1. We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install and
migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
allocated from the Board for this)
2. We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to do a
multi-site install.
3. Simply installing is not the hard part, it's planning for the db, db
backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some thought.
OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that's not an option. So it's seems like
OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don't know how to
handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress docker
is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need, media
is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
sure a Mysql db is there already).
Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail,
Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost $60-$300/yr
I think 60-300/year is ambitious/unrealistic. To host sites like this
properly, it is usually around $100/month ... but would still require
someone on our side to set things up.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
So why wouldn't we host with one of those $60-$300 a year options? Assume we
still need effort to set up and integrate etc...
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:11 PM Alex M <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
The new website overhaul needs a Wordpress instance by the end of August.
1. We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install and
migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
allocated from the Board for this)
2. We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to do a
multi-site install.
3. Simply installing is not the hard part, it's planning for the db, db
backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some thought.
OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that's not an option. So it's seems like
OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don't know how to
handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress docker
is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need, media
is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
sure a Mysql db is there already).
Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail,
Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost $60-$300/yr
The current OSGeo site uses about 20 GB/month, 20% of a single cpu, and
3-4GB of ram. While I expect the new one to be delivering more data,
most of the options I looked at offered 1TB, or no data cap at all on
the cheapest plans backed by SSD drives, and much newer cpus.
Of course if we self host most of that is not an issue. The biggest
concern is keeping it updated and backed up. Some of those features are
part of hosting plans.
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/16/2017 06:36 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
I think 60-300/year is ambitious/unrealistic. To host sites like this
properly, it is usually around $100/month ... but would still require
someone on our side to set things up.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
So why wouldn't we host with one of those $60-$300 a year options? Assume we
still need effort to set up and integrate etc...
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:11 PM Alex M <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
The new website overhaul needs a Wordpress instance by the end of August.
1. We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install and
migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
allocated from the Board for this)
2. We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to do a
multi-site install.
3. Simply installing is not the hard part, it's planning for the db, db
backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some thought.
OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that's not an option. So it's seems like
OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don't know how to
handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress docker
is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need, media
is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
sure a Mysql db is there already).
Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail,
Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost $60-$300/yr
Have you heard back from the vendor on the Wordpress requirements?
Particularly the plugin list? Any idea on the db type/size, amount of
media currently in the development site?
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/16/2017 11:47 AM, Alex M wrote:
The current OSGeo site uses about 20 GB/month, 20% of a single cpu, and
3-4GB of ram. While I expect the new one to be delivering more data,
most of the options I looked at offered 1TB, or no data cap at all on
the cheapest plans backed by SSD drives, and much newer cpus.
Of course if we self host most of that is not an issue. The biggest
concern is keeping it updated and backed up. Some of those features are
part of hosting plans.
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/16/2017 06:36 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
I think 60-300/year is ambitious/unrealistic. To host sites like this
properly, it is usually around $100/month ... but would still require
someone on our side to set things up.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
So why wouldn't we host with one of those $60-$300 a year options? Assume we
still need effort to set up and integrate etc...
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:11 PM Alex M <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
The new website overhaul needs a Wordpress instance by the end of August.
1. We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install and
migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
allocated from the Board for this)
2. We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to do a
multi-site install.
3. Simply installing is not the hard part, it's planning for the db, db
backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some thought.
OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that's not an option. So it's seems like
OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don't know how to
handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress docker
is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need, media
is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
sure a Mysql db is there already).
Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail,
Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost $60-$300/yr
Have you heard back from the vendor on the Wordpress requirements?
Particularly the plugin list? Any idea on the db type/size, amount of
media currently in the development site?
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/16/2017 11:47 AM, Alex M wrote:
The current OSGeo site uses about 20 GB/month, 20% of a single cpu, and
3-4GB of ram. While I expect the new one to be delivering more data,
most of the options I looked at offered 1TB, or no data cap at all on
the cheapest plans backed by SSD drives, and much newer cpus.
Of course if we self host most of that is not an issue. The biggest
concern is keeping it updated and backed up. Some of those features are
part of hosting plans.
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/16/2017 06:36 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
I think 60-300/year is ambitious/unrealistic. To host sites like this
properly, it is usually around $100/month … but would still require
someone on our side to set things up.
We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install and
migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
allocated from the Board for this)
We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to do a
multi-site install.
Simply installing is not the hard part, it’s planning for the db, db
backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some thought.
OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that’s not an option. So it’s seems like
OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don’t know how to
handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress docker
is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need, media
is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
sure a Mysql db is there already).
Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail, Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost $60-$300/yr
Great, then the todo list is:
1. Get the Theme
2. Decide on migration method:
2a. Use the wordpress migrate feature
2b. Manually copy an export from wordpress
2c. Manually copy the material and db (least preferred).
Can you ask them to provide the Theme, and a site export for method 2b.
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/25/2017 08:19 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
Yes, no required plugins, db and media are currently tiny. They will be
back next week.
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 08:07 Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com>
wrote:
Jeff,
Have you heard back from the vendor on the Wordpress requirements?
Particularly the plugin list? Any idea on the db type/size, amount of
media currently in the development site?
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/16/2017 11:47 AM, Alex M wrote:
The current OSGeo site uses about 20 GB/month, 20% of a single cpu, and
3-4GB of ram. While I expect the new one to be delivering more data,
most of the options I looked at offered 1TB, or no data cap at all on
the cheapest plans backed by SSD drives, and much newer cpus.
Of course if we self host most of that is not an issue. The biggest
concern is keeping it updated and backed up. Some of those features are
part of hosting plans.
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/16/2017 06:36 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
I think 60-300/year is ambitious/unrealistic. To host sites like this
properly, it is usually around $100/month ... but would still require
someone on our side to set things up.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>
wrote:
So why wouldn't we host with one of those $60-$300 a year options?
Assume we
still need effort to set up and integrate etc...
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:11 PM Alex M <tech_dev@wildintellect.com>
wrote:
The new website overhaul needs a Wordpress instance by the end of
1. We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install
and
migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
allocated from the Board for this)
2. We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to
do a
multi-site install.
3. Simply installing is not the hard part, it's planning for the db,
db
backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some
thought.
OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that's not an option. So it's seems
like
OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don't know how to
handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress
docker
is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need,
media
is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
sure a Mysql db is there already).
Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail,
Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost
Sent the theme to you Alex separately. We need to get it checked into
github, but its probably changed already since this iteration.
Ill ask them for an export next week.
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Alex M <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
Great, then the todo list is:
1. Get the Theme
2. Decide on migration method:
2a. Use the wordpress migrate feature
2b. Manually copy an export from wordpress
2c. Manually copy the material and db (least preferred).
Can you ask them to provide the Theme, and a site export for method 2b.
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/25/2017 08:19 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
Yes, no required plugins, db and media are currently tiny. They will be
back next week.
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 08:07 Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com>
wrote:
Jeff,
Have you heard back from the vendor on the Wordpress requirements?
Particularly the plugin list? Any idea on the db type/size, amount of
media currently in the development site?
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/16/2017 11:47 AM, Alex M wrote:
The current OSGeo site uses about 20 GB/month, 20% of a single cpu, and
3-4GB of ram. While I expect the new one to be delivering more data,
most of the options I looked at offered 1TB, or no data cap at all on
the cheapest plans backed by SSD drives, and much newer cpus.
Of course if we self host most of that is not an issue. The biggest
concern is keeping it updated and backed up. Some of those features are
part of hosting plans.
Thanks,
Alex
On 08/16/2017 06:36 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
I think 60-300/year is ambitious/unrealistic. To host sites like this
properly, it is usually around $100/month ... but would still require
someone on our side to set things up.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>
wrote:
So why wouldn't we host with one of those $60-$300 a year options?
Assume we
still need effort to set up and integrate etc...
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:11 PM Alex M <tech_dev@wildintellect.com>
wrote:
The new website overhaul needs a Wordpress instance by the end of
1. We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install
and
migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
allocated from the Board for this)
2. We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to
do a
multi-site install.
3. Simply installing is not the hard part, it's planning for the db,
db
backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some
thought.
OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that's not an option. So it's seems
like
OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don't know how to
handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress
docker
is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need,
media
is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
sure a Mysql db is there already).
Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail,
Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost
We are going into our meeting with the vendor on wednesday, it would be good to have an action plan from SAC for website deployment to share with them.
We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install and
migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
allocated from the Board for this)
We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to do a
multi-site install.
Simply installing is not the hard part, it’s planning for the db, db
backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some thought.
OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that’s not an option. So it’s seems like
OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don’t know how to
handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress docker
is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need, media
is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
sure a Mysql db is there already).
Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail, Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost $60-$300/yr
Jeff passed me a copy of the theme, which we will move to an osgeo repo.
Doing further research, here is the official guide to migrating a
Wordpress site including changing the url. https://codex.wordpress.org/Moving_WordPress
We'll need to decide today what url we want the development site to be on.
After that the vendor can follow the steps to create an export of the
website and database, and provide us a means to copy those outputs.
From there SAC will use those files to put up an instance. Though we
have not determined where/how/who yet.
Thanks,
Alex
On August 28, 2017 at 5:08 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon Alex:
We are going into our meeting with the vendor on wednesday, it would be
good to have an action plan from SAC for website deployment to share with
them.
--
Jody Garnett
On 15 August 2017 at 19:11, Alex M <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
> The new website overhaul needs a Wordpress instance by the end of August.
>
> The related tasks are here:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/query?status=!closed&
> milestone=Website+rebranding+2017
>
> 1. We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install and
> migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
> allocated from the Board for this)
>
> 2. We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
> Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to do a
> multi-site install.
>
> 3. Simply installing is not the hard part, it's planning for the db, db
> backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some thought.
>
> OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that's not an option. So it's seems like
> OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
>
> Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don't know how to
> handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress docker
> is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
> upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
> This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need, media
> is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
> sure a Mysql db is there already).
>
> Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail,
> Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost $60-$300/yr
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
> _______________________________________________
> Sac mailing list
> Sac@lists.osgeo.org
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/sac
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Alex M <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
Jody,
Jeff passed me a copy of the theme, which we will move to an osgeo repo.
Doing further research, here is the official guide to migrating a
Wordpress site including changing the url. https://codex.wordpress.org/Moving_WordPress
We'll need to decide today what url we want the development site to be on.
After that the vendor can follow the steps to create an export of the
website and database, and provide us a means to copy those outputs.
From there SAC will use those files to put up an instance. Though we
have not determined where/how/who yet.
Thanks,
Alex
On August 28, 2017 at 5:08 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon Alex:
We are going into our meeting with the vendor on wednesday, it would be
good to have an action plan from SAC for website deployment to share with
them.
--
Jody Garnett
On 15 August 2017 at 19:11, Alex M <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:
> The new website overhaul needs a Wordpress instance by the end of August.
>
> The related tasks are here:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/query?status=!closed&
> milestone=Website+rebranding+2017
>
> 1. We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install and
> migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
> allocated from the Board for this)
>
> 2. We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
> Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to do a
> multi-site install.
>
> 3. Simply installing is not the hard part, it's planning for the db, db
> backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some thought.
>
> OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that's not an option. So it's seems like
> OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
>
> Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don't know how to
> handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress docker
> is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
> upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
> This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need, media
> is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
> sure a Mysql db is there already).
>
> Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail,
> Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost $60-$300/yr
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
> _______________________________________________
> Sac mailing list
> Sac@lists.osgeo.org
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/sac
Wow thanks Alex, was just checking the email threads ahead of our meeting with the vendor tomorrow. If you are able to attend the meeting it would help logistics?
So far I have just been focusing on visuals and content. I am not exactly sure where we are at with content migration so it should be an exciting meeting.
If I understand you correctly you are looking at hosting on one of the existing machines, rather than look at cloud hosting or waiting for your new machine?
Jeff passed me a copy of the theme, which we will move to an osgeo repo.
Doing further research, here is the official guide to migrating a
Wordpress site including changing the url. https://codex.wordpress.org/Moving_WordPress
We’ll need to decide today what url we want the development site to be on.
After that the vendor can follow the steps to create an export of the
website and database, and provide us a means to copy those outputs.
From there SAC will use those files to put up an instance. Though we
have not determined where/how/who yet.
We are going into our meeting with the vendor on wednesday, it would be
good to have an action plan from SAC for website deployment to share with
them.
We need a volunteer familiar with Wordpress to handle the install and
migration OR we need to identify a contractor (There is $3000 USD
allocated from the Board for this)
We need to decide on the best method of deployment: since a
Production and Staging site have been requested, I think we need to do a
multi-site install.
Simply installing is not the hard part, it’s planning for the db, db
backup, Wordpress upgrade, and LDAP integration that need some thought.
OSGeo7 is still just an idea so that’s not an option. So it’s seems like
OSGeo6 is the logical place for now.
Something containerized seems like a good idea but I don’t know how to
handle the frequent Wordpress upgrades if we do that. A Wordpress docker
is available, but if I understand correctly docker is immutable, so to
upgrade you replace your docker instance with a copy of the new one.
This might work if the docker image includes the plugins we need, media
is in a docker volume, and the db is external on the main host (pretty
sure a Mysql db is there already).
Fallback options include 3rd party hosting like AWS Lightsail, Wordpress.com or Pantheon. I estimate these options would cost $60-$300/yr