dev@openlayers.org" will still forward to the
current external mailing address, I don't have any problems or concerns.
-- Chris
If we'd change the default to routing everything to external
recipients, like you (and I) would expect, then we _might_ break some
person's setup (I simply don't know), if it relies on local folders..What about changing the default after two days if nobody claims local
delivery for his stuff.Cheers,
Martin.
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On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 02:26:09AM +0000, christopher.schmidt@nokia.com wrote:
My mail on the servers is cronjobs that are noisy; I haven't cared
int the past because I just ignore that email
Well, it's up to you to silence the cronjobs
So long as things like "dev@openlayers.org" will still forward to the
current external mailing address, I don't have any problems or concerns.
Wile we're at it, should we aim for the 'clean' solution and install a
proper MX record for "osgeo.org" ?
Cheers,
Martin.
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On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 02:26:09AM +0000, christopher.schmidt@nokia.com wrote:
My mail on the servers is cronjobs that are noisy; I haven't cared
int the past because I just ignore that emailWell, it's up to you to silence the cronjobs
I would still be interested to real my emails Or learn
how to get them out of trac and projectsVM without too
much pain and automatically...
So long as things like "dev@openlayers.org" will still forward to the
current external mailing address, I don't have any problems or concerns.Wile we're at it, should we aim for the 'clean' solution and install a
proper MX record for "osgeo.org" ?
Sounds like a plan!
thanks
Markus
Hi,
I have changed the MTA configuration on the following machines so they
do _not_ act as an authoritative mail sink for "<something>@osgeo.org"
any more:
adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org
backup.osgeo.osuosl.org
projects.osgeo.osuosl.org
qgis.osgeo.osuosl.org
secure.osgeo.osuosl.org
tracsvn.osgeo.osuosl.org
webextra.osgeo.osuosl.org
web.osgeo.osuosl.org
wiki.osgeo.osuosl.org
All these VM's Postfix'es now behave in the same way - except from the
'projects' VM which had been configured as final destination for
'openlayers.org', 'featureserver.org' and whose local 'aliases' file
has forwarders for 7 mailing lists (no idea why this would make sense,
but I'll leave it as-is).
Aside from that, I've added a DNS MX record for 'osgeo.org' pointing to
'mail.osgeo.org'.
While I was at it, I noticed that there are two MX'es, one for
'lists.osgeo.org' pointing at 'lists.osgeo.org' and another one for
'mail.osgeo.org' pointing at 'mail.osgeo.org'. Unless someone is
relying on these MX'es for some special EMail routing gimmicks, I'd
recommend to remove the latter ones because I think they're just
useless overhead, probably adding more confusion than value.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Aside from that, I've added a DNS MX record for 'osgeo.org' pointing to
'mail.osgeo.org'.
While I was at it, I noticed that there are two MX'es, one for
'lists.osgeo.org' pointing at 'lists.osgeo.org' and another one for
'mail.osgeo.org' pointing at 'mail.osgeo.org'. Unless someone is
relying on these MX'es for some special EMail routing gimmicks, I'd
recommend to remove the latter ones because I think they're just
useless overhead, probably adding more confusion than value.
Martin,
I don't really know much about how MX records, but lists.osgeo.org is
certainly an important destination for mailing lists and I don't want
anything to break that.
I haven't personally setup any of the MX records.
Best regards,
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Hi Frank,
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:54:42AM -0500, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>While I was at it, I noticed that there are two MX'es, one for
>'lists.osgeo.org' pointing at 'lists.osgeo.org' and another one for
>'mail.osgeo.org' pointing at 'mail.osgeo.org'. Unless someone is
>relying on these MX'es for some special EMail routing gimmicks, I'd
>recommend to remove the latter ones because I think they're just
>useless overhead, probably adding more confusion than value.
I don't really know much about how MX records, but lists.osgeo.org is
certainly an important destination for mailing lists and I don't want
anything to break that.
Sure.
Basically you'd like to have an MX record in those cases when the
hostname part of the addressee, the part after the "@" sign, is
different from the hostname to which the respective EMail is to be
delivered. The name 'lists.osgeo.org' is registered as a DNS A-record,
thus there's very little use in having an MX for a hostname pointing to
the identical A-record :-))
Cheers,
Martin.
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