Hi,
I'm planning to migrate Postfix and Mailman to the new "mail" VM this
Saturday afternoon (European time) .... if weather and my family
permit.
Please don't depend on reliable OSGeo EMail communication on Saturday
afternoon, I suspect all OSGeo EMail service to be out of service for a
couple of hours. List admins please be prepared for a few hiccups to
be ironed out after the transition.
Cheers,
Martin.
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I was just asked to serve as stand-in pilot for glider aero-towing this
afternoon, therefore I'll have to shift the mail VM migration a couple
of hours, will attempt to start the migration at approx. 21:00 UTC
Cheers,
Martin.
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Postfix shutdown on "osgeo1" in approx. 5 minutes,
Martin.
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Pleast test. List admins please test wether your admin interfaces are
working as expected.
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As a test to check wether they're still used, I'm planning to disable
Courier IMAP, SASL, BIND and the old LDAP server on "osgeo1".
Objections ?
Cheers,
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Martin wrote:
Pleast test. List admins please test
wether your admin interfaces are working as expected.
http://lists.osgeo.org/ is working fine for me, but not https://,
so forced to enter ML admin pw over plain text, which is to be avoided.
thanks,
Hamish
Hamish wrote:
so forced to enter ML admin pw over plain text, which is to
be avoided.
(& now might be a good time to do a bulk expire of the ML admin pws too)
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 02:32:08AM -0700, Hamish wrote:
http://lists.osgeo.org/ is working fine for me, but not https://,
Ah, thanks for reminding - I knew I forgot something .... at three in
the morning 
I'll fix that later today,
Martin.
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On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:54:13PM +0200, Martin Spott wrote:
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 02:32:08AM -0700, Hamish wrote:
> http://lists.osgeo.org/ is working fine for me, but not https://,
Ah, thanks for reminding - I knew I forgot something .... at three in
the morning
I'll fix that later today,
As a interim solution I've enabled SSL using the usual dummy key and
certificate as shipped with the distro. I'll insert proper OSGeo key
and cert later.
Also I'll probably add a redirect to HTTPS for everything but the
public archives.
Cheers,
Martin.
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On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 02:32:08AM -0700, Hamish wrote:
http://lists.osgeo.org/
Oh, are we really hosting almost 200 lists on this setup !?
Not bad ....
Martin.
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On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 01:21:16PM +0200, Martin Spott wrote:
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:54:13PM +0200, Martin Spott wrote:
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 02:32:08AM -0700, Hamish wrote:
> > http://lists.osgeo.org/ is working fine for me, but not https://,
>
> Ah, thanks for reminding - I knew I forgot something .... at three in
> the morning
>
> I'll fix that later today,
As a interim solution I've enabled SSL using the usual dummy key and
certificate as shipped with the distro. I'll insert proper OSGeo key
and cert later.
Done,
Martin.
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Hi, I will now disable the Courier IMAP server on "osgeo1", please
shout if you still need it.
Cheers,
Martin.
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On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> wrote:
Hi, I will now disable the Courier IMAP server on "osgeo1", please
shout if you still need it.
Martin,
I'm not too clear on all the implications of this but various OSGeo aliases
(like info@osgeo.org) have been handled through /etc/aliases on osgeo1,
and of course the Drupal setup on osgeo1 may want to send emails for
some purposes.
Also, I'm not fond of Hamish' proposal to force expire ML admin passwords.
Did this occur? Will it?
Regards,
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Hi Frank,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 09:56:38AM -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
I'm not too clear on all the implications of this but various OSGeo aliases
(like info@osgeo.org) have been handled through /etc/aliases on osgeo1,
and of course the Drupal setup on osgeo1 may want to send emails for
some purposes.
I've migrated all OSGeo EMail aliases to the new "mail" VM, therefore
thy should not be affected by the migration. Anyhow I do understand
the need to have a functional SMTP delivery on "osgeo1" for the
remaining local applications.
It would be preferred for Drupal et alias to make a proper SMTP connect
to "mail.osgeo.org", but I'll try to create a delivery-only setup for
Postfix as an interim fallback.
Also, I'm not fond of Hamish' proposal to force expire ML admin passwords.
Did this occur? Will it?
I didn't plan to force-expire ML admin passwords without negotiation,
anyhow changing passwords every now and then doesn't sound too bad -
especially if they've been entered over unencrypted lines.
Note that I didn't plan to play the role of the future OSGeo Mailman
maintainer, I just did the migration and I'll try to help tackling the
remaining issues as best as I can.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Just an observation and a few questions.
I used to go to addresses like:
http://www.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/announce
which gives an error.
Now I have to go to:
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/announce
which works fine (and previously worked maybe? I don't know).
Should both urls work? Is one more correct? Which is best to publish
to advertise signing up for a list?
Looks like the mailing lists are working great (I'm getting emails on
these lists, nabble archives are getting updated).
Eli
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> wrote:
Hi Frank,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 09:56:38AM -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
I'm not too clear on all the implications of this but various OSGeo aliases
(like info@osgeo.org) have been handled through /etc/aliases on osgeo1,
and of course the Drupal setup on osgeo1 may want to send emails for
some purposes.
I've migrated all OSGeo EMail aliases to the new "mail" VM, therefore
thy should not be affected by the migration. Anyhow I do understand
the need to have a functional SMTP delivery on "osgeo1" for the
remaining local applications.
It would be preferred for Drupal et alias to make a proper SMTP connect
to "mail.osgeo.org", but I'll try to create a delivery-only setup for
Postfix as an interim fallback.
Also, I'm not fond of Hamish' proposal to force expire ML admin passwords.
Did this occur? Will it?
I didn't plan to force-expire ML admin passwords without negotiation,
anyhow changing passwords every now and then doesn't sound too bad -
especially if they've been entered over unencrypted lines.
Note that I didn't plan to play the role of the future OSGeo Mailman
maintainer, I just did the migration and I'll try to help tackling the
remaining issues as best as I can.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Sac@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/sac
Eli,
I've always adversed the lists.osgeo.org urls, and didn't realize the
other actually worked though it isn't too surprising since lists was
previously served from the same machine as www.osgeo.org. I think we
should only publish lists.osgeo.org addresses for list stuff and not
try to provide backward compatability to the old www.osgeo.org urls.
Best regards,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:
Just an observation and a few questions.
I used to go to addresses like:
http://www.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/announce
which gives an error.
Now I have to go to:
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/announce
which works fine (and previously worked maybe? I don't know).
Should both urls work? Is one more correct? Which is best to publish
to advertise signing up for a list?
Looks like the mailing lists are working great (I'm getting emails on
these lists, nabble archives are getting updated).
Eli
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> wrote:
Hi Frank,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 09:56:38AM -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
I'm not too clear on all the implications of this but various OSGeo aliases
(like info@osgeo.org) have been handled through /etc/aliases on osgeo1,
and of course the Drupal setup on osgeo1 may want to send emails for
some purposes.
I've migrated all OSGeo EMail aliases to the new "mail" VM, therefore
thy should not be affected by the migration. Anyhow I do understand
the need to have a functional SMTP delivery on "osgeo1" for the
remaining local applications.
It would be preferred for Drupal et alias to make a proper SMTP connect
to "mail.osgeo.org", but I'll try to create a delivery-only setup for
Postfix as an interim fallback.
Also, I'm not fond of Hamish' proposal to force expire ML admin passwords.
Did this occur? Will it?
I didn't plan to force-expire ML admin passwords without negotiation,
anyhow changing passwords every now and then doesn't sound too bad -
especially if they've been entered over unencrypted lines.
Note that I didn't plan to play the role of the future OSGeo Mailman
maintainer, I just did the migration and I'll try to help tackling the
remaining issues as best as I can.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Sac mailing list
Sac@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/sac
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Sac mailing list
Sac@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/sac
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On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 02:51:05PM -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
[...] I think we
should only publish lists.osgeo.org addresses for list stuff
.... as shown in the footer of this EMail, for example.
Did any of the OSGeo Mailman lists announce "http://www…" as the
list overview page ?
Cheers,
Martin.
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On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 02:51:05PM -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
[...] I think we
should only publish lists.osgeo.org addresses for list stuff
.... as shown in the footer of this EMail, for example.
Did any of the OSGeo Mailman lists announce "http://www…" as the
list overview page ?
No I don't think so.
Eli
Cheers,
Martin.
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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 02:51:05PM -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
[...] I think we
should only publish lists.osgeo.org addresses for list stuff
.... as shown in the footer of this EMail, for example.
Did any of the OSGeo Mailman lists announce "http://www…" as the
list overview page ?
No I don't think so.
Let's avoid the http://www. Maybe just make it a Apache redirect to
lists.osgeo...?
Markus
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 07:07:55PM +0200, Martin Spott wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 09:56:38AM -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
> I'm not too clear on all the implications of this but various OSGeo aliases
> (like info@osgeo.org) have been handled through /etc/aliases on osgeo1,
> and of course the Drupal setup on osgeo1 may want to send emails for
> some purposes.
I've migrated all OSGeo EMail aliases to the new "mail" VM, therefore
thy should not be affected by the migration. Anyhow I do understand
the need to have a functional SMTP delivery on "osgeo1" for the
remaining local applications.
Accomnplished,
Martin.
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