[SAC] Final sign-off items

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1

Jeffrey,

Did you ever send me that document about your general setup steps.

I apologize if you did and I missed it. Doesn’t have to be crazy

Just should cover things like

  1. The version wordpress you started off with

  2. How to enable / disable the filter (though I think I see that from wordpress admin) so probably not necessary.

  3. Any gotchas we should be aware of or special backup steps beyond standard backup of wordpress websites, mysql db

Thanks,

Regina

2

Jeffrey,

Thanks. Oh one more thing to add would be good.

What apache php extensions you needed to install for the plugins in use.

From: Jeffrey Lasut [mailto:j.lasut@getinteractive.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:50 AM
To: Regina Obe lr@pcorp.us
Cc: Jody Garnett jody.garnett@gmail.com; System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo sac@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: Final sign-off items

Hi Regina,

Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances I wasn’t able to write the doc for you.

We moved the taks to this week, I’ll keep you informed.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Jeffrey Lasut

+31 (0)30 60 808 48
j.lasut@getinteractive.nl

www.getinteractive.nl (Nederlands)

www.getinteractive.org (English)

Dorpsstraat 50, 3433 CM Nieuwegein

Op dit e-mailbericht zijn de algemene voorwaarden van Get Interactive van toepassing.
Deze kunt u terug vinden op onze website http://www.getinteractive.nl/algemene-voorwaarden/.

On 7 December 2017 at 21:09, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

Jeffrey,

Did you ever send me that document about your general setup steps.

I apologize if you did and I missed it. Doesn’t have to be crazy

Just should cover things like

  1. The version wordpress you started off with

  2. How to enable / disable the filter (though I think I see that from wordpress admin) so probably not necessary.

  3. Any gotchas we should be aware of or special backup steps beyond standard backup of wordpress websites, mysql db

Thanks,

Regina

3

Jeff,

Looks good to me. I think this information will be sufficient for us to resetup when we need to. I'll update our wiki page with these details.

I think strk and Alex had some concerns about non-free plugins
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2017-December/009022.html

- in particular
Advanced Custom Fields PRO
WP All Import Pro (this one I don't even see perhaps it was removed)

It's pretty obvious to me looking at the back-end how the Advanced Custom Fields Pro is use, so probably not worth elaborating.

Jody et. al,
I believe all contract items are in order now and GetInteractive has fulfilled their check-off items. Is everyone in agreement?

What follows next?

Thanks,
Regina

From: Jeffrey Lasut [mailto:j.lasut@getinteractive.nl]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:19 AM
To: Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Cc: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>; System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo <sac@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: Final sign-off items

Hi Regina,

Ik have added a Google doc to the marketing directory:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hNtzqDucoWLzifERN7JgjMHVqcPUN64xMwX8aCGvnDU/edit#heading=h.4fcpzrxew8f3

If you have any question please let me know.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Jeffrey Lasut

+31 (0)30 60 808 48
j.lasut@getinteractive.nl
www.getinteractive.nl (Nederlands)
www.getinteractive.org (English)

Dorpsstraat 50, 3433 CM Nieuwegein

Op dit e-mailbericht zijn de algemene voorwaarden van Get Interactive van toepassing.
Deze kunt u terug vinden op onze website http://www.getinteractive.nl/algemene-voorwaarden/.

On 12 December 2017 at 14:11, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:
Jeffrey,

Thanks. Oh one more thing to add would be good.

What apache php extensions you needed to install for the plugins in use.

From: Jeffrey Lasut [mailto:j.lasut@getinteractive.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:50 AM
To: Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Cc: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>; System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo <sac@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: Final sign-off items

Hi Regina,

Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances I wasn't able to write the doc for you.
We moved the taks to this week, I'll keep you informed.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Jeffrey Lasut

+31 (0)30 60 808 48
j.lasut@getinteractive.nl
www.getinteractive.nl (Nederlands)
www.getinteractive.org (English)

Dorpsstraat 50, 3433 CM Nieuwegein

Op dit e-mailbericht zijn de algemene voorwaarden van Get Interactive van toepassing.
Deze kunt u terug vinden op onze website http://www.getinteractive.nl/algemene-voorwaarden/.

On 7 December 2017 at 21:09, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:
Jeffrey,

Did you ever send me that document about your general setup steps.

I apologize if you did and I missed it. Doesn't have to be crazy

Just should cover things like

1) The version wordpress you started off with
2) How to enable / disable the filter (though I think I see that from wordpress admin) so probably not necessary.
3) Any gotchas we should be aware of or special backup steps beyond standard backup of wordpress websites, mysql db

Thanks,
Regina

4

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 03:19:30PM -0500, Regina Obe wrote:

I think strk and Alex had some concerns about non-free plugins
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2017-December/009022.html

- in particular
Advanced Custom Fields PRO
WP All Import Pro (this one I don't even see perhaps it was removed)

It's pretty obvious to me looking at the back-end how the Advanced Custom Fields Pro is use, so probably not worth elaborating.

I'd actually like to read an elaboration of this.
What do we need exactly ? Is the use of a proprietary plugin
acceptable solution for that need ?

--strk;

5

Just catching up on email, if you are content please make a motion for SAC, and let the board know.

···

On 15 December 2017 at 12:19, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

Jeff,

Looks good to me. I think this information will be sufficient for us to resetup when we need to. I’ll update our wiki page with these details.

I think strk and Alex had some concerns about non-free plugins
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2017-December/009022.html

  • in particular
    Advanced Custom Fields PRO
    WP All Import Pro (this one I don’t even see perhaps it was removed)

It’s pretty obvious to me looking at the back-end how the Advanced Custom Fields Pro is use, so probably not worth elaborating.

Jody et. al,
I believe all contract items are in order now and GetInteractive has fulfilled their check-off items. Is everyone in agreement?

What follows next?

Thanks,
Regina

From: Jeffrey Lasut [mailto:j.lasut@getinteractive.nl]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:19 AM
To: Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Cc: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>; System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo <sac@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: Final sign-off items

Hi Regina,

Ik have added a Google doc to the marketing directory:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hNtzqDucoWLzifERN7JgjMHVqcPUN64xMwX8aCGvnDU/edit#heading=h.4fcpzrxew8f3

If you have any question please let me know.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Jeffrey Lasut

+31 (0)30 60 808 48
j.lasut@getinteractive.nl
www.getinteractive.nl (Nederlands)
www.getinteractive.org (English)

Dorpsstraat 50, 3433 CM Nieuwegein

Op dit e-mailbericht zijn de algemene voorwaarden van Get Interactive van toepassing.
Deze kunt u terug vinden op onze website http://www.getinteractive.nl/algemene-voorwaarden/.

On 12 December 2017 at 14:11, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:
Jeffrey,

Thanks. Oh one more thing to add would be good.

What apache php extensions you needed to install for the plugins in use.

From: Jeffrey Lasut [mailto:j.lasut@getinteractive.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:50 AM
To: Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Cc: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>; System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo <sac@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: Final sign-off items

Hi Regina,

Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances I wasn’t able to write the doc for you.
We moved the taks to this week, I’ll keep you informed.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Jeffrey Lasut

+31 (0)30 60 808 48
j.lasut@getinteractive.nl
www.getinteractive.nl (Nederlands)
www.getinteractive.org (English)

Dorpsstraat 50, 3433 CM Nieuwegein

Op dit e-mailbericht zijn de algemene voorwaarden van Get Interactive van toepassing.
Deze kunt u terug vinden op onze website http://www.getinteractive.nl/algemene-voorwaarden/.

On 7 December 2017 at 21:09, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:
Jeffrey,

Did you ever send me that document about your general setup steps.

I apologize if you did and I missed it. Doesn’t have to be crazy

Just should cover things like

  1. The version wordpress you started off with
  2. How to enable / disable the filter (though I think I see that from wordpress admin) so probably not necessary.
  3. Any gotchas we should be aware of or special backup steps beyond standard backup of wordpress websites, mysql db

Thanks,
Regina

–
Jody Garnett

6

I’m content.

Is everyone in SAC content that GetInteractive fulfilled their part? If so Alex can you raise to board.

Thanks,

Regina

From: Jody Garnett [mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 2:56 PM
To: Regina Obe lr@pcorp.us
Cc: Jeffrey Lasut j.lasut@getinteractive.nl; System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo sac@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: Final sign-off items

Just catching up on email, if you are content please make a motion for SAC, and let the board know.

–

Jody Garnett

On 15 December 2017 at 12:19, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

Jeff,

Looks good to me. I think this information will be sufficient for us to resetup when we need to. I’ll update our wiki page with these details.

I think strk and Alex had some concerns about non-free plugins
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2017-December/009022.html

  • in particular
    Advanced Custom Fields PRO
    WP All Import Pro (this one I don’t even see perhaps it was removed)

It’s pretty obvious to me looking at the back-end how the Advanced Custom Fields Pro is use, so probably not worth elaborating.

Jody et. al,
I believe all contract items are in order now and GetInteractive has fulfilled their check-off items. Is everyone in agreement?

What follows next?

Thanks,
Regina

From: Jeffrey Lasut [mailto:j.lasut@getinteractive.nl]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:19 AM
To: Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Cc: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>; System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo <sac@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: Final sign-off items

Hi Regina,

Ik have added a Google doc to the marketing directory:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hNtzqDucoWLzifERN7JgjMHVqcPUN64xMwX8aCGvnDU/edit#heading=h.4fcpzrxew8f3

If you have any question please let me know.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Jeffrey Lasut

+31 (0)30 60 808 48
j.lasut@getinteractive.nl
www.getinteractive.nl (Nederlands)
www.getinteractive.org (English)

Dorpsstraat 50, 3433 CM Nieuwegein

Op dit e-mailbericht zijn de algemene voorwaarden van Get Interactive van toepassing.
Deze kunt u terug vinden op onze website http://www.getinteractive.nl/algemene-voorwaarden/.

On 12 December 2017 at 14:11, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:
Jeffrey,

Thanks. Oh one more thing to add would be good.

What apache php extensions you needed to install for the plugins in use.

From: Jeffrey Lasut [mailto:j.lasut@getinteractive.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:50 AM
To: Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Cc: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>; System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo <sac@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: Final sign-off items

Hi Regina,

Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances I wasn’t able to write the doc for you.
We moved the taks to this week, I’ll keep you informed.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Jeffrey Lasut

+31 (0)30 60 808 48
j.lasut@getinteractive.nl
www.getinteractive.nl (Nederlands)
www.getinteractive.org (English)

Dorpsstraat 50, 3433 CM Nieuwegein

Op dit e-mailbericht zijn de algemene voorwaarden van Get Interactive van toepassing.
Deze kunt u terug vinden op onze website http://www.getinteractive.nl/algemene-voorwaarden/.

On 7 December 2017 at 21:09, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:
Jeffrey,

Did you ever send me that document about your general setup steps.

I apologize if you did and I missed it. Doesn’t have to be crazy

Just should cover things like

  1. The version wordpress you started off with
  2. How to enable / disable the filter (though I think I see that from wordpress admin) so probably not necessary.
  3. Any gotchas we should be aware of or special backup steps beyond standard backup of wordpress websites, mysql db

Thanks,
Regina

7

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 03:18:21PM -0500, Regina Obe wrote:

Is everyone in SAC content that GetInteractive fulfilled their part?

I'm not content about relying on a proprietary wordpress plugin:

  - Advanced Custom Fields PRO

You say it's obvious to you how it is used, can you explain that to
others ? What would be lost by removing that plugin ? Are there
alternatives ? Was there a clause in the contract about only using
free software ?

--strk;

8

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 03:18:21PM -0500, Regina Obe wrote:

Is everyone in SAC content that GetInteractive fulfilled their part?

I'm not content about relying on a proprietary wordpress plugin:

> - Advanced Custom Fields PRO

Whether or not you are we can get rid of it later. I guess the only question for holding up closure of this contract is this question you pose

Was there a clause in the contract about only using free software ?

I don't have contract in front of me, but I suspect not. Jody or Jeff you have the contract handy to confirm?
Even if it is not sure it's worth holding up since I believe GetInteractive has gone beyond the contract in other ways so to me sounds like a wash.

You say it's obvious to you how it is used, can you explain that to others ? What would be lost by removing that plugin ?

If you look in wordpress admin -

You will see a section called Custom Fields -> Field Groups it shows all places where this plugin is used and rules under which it is active.
" just as description says allows addition of custom fields on various pages and controlled by various rules."

So first off, I think the Sponsors page might break. We can test that out by deactivating the plugin.

Are there alternatives ?
--strk;

There is ACF (non-Pro version) which at least has a public github, but given no licensing info I can find, not sure what to make of the FOSSishness of it.
They at least accept pull requests.

https://github.com/AdvancedCustomFields/acf

What functionality we lose if we downgrade to Non-Pro that we are currently using I haven't investigated. Perhaps GI knows off hand and can elaborate.

I suspect there are others but mapping Advanced Custom Fields metadata use might be trickier or perhaps not.

According to this post https://support.advancedcustomfields.com/forums/topic/exportingimporting-field-values-between-installations/
the fields are stored in table wp_postmeta

Thanks,
Regina

9

Jeff,

Thanks.

Alex and strk,

Have any further concerns? Or can we just agree we are satisfied and move on to other things so board can push forward with final payment.

Thanks,

Regina

From: Jeffrey Lasut [mailto:j.lasut@getinteractive.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 10:59 AM
To: Regina Obe lr@pcorp.us
Cc: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo sac@lists.osgeo.org; Jody Garnett jody.garnett@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [SAC] Final sign-off items

Hi Regina,

I’m just back from holiday.

I can confirm that we use Advanced Custom Fields PRO in the OSGeo website.

In the PRO version there are some additional features that we use for the OSGeo website. So currently the OSGeo website is relying on this plugin.

The PRO licence is a onetime payment of $25,- for a lifetime licence, so I don’t think it’s worth the hassle of removing or switching.

In the contract there is mentioned we will be using some paid plugins, and Advanced Custom Fields PRO is one of them. There is no clause that says we can only use free plugins.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Jeffrey Lasut

+31 (0)30 60 808 48
j.lasut@getinteractive.nl

www.getinteractive.nl (Nederlands)

www.getinteractive.org (English)

Dorpsstraat 50, 3433 CM Nieuwegein

Op dit e-mailbericht zijn de algemene voorwaarden van Get Interactive van toepassing.
Deze kunt u terug vinden op onze website http://www.getinteractive.nl/algemene-voorwaarden/.

On 21 December 2017 at 01:44, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 03:18:21PM -0500, Regina Obe wrote:

Is everyone in SAC content that GetInteractive fulfilled their part?

I’m not content about relying on a proprietary wordpress plugin:

  • Advanced Custom Fields PRO

Whether or not you are we can get rid of it later. I guess the only question for holding up closure of this contract is this question you pose

Was there a clause in the contract about only using free software ?
I don’t have contract in front of me, but I suspect not. Jody or Jeff you have the contract handy to confirm?
Even if it is not sure it’s worth holding up since I believe GetInteractive has gone beyond the contract in other ways so to me sounds like a wash.

You say it’s obvious to you how it is used, can you explain that to others ? What would be lost by removing that plugin ?
If you look in wordpress admin -

You will see a section called Custom Fields → Field Groups it shows all places where this plugin is used and rules under which it is active.
" just as description says allows addition of custom fields on various pages and controlled by various rules."

So first off, I think the Sponsors page might break. We can test that out by deactivating the plugin.

Are there alternatives ?
–strk;
There is ACF (non-Pro version) which at least has a public github, but given no licensing info I can find, not sure what to make of the FOSSishness of it.
They at least accept pull requests.

https://github.com/AdvancedCustomFields/acf

What functionality we lose if we downgrade to Non-Pro that we are currently using I haven’t investigated. Perhaps GI knows off hand and can elaborate.

I suspect there are others but mapping Advanced Custom Fields metadata use might be trickier or perhaps not.

According to this post https://support.advancedcustomfields.com/forums/topic/exportingimporting-field-values-between-installations/
the fields are stored in table wp_postmeta

Thanks,
Regina

10

On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 Jeffrey Lasut wrote:

In the PRO version there are some additional features that we use for the OSGeo website.

Jeffrey: what additional features ?

I'd really like to avoid being stuck with an unapgradeable plugin like
Advanced Custom Fields PRO seems to be at this moment.

--strk;

11

On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 Jeffrey Lasut wrote:
>

In the PRO version there are some additional features that we use for the OSGeo website.

Jeffrey: what additional features ?

I'd really like to avoid being stuck with an unapgradeable plugin like Advanced Custom Fields PRO seems to be at this moment.

--strk;

Jeffrey,

To strk's point, it seems we don't have an activation key to upgrade the Advanced Custom Field PRO. Did you ever get an activation key for this or do we need to purchase the license to get an activation key?

Thanks,
Regina

12

I confirmed with Jeffrey Lasut and Michael Smith that that all invoices are paid and the 2017 project is wrapped up.

We have an hour a month for support to which we can use to answer some of the questions raised here, however we do not have to worry about holding up payment over these questions.

···

On 2 January 2018 at 08:17, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

Jeff,

Thanks.

Alex and strk,

Have any further concerns? Or can we just agree we are satisfied and move on to other things so board can push forward with final payment.

Thanks,

Regina

From: Jeffrey Lasut [mailto:j.lasut@getinteractive.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 10:59 AM
To: Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>
Cc: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo <sac@lists.osgeo.org>; Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SAC] Final sign-off items

Hi Regina,

I’m just back from holiday.

I can confirm that we use Advanced Custom Fields PRO in the OSGeo website.

In the PRO version there are some additional features that we use for the OSGeo website. So currently the OSGeo website is relying on this plugin.

The PRO licence is a onetime payment of $25,- for a lifetime licence, so I don’t think it’s worth the hassle of removing or switching.

In the contract there is mentioned we will be using some paid plugins, and Advanced Custom Fields PRO is one of them. There is no clause that says we can only use free plugins.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Jeffrey Lasut

+31 (0)30 60 808 48
j.lasut@getinteractive.nl

www.getinteractive.nl (Nederlands)

www.getinteractive.org (English)

Dorpsstraat 50, 3433 CM Nieuwegein

Op dit e-mailbericht zijn de algemene voorwaarden van Get Interactive van toepassing.
Deze kunt u terug vinden op onze website http://www.getinteractive.nl/algemene-voorwaarden/.

On 21 December 2017 at 01:44, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 03:18:21PM -0500, Regina Obe wrote:

Is everyone in SAC content that GetInteractive fulfilled their part?

I’m not content about relying on a proprietary wordpress plugin:

  • Advanced Custom Fields PRO

Whether or not you are we can get rid of it later. I guess the only question for holding up closure of this contract is this question you pose

Was there a clause in the contract about only using free software ?
I don’t have contract in front of me, but I suspect not. Jody or Jeff you have the contract handy to confirm?
Even if it is not sure it’s worth holding up since I believe GetInteractive has gone beyond the contract in other ways so to me sounds like a wash.

You say it’s obvious to you how it is used, can you explain that to others ? What would be lost by removing that plugin ?
If you look in wordpress admin -

You will see a section called Custom Fields → Field Groups it shows all places where this plugin is used and rules under which it is active.
" just as description says allows addition of custom fields on various pages and controlled by various rules."

So first off, I think the Sponsors page might break. We can test that out by deactivating the plugin.

Are there alternatives ?
–strk;
There is ACF (non-Pro version) which at least has a public github, but given no licensing info I can find, not sure what to make of the FOSSishness of it.
They at least accept pull requests.

https://github.com/AdvancedCustomFields/acf

What functionality we lose if we downgrade to Non-Pro that we are currently using I haven’t investigated. Perhaps GI knows off hand and can elaborate.

I suspect there are others but mapping Advanced Custom Fields metadata use might be trickier or perhaps not.

According to this post https://support.advancedcustomfields.com/forums/topic/exportingimporting-field-values-between-installations/
the fields are stored in table wp_postmeta

Thanks,
Regina

–
Jody Garnett