[SAC] Moving Wiki?

Just wanted to ask if anyone thought about moving the wiki? Currently it is generously hosted by a company in Germany. For the most part it has running really really well, but certain administrative privileges and shell access are not possible for us. Even posting a new logo took a long time because we couldn't do it ourselves. The donors are generous but busy :slight_smile:

I think Arnulf was also suggesting we move, and it makes sense to me, but I don't know the ins/outs of doing so. I just wanted to bring it up because it would be nice to get SSO for wiki as well as having it on a server OSGeo can more directly manage.

Any thoughts?

Tyler

Tyler Mitchell wrote:

Just wanted to ask if anyone thought about moving the wiki? Currently it is generously hosted by a company in Germany. For the most part it has running really really well, but certain administrative privileges and shell access are not possible for us. Even posting a new logo took a long time because we couldn't do it ourselves. The donors are generous but busy :slight_smile:

I think Arnulf was also suggesting we move, and it makes sense to me, but I don't know the ins/outs of doing so. I just wanted to bring it up because it would be nice to get SSO for wiki as well as having it on a server OSGeo can more directly manage.

Tyler,

I would like to see us eventually migrate this to a telascience server or
perhaps the peer1 server and to enable use of our central LDAP server per:

   http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LDAP_Authentication

But I'm inclined to put this off for a few months till more pressing issues
are dealt with. So far, the wiki has been our only long term stable piece
of infrastructure. :slight_smile:

Best regards,
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Tyler Mitchell wrote:

Just wanted to ask if anyone thought about moving the wiki? Currently it is generously hosted by a company in Germany. For the most part it has running really really well, but certain administrative privileges and shell access are not possible for us. Even posting a new logo took a long time because we couldn't do it ourselves. The donors are generous but busy :slight_smile:

I think Arnulf was also suggesting we move, and it makes sense to me, but I don't know the ins/outs of doing so. I just wanted to bring it up because it would be nice to get SSO for wiki as well as having it on a server OSGeo can more directly manage.

Any thoughts?

Tyler

Hi,
go for it, whenever there is a slot to do it. I did not push this to not put yet another task on SAC's list and as you said it is stable as it is.

Once there is a place where the Wikis could go there are several more waiting to be set up or migrated there. I suggested earlier that MapGuide get its own Wiki and the Mapbender Wiki could eventually move there and once we get OSGeo Deutsch formalized there is the FOSSGIS conference Wiki that wants an OSGeo home.

Best regards, Arnulf.

On 1-Mar-07, at 9:52 AM, Arnulf Christl wrote:

go for it, whenever there is a slot to do it. I did not push this to not put yet another task on SAC's list and as you said it is stable as it is.

Arnulf, would you be able to talk to the current hosts and see if they are doing backups? It'd be nice to get copy of at least one just for security sake.

Arnulf Christl wrote:

Once there is a place where the Wikis could go there are several more waiting to be set up or migrated there. I suggested earlier that MapGuide get its own Wiki

Arnulf,

I think MapGuide is using the Trac wiki as it's wiki. GDAL will do likewise.
I prefer mediawiki, but the Trac wiki integration with tickets, svn,
and milestonesis a big win.

> and the Mapbender Wiki could eventually move

there and once we get OSGeo Deutsch formalized there is the FOSSGIS conference Wiki that wants an OSGeo home.

That should be no problem (eventually).

Best regards,
--
---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam@pobox.com
light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam
and watch the world go round - Rush | President OSGeo, http://osgeo.org

Frank wrote:

I think MapGuide is using the Trac wiki as it's wiki.

Yes we are. The migration is a bit painful (especially tables) and I
think we're going to leave the existing minutes in place, but eventually
most of the MapGuide Wiki stuff will be in Trac.

Jason

Yes we are migrating the MapGuide content from the osgeo wiki to our Trac wiki. Once everything we want is moved (probably a couple of weeks) I'll go back and clean up / remove the content from the OSGeo wiki.

Bob

Frank Warmerdam wrote:

Arnulf Christl wrote:

Once there is a place where the Wikis could go there are several more waiting to be set up or migrated there. I suggested earlier that MapGuide get its own Wiki

Arnulf,

I think MapGuide is using the Trac wiki as it's wiki. GDAL will do likewise.
I prefer mediawiki, but the Trac wiki integration with tickets, svn,
and milestonesis a big win.

> and the Mapbender Wiki could eventually move

there and once we get OSGeo Deutsch formalized there is the FOSSGIS conference Wiki that wants an OSGeo home.

That should be no problem (eventually).

Best regards,

Tyler Mitchell wrote:

On 1-Mar-07, at 9:52 AM, Arnulf Christl wrote:

go for it, whenever there is a slot to do it. I did not push this to not put yet another task on SAC's list and as you said it is stable as it is.

Arnulf, would you be able to talk to the current hosts and see if they are doing backups? It'd be nice to get copy of at least one just for security sake.

Hi Tyler,
yes the Wikis are backed up on a daily basis. We could "implement" a way to get this backup (basically an SQL dump) uploaded to some OSGeo place. But once we have done that that it just needs an instance of MediaWiki on one of the SAC servers to simply migrate right away. Without that MediaWiki server the backup doe not help a lot. And the DNS entry needs to be changed but from what I gather this is not a big deal anymore. Just let me know when we can do that, we fix a date and migrate the whole thing.

Best regards, Arnulf.

Back to the issue of wiki management. Spamming is increasing and I think we need to get lower level access to the system by moving it to our infrastructure. In the meantime, can we ask Terrestris to require email address confirmation during registration before being allowed to post?

Tyler

On Wed, April 11, 2007 22:18, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:

Back to the issue of wiki management. Spamming is increasing and I
think we need to get lower level access to the system by moving it to
our infrastructure. In the meantime, can we ask Terrestris to
require email address confirmation during registration before being
allowed to post?

Tyler

Hi Tyler,
I have been offline for a few days, sorry to be late reacting. We have new
email addresses as of 2007 and I am not sure whether Benjamin still reads
any ccgis mails as they were heavily spammed. His address now is
benjamin.thelen at you-know-who.com

Till,
sorry to bother yet again, could you please enable email verification for
the OSGeo wiki? This is pressing as the Wiki has been "found" by a series
of ugly bots causing a lot of manual reverting to be done.

SAC,
we are only waiting for you to say that you are ready and have a machine
up and running. It does not take much as it is now, just install MySQL,
PHP and MediaWiki. The rest is just one MySQL dump file, and some config
file muggling...
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings

If this will take you longer than expected (or Tyler gets really fed up
soon) we can sponsor one year's worth of a root server at our ISP and let
SAC get full access on that machine, backup and so on are taken care of by
us.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

--
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http://www.wheregroup.com

On Mon, April 16, 2007 10:25, Till Adams wrote:

Arnulf,

there is s.th. like "$wgEmailConfirmationToEdit=false"

I set this to true and hope thats the correct screw
(never use more than one :wink: ...

Please try, Till

Till,
tested and working, thanks a lot. Hopefully this will relieve us from some
reverting.

SAC,
the option to move to an OSGeo server is still open.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

On Wed, April 11, 2007 22:18, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:

Back to the issue of wiki management. Spamming is increasing and I
think we need to get lower level access to the system by moving it to
our infrastructure. In the meantime, can we ask Terrestris to
require email address confirmation during registration before being
allowed to post?

Tyler

Hi Tyler,
I have been offline for a few days, sorry to be late reacting. We have
new
email addresses as of 2007 and I am not sure whether Benjamin still reads
any ccgis mails as they were heavily spammed. His address now is
benjamin.thelen at you-know-who.com

Till,
sorry to bother yet again, could you please enable email verification for
the OSGeo wiki? This is pressing as the Wiki has been "found" by a series
of ugly bots causing a lot of manual reverting to be done.

SAC,
we are only waiting for you to say that you are ready and have a machine
up and running. It does not take much as it is now, just install MySQL,
PHP and MediaWiki. The rest is just one MySQL dump file, and some config
file muggling...
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings

If this will take you longer than expected (or Tyler gets really fed up
soon) we can sponsor one year's worth of a root server at our ISP and let
SAC get full access on that machine, backup and so on are taken care of
by
us.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

--
*****************************************
     SensorGIS 'Geodaten in Echtzeit'
        http://www.sensorgis.de
         http://www.terrestris.de
*****************************************

------------------------------------------

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terrestris, H. Paulsen& T. Adams GbR
Siemensstr. 8 * 53121 Bonn
Tel.: 0228 962 899 52 * Fax.: 0228 962 899 57
info@terrestris.de * http://www.terrestris.de

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Thanks Till, it should really help.

Tyler

On 4/16/07, Arnulf Christl (WhereGroup) <arnulf.christl@wheregroup.com> wrote:

On Mon, April 16, 2007 10:25, Till Adams wrote:
> Arnulf,
>
> there is s.th. like "$wgEmailConfirmationToEdit=false"
>
> I set this to true and hope thats the correct screw
> (never use more than one :wink: ...
>
> Please try, Till

Till,
tested and working, thanks a lot. Hopefully this will relieve us from some
reverting.

SAC,
the option to move to an OSGeo server is still open.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

>>On Wed, April 11, 2007 22:18, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
>>
>>>Back to the issue of wiki management. Spamming is increasing and I
>>>think we need to get lower level access to the system by moving it to
>>>our infrastructure. In the meantime, can we ask Terrestris to
>>>require email address confirmation during registration before being
>>>allowed to post?
>>>
>>>Tyler
>>>
>>
>>Hi Tyler,
>>I have been offline for a few days, sorry to be late reacting. We have
>> new
>>email addresses as of 2007 and I am not sure whether Benjamin still reads
>>any ccgis mails as they were heavily spammed. His address now is
>>benjamin.thelen at you-know-who.com
>>
>>Till,
>>sorry to bother yet again, could you please enable email verification for
>>the OSGeo wiki? This is pressing as the Wiki has been "found" by a series
>>of ugly bots causing a lot of manual reverting to be done.
>>
>>SAC,
>>we are only waiting for you to say that you are ready and have a machine
>>up and running. It does not take much as it is now, just install MySQL,
>>PHP and MediaWiki. The rest is just one MySQL dump file, and some config
>>file muggling...
>>http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings
>>
>>If this will take you longer than expected (or Tyler gets really fed up
>>soon) we can sponsor one year's worth of a root server at our ISP and let
>>SAC get full access on that machine, backup and so on are taken care of
>> by
>>us.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Arnulf.
>>
>
> --
> *****************************************
> SensorGIS 'Geodaten in Echtzeit'
> http://www.sensorgis.de
> http://www.terrestris.de
> *****************************************
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Dipl. Geogr. Till Adams
> terrestris, H. Paulsen& T. Adams GbR
> Siemensstr. 8 * 53121 Bonn
> Tel.: 0228 962 899 52 * Fax.: 0228 962 899 57
> info@terrestris.de * http://www.terrestris.de
>

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With best regards,
Arnulf Christl
-------------------------
http://www.wheregroup.com
http://www.osgeo.org
http://www.mapbender.org
-------------------------
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-------------------------
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Siemensstra├če 8
53121 Bonn
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This is never gonna end, man. The confirmation mail is sent by
admin@ccgis.de, an address that ceased to exit at the beginning of this
year.

Three things to resolve this one, which ever comes first please let us know:

Ben,
please re-enable this dead account and pls. forward it to Tyler and me, so
that people get an answer when they have aquestion (hopefully it is not an
old spam account)

Till,
please change that adress to point to info@osgeo.org (or whatever Tyler
wants it to point at).

SAC,
pls. give us a server so we get over this.

Pleading ended.

Arnulf.

On Tue, April 17, 2007 05:05, Tyler Mitchell wrote:

Thanks Till, it should really help.

Tyler

On 4/16/07, Arnulf Christl (WhereGroup) <arnulf.christl@wheregroup.com>
wrote:

On Mon, April 16, 2007 10:25, Till Adams wrote:
> Arnulf,
>
> there is s.th. like "$wgEmailConfirmationToEdit=false"
>
> I set this to true and hope thats the correct screw
> (never use more than one :wink: ...
>
> Please try, Till

Till,
tested and working, thanks a lot. Hopefully this will relieve us from
some
reverting.

SAC,
the option to move to an OSGeo server is still open.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

>>On Wed, April 11, 2007 22:18, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Back to the issue of wiki management. Spamming is increasing and I
>>>think we need to get lower level access to the system by moving it to
>>>our infrastructure. In the meantime, can we ask Terrestris to
>>>require email address confirmation during registration before being
>>>allowed to post?
>>>
>>>Tyler
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Hi Tyler,
>>I have been offline for a few days, sorry to be late reacting. We have
>> new
>>email addresses as of 2007 and I am not sure whether Benjamin still
reads
>>any ccgis mails as they were heavily spammed. His address now is
>>benjamin.thelen at you-know-who.com
>>
>>Till,
>>sorry to bother yet again, could you please enable email verification
for
>>the OSGeo wiki? This is pressing as the Wiki has been "found" by a
series
>>of ugly bots causing a lot of manual reverting to be done.
>>
>>SAC,
>>we are only waiting for you to say that you are ready and have a
machine
>>up and running. It does not take much as it is now, just install
MySQL,
>>PHP and MediaWiki. The rest is just one MySQL dump file, and some
config
>>file muggling...
>>http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings
>>
>>If this will take you longer than expected (or Tyler gets really fed
up
>>soon) we can sponsor one year's worth of a root server at our ISP and
let
>>SAC get full access on that machine, backup and so on are taken care
of
>> by
>>us.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Arnulf.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *****************************************
> SensorGIS 'Geodaten in Echtzeit'
> http://www.sensorgis.de
> http://www.terrestris.de
> *****************************************
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Dipl. Geogr. Till Adams
> terrestris, H. Paulsen& T. Adams GbR
> Siemensstr. 8 * 53121 Bonn
> Tel.: 0228 962 899 52 * Fax.: 0228 962 899 57
> info@terrestris.de * http://www.terrestris.de
>

--
With best regards,
Arnulf Christl
-------------------------
http://www.wheregroup.com
http://www.osgeo.org
http://www.mapbender.org
-------------------------
+49 228 9090 38 0
-------------------------
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Siemensstra├če 8
53121 Bonn
GERMANY

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Arnulf Christl
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http://www.osgeo.org
http://www.mapbender.org
-------------------------
+49 228 9090 38 0
-------------------------
WhereGroup GmbH & Co.KG
Siemensstra├če 8
53121 Bonn
GERMANY

On Tue, April 17, 2007 08:36, Till Adams wrote:

Arnulf,

please try :wink:

Till

Hi Till,
thank you a lot, works fine. So we resolved this one too. Sorry to bother.

SAC,
things should be as good as they can now. I have added a ticket with
respect to migrating the OSGeo Wiki.

http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/103

Best regards,
Arnulf.

This is never gonna end, man. The confirmation mail is sent by
admin@ccgis.de, an address that ceased to exit at the beginning of this
year.

Three things to resolve this one, which ever comes first please let us
know:

Ben,
please re-enable this dead account and pls. forward it to Tyler and me,
so
that people get an answer when they have aquestion (hopefully it is not
an
old spam account)

Till,
please change that adress to point to info@osgeo.org (or whatever Tyler
wants it to point at).

SAC,
pls. give us a server so we get over this.

Pleading ended.

Arnulf.

On Tue, April 17, 2007 05:05, Tyler Mitchell wrote:

Thanks Till, it should really help.

Tyler

On 4/16/07, Arnulf Christl (WhereGroup) <arnulf.christl@wheregroup.com>
wrote:

On Mon, April 16, 2007 10:25, Till Adams wrote:

Arnulf,

there is s.th. like "$wgEmailConfirmationToEdit=false"

I set this to true and hope thats the correct screw
(never use more than one :wink: ...

Please try, Till

Till,
tested and working, thanks a lot. Hopefully this will relieve us from
some
reverting.

SAC,
the option to move to an OSGeo server is still open.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

On Wed, April 11, 2007 22:18, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:

Back to the issue of wiki management. Spamming is increasing and I
think we need to get lower level access to the system by moving it
to
our infrastructure. In the meantime, can we ask Terrestris to
require email address confirmation during registration before being
allowed to post?

Tyler

Hi Tyler,
I have been offline for a few days, sorry to be late reacting. We
have
new
email addresses as of 2007 and I am not sure whether Benjamin still

reads

any ccgis mails as they were heavily spammed. His address now is
benjamin.thelen at you-know-who.com

Till,
sorry to bother yet again, could you please enable email verification

for

the OSGeo wiki? This is pressing as the Wiki has been "found" by a

series

of ugly bots causing a lot of manual reverting to be done.

SAC,
we are only waiting for you to say that you are ready and have a

machine

up and running. It does not take much as it is now, just install

MySQL,

PHP and MediaWiki. The rest is just one MySQL dump file, and some

config

file muggling...
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings

If this will take you longer than expected (or Tyler gets really fed

up

soon) we can sponsor one year's worth of a root server at our ISP and

let

SAC get full access on that machine, backup and so on are taken care

of

by
us.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

--
*****************************************
    SensorGIS 'Geodaten in Echtzeit'
       http://www.sensorgis.de
        http://www.terrestris.de
*****************************************

------------------------------------------

Dipl. Geogr. Till Adams
terrestris, H. Paulsen& T. Adams GbR
Siemensstr. 8 * 53121 Bonn
Tel.: 0228 962 899 52 * Fax.: 0228 962 899 57
info@terrestris.de * http://www.terrestris.de

--
With best regards,
Arnulf Christl
-------------------------
http://www.wheregroup.com
http://www.osgeo.org
http://www.mapbender.org
-------------------------
+49 228 9090 38 0
-------------------------
WhereGroup GmbH & Co.KG
Siemensstra├če 8
53121 Bonn
GERMANY

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        http://www.sensorgis.de
         http://www.terrestris.de
*****************************************

------------------------------------------

Dipl. Geogr. Till Adams
terrestris, H. Paulsen& T. Adams GbR
Siemensstr. 8 * 53121 Bonn
Tel.: 0228 962 899 52 * Fax.: 0228 962 899 57
info@terrestris.de * http://www.terrestris.de

--
With best regards,
Arnulf Christl
-------------------------
http://www.wheregroup.com
http://www.osgeo.org
http://www.mapbender.org
-------------------------
+49 228 9090 38 0
-------------------------
WhereGroup GmbH & Co.KG
Siemensstra├če 8
53121 Bonn
GERMANY