[SAC] [OSGeo] #1369: Register osgeo.org.ua

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#1369: Register osgeo.org.ua
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We in the process of establishment of the ICA-OSGeo Lab in Taras
Shevchenko National University of Kyiv (Ukraine). We would like to ask the
following to OSGeo/SAC:

  1. Register the osgeo.org.ua domain that will be used for lab site and
all other activities related to OSGeo and its projects.

See also this email in SAC list
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2014-July/005180.html

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Comment(by alexbruy):

Just to make things clear. We can register domain by ourselves, but don't
know is this allowed and can't find any guidance on this topic.

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Comment(by wildintellect):

I don't think there is an official policy. Though generally I think your
approach of asking is correct.

I have reservations, only that org.ua is unlikely to be an available
domain? At least in my understanding of the DNS system. Looking at
http://org.ua (Via google translate) it does appear to be a valid request
to register a subdomain under that.

We can easily configure ua.osgeo.org or ukraine.osgeo.org with no added
cost. If you want to register a new domain then osgeo.ua seems the likely
candidate. If you want osgeo.org.ua I think that might be handled by your
chapter as it appears that one must register via org.ua website or another
Ukraine based registrar. Since no on SAC speaks Ukrainian it might be
technically best for you to handle it.

Now that I read the original request I do have another objection,
assigning the either osgeo.ua or osgeo.org.ua to a single lab seems out of
line unless there are plans to share it with other labs that may join
later or local chapters that may form out of it. Is this request for a
single lab?

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Comment(by alexbruy):

Replying to [comment:2 wildintellect]:
> I have reservations, only that org.ua is unlikely to be an available
domain? At least in my understanding of the DNS system. Looking at
http://org.ua (Via google translate) it does appear to be a valid request
to register a subdomain under that.

Maybe I was unclear. There are no problems with registering subdomain in
org.ua zone, so final domain will be osgeo.org.ua not org.ua.

> We can easily configure ua.osgeo.org or ukraine.osgeo.org with no added
cost. If you want to register a new domain then osgeo.ua seems the likely
candidate. If you want osgeo.org.ua I think that might be handled by your
chapter as it appears that one must register via org.ua website or another
Ukraine based registrar. Since no on SAC speaks Ukrainian it might be
technically best for you to handle it.

Regarding osgeo.ua domain. Under current
[https://hostmaster.ua/policy/Policy_UA_en-w2.htm .UA domain Policy],
domain names like name.ua are delegated only to proper owners of
trademarks.

Unfortunately there is no local chapter here in Ukraine.

> Now that I read the original request I do have another objection,
assigning the either osgeo.ua or osgeo.org.ua to a single lab seems out of
line unless there are plans to share it with other labs that may join
later or local chapters that may form out of it. Is this request for a
single lab?

We planned to use this domain for all activities around OSGeo, not only
for lab. Here is how we planned to use it: osgeo.org.ua — for local
chapter (in future), lab.osgeo.org.ua — for lab, maybe other subdomains
for other activities.

Unfortunately we have very limited resources now and can't establish local
chapter, so seems it is better for us to register another domain
exclusively for lab, e.g. osgeo-lab.org.ua. Any objections?

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Comment(by wildintellect):

As long as you plan to share with any other OSGeo groups in Ukraine later
go ahead and setup osgeo.org.ua

Subdomains like lab.osgeo.org.ua shouldn't cost you anymore once you have
the root domain. I'm happy to endorse this idea. Let us know if you need
anything else.

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Comment (by TemptorSent):

osgeo.org.ua appears to be registered, but is parked on the registrars
page with no osgeo content.

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