[SAC] [OSGeo] #1267: FOSS4G 2014 email addresses

OSGeoTrac · December 15, 2013, 11:39pm

#1267: FOSS4G 2014 email addresses
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Reporter: EliL | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: Systems Admin | Keywords: foss4g, email
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Can we please have the following email aliases for FOSS4G?

media -at- 2014.fossg4g.org --> darrell -at- garnix.org

sponsor -at- 2014.foss4g.org --> eadam -at- co.lincoln.or.us

info -at- 2014.fossg4g.org --> darrell -at- garnix.org, matt.sayler
-at- gmail.com, mnelson -at- vtmgroup.com

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OSGeoTrac · December 15, 2013, 11:45pm

#1267: FOSS4G 2014 email addresses
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Reporter: EliL | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: Systems Admin | Keywords: foss4g, email
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Changes (by warmerdam):

* owner: warmerdam => sac@…

Comment:

Hmm, I'm not really sure how to implement email aliases for domains other
than @osgeo.org. I'm going to step back from this ticket and see if
someone else on SAC knows how and wants to own it.

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Barry_Rowlingson · December 16, 2013, 8:15am

Frank, (and sac if I'm on that mailing list...)

For Nottingham we just maintained an /etc/aliases file on our
2013.foss4g.org server, and configured it for incoming and outgoing
email using postfix or qmail or some other MTA.

As the MX record for 2014.foss4g.org is currently a github server I
don't think that's an option. Where does mail to that go? Hmmm....

So you 1) need to change the MX record for 2014.foss4g.org to a
machine that can handle mail, and 2) configure that machine to do
redirections (mail.osgeo.org?). 3) If that machine isn't in the conf
committee's control then osgeo admins will have to handle change
requests from the committee.

We had some trouble persuading some bits of the internet that the
emails from our Amazon server weren't spam, but I think that was
partly due to me not having configured the outgoing mail properly.

Apologies for not adding this to the ticket, but my osgeo credentials
are elsewhere...

Barry

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM, OSGeo <trac_osgeo@osgeo.org> wrote:

#1267: FOSS4G 2014 email addresses
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Reporter: EliL | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: Systems Admin | Keywords: foss4g, email
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Changes (by warmerdam):

* owner: warmerdam => sac@…

Comment:

Hmm, I'm not really sure how to implement email aliases for domains other
than @osgeo.org. I'm going to step back from this ticket and see if
someone else on SAC knows how and wants to own it.

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Alex_M · December 16, 2013, 8:37am

I agree, point the MX record at the mail.osgeo.org machine. That should
allow us to reuse that infrastructure for those addresses.

I don't really get how SFP records work but our DNS has them and it
should prevent the issue you mentioned with the Amazon servers (should
also help us fix sending to hotmail).

Thanks,
Alex

On 12/16/2013 12:15 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote:

Frank, (and sac if I'm on that mailing list...)

For Nottingham we just maintained an /etc/aliases file on our
2013.foss4g.org server, and configured it for incoming and outgoing
email using postfix or qmail or some other MTA.

As the MX record for 2014.foss4g.org is currently a github server I
don't think that's an option. Where does mail to that go? Hmmm....

So you 1) need to change the MX record for 2014.foss4g.org to a
machine that can handle mail, and 2) configure that machine to do
redirections (mail.osgeo.org?). 3) If that machine isn't in the conf
committee's control then osgeo admins will have to handle change
requests from the committee.

We had some trouble persuading some bits of the internet that the
emails from our Amazon server weren't spam, but I think that was
partly due to me not having configured the outgoing mail properly.

Apologies for not adding this to the ticket, but my osgeo credentials
are elsewhere...

Barry

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM, OSGeo <trac_osgeo@osgeo.org> wrote:

#1267: FOSS4G 2014 email addresses
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Reporter: EliL | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: Systems Admin | Keywords: foss4g, email
---------------------------+------------------------------------------------
Changes (by warmerdam):

* owner: warmerdam => sac@…

Comment:

Hmm, I'm not really sure how to implement email aliases for domains other
than @osgeo.org. I'm going to step back from this ticket and see if
someone else on SAC knows how and wants to own it.

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Ticket URL: <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1267#comment:2>
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Frank_Warmerdam · December 16, 2013, 4:34pm

Alex / Barry,

My concern with redirecting to mail.osgeo.org is that it I don’t understand how to differentiate between the @osgeo.org mail and the @2014.foss4g.org mail. For instance, the info@ addresses are the same.

Best regards,
Frank

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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com> wrote:

I agree, point the MX record at the mail.osgeo.org machine. That should
allow us to reuse that infrastructure for those addresses.

I don’t really get how SFP records work but our DNS has them and it
should prevent the issue you mentioned with the Amazon servers (should
also help us fix sending to hotmail).

Thanks,
Alex

On 12/16/2013 12:15 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote:

Frank, (and sac if I’m on that mailing list…)

For Nottingham we just maintained an /etc/aliases file on our
2013.foss4g.org server, and configured it for incoming and outgoing
email using postfix or qmail or some other MTA.

As the MX record for 2014.foss4g.org is currently a github server I
don’t think that’s an option. Where does mail to that go? Hmmm…

So you 1) need to change the MX record for 2014.foss4g.org to a
machine that can handle mail, and 2) configure that machine to do
redirections (mail.osgeo.org?). 3) If that machine isn’t in the conf
committee’s control then osgeo admins will have to handle change
requests from the committee.

We had some trouble persuading some bits of the internet that the
emails from our Amazon server weren’t spam, but I think that was
partly due to me not having configured the outgoing mail properly.

Apologies for not adding this to the ticket, but my osgeo credentials
are elsewhere…

Barry

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM, OSGeo <trac_osgeo@osgeo.org> wrote:

#1267: FOSS4G 2014 email addresses
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Reporter: EliL | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: Systems Admin | Keywords: foss4g, email
---------------------------±-----------------------------------------------
Changes (by warmerdam):

owner: warmerdam => sac@…

Comment:

Hmm, I’m not really sure how to implement email aliases for domains other
than @osgeo.org. I’m going to step back from this ticket and see if
someone else on SAC knows how and wants to own it.

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Barry_Rowlingson · December 16, 2013, 4:48pm

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam@pobox.com> wrote:

Alex / Barry,

My concern with redirecting to mail.osgeo.org is that it I don't understand
how to differentiate between the @osgeo.org mail and the @2014.foss4g.org
mail. For instance, the info@ addresses are the same.

Well, the destination host might be physically the same but the MTA
that accepts the mail can look at the To: field and figure out how to
deliver the messages differently:

http://www.akadia.com/services/postfix_separate_mailboxes.html

- seems to do it for a certain class of problems using postfix. Be
glad you aren't writing sendmail.cf files.

Finding a dedicated mail host to accept mail for 2014.foss4g.org
would be simpler.

Barry

OSGeoTrac · December 16, 2013, 9:14pm

#1267: FOSS4G 2014 email addresses
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Reporter: EliL | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: Systems Admin | Keywords: foss4g, email
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Comment(by EliL):

(conversation on email list too,
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2013-December/004794.html)

We may be better off with the osgeo.org domain. I'd like to change this
request to the osgeo.org domain as follows:

foss4g2014-media --> darrell -at- garnix.org

foss4g2014-sponsor --> eadam -at- co.lincoln.or.us

foss4g2014-info --> darrell -at- garnix.org, matt.sayler -at- gmail.com,
mnelson -at- vtmgroup.com

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