[SAC] [OSGeo] #2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from maptools.org

#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: sac@…
     Type: task | Status: new
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maptools.org hosts a number of mailing lists that are OSGeo-related. The
issue is that maptools.org is more than an aging server using an outdated
Linux distribution. Its SMTP port has being blocked by the ISP due
apparently to spam circulating (although I didn't see any spam circulating
on the lists I'm subscribed to), so the mailing lists currently are unable
to deliver emails to the subscribers since a couple of days, which is
annoying. I would want those mailing lists (using mailman) to be migrated
away from maptools.org to lists.osgeo.org. Ideally with their message
archives and subscriber lists. I have access to maptools.org to do any
needed backup for the migration (the backup itself shouldn't be made
public since I see mailman store subscriber password unencrypted), with
some guidance since I'm not much knowledgable about mailman.

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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: sac@…
     Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
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Comment (by neteler):

Note sure how relevant but here some notes from the migration of the GRASS
GIS mailman lists off our server in Italy to OSGeo back in 2006. It was
done by FrankW with me lurking in IRC:

Migrate ML to other server:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Mailing_Lists#Migrate

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:1&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: sac@…
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Comment (by rouault):

Thanks Markus. I've now got the result of "tar cvzf out.tar.gz
/var/lib/mailman/lists" from the maptools.org server. So I guess I need
someone from SAC to hand it over. The mailman version on maptools.org is
2.1.9

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:2&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: sac@…
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Comment (by neteler):

It should not be an issue to migrate subscribers and archives, we have
done that in the past with many lists. Happy to support but I'm traveling
till tomorrow.

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:3&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: sac@…
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Comment (by rouault):

Gentle ping to check if someone from SAC would be willing to help for the
migration of those lists

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:4&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: jsanz
     Type: task | Status: new
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Mailing Lists | Resolution:
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Changes (by wildintellect):

* priority: normal => major
* owner: sac@… => jsanz
* component: Systems Admin => Mailing Lists

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:5&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: jsanz
     Type: task | Status: new
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Mailing Lists | Resolution:
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Comment (by jsanz):

ey @rouault, please let me know where I can get the archives and
subscriber lists and I'll recreate them at our mailman.

To generate users lists (normal delivery and digest mode) you have
instructions at the "Renaming Lists" section.

You can contact me privately at jsanz@osgeo.org.

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:6&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: jsanz
     Type: task | Status: new
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Mailing Lists | Resolution:
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Comment (by rouault):

Thanks a lot jsanz@ . Things to work fine. There's just one "detail"

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/tiff/ says there's no archive. Would
there be a way of removing this page, similarly to the old maptools server
where http://lists.maptools.org/pipermail/ doesn't show a tiff directory
at all.

And related, https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/tiff points to this
dummy archive ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit
the Tiff Archives"). So if we remove
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/tiff/, it would be good to remove this
link as well.

Basically, I'd want to replicate the settings from the old maptools server
where http://lists.maptools.org/mailman/listinfo/tiff managed to make the
"Searchable archive" (you have to scroll down a bit since I added a lot of
new lines to show this is a legacy link) point to
https://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/tml.html

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:7&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: jsanz
     Type: task | Status: new
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Mailing Lists | Resolution:
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Comment (by rouault):

Regarding customization of the link to the awaresystems.be hosted
archives, Joris Van Damme just indicated to me : "I seem to remember Frank
had some difficulty doing this, too, but then it turned out to be obvious.
I seem to remember it was something along the lines of editing the
actually generated page rather then fiddling with generation options"

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:8&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: jsanz
     Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Mailing Lists | Resolution: fixed
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Changes (by jsanz):

* status: new => closed
* resolution: => fixed

Comment:

@ruoult you were perfectly on the track, I've just edited
`/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/tiff/index.html` to redirect to the
correct address so now if you visit http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/tiff/
the browser redirects to the awaresystems page.

Going to close the issue but please reopen if there's further work we can
do here.

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:9&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: jsanz
     Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Mailing Lists | Resolution: fixed
Keywords: |
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Comment (by rouault):

I got a comment from a subscriber that messages he receives from the new
PROJ mailing list are prefixed with [SPAM] whereas it was fine on the
maptools list. Looks like some mail server wouldn't like emails sent by
osgeo servers. Any idea ?

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:10&gt;
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#2218: Migration of mailing lists for PROJ, tiff, libgeotiff, shapelib from
maptools.org
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Reporter: rouault | Owner: jsanz
     Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Mailing Lists | Resolution: fixed
Keywords: |
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Comment (by Jeff McKenna):

This happens all the time with all lists (not just OSGeo lists) for me.
Please inform the user to 'whitelist' the mailing list address, through
their email provider (I do this constantly for mailing lists through my
email provider).

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Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2218#comment:11&gt;
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