#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: Systems Admin | Keywords:
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Received an e-mail from skampus at gmail dot com with the following
content, I do not know if the problem was due to the update done on
osgeo6:
mail content:
hi,
it seems that someone has hacked all the QGIS mailing lists on nabble,
deleting posts and sending spam.
the original mailing list mails were not damaged [1], but only on nabble.
is it possible to do something?
thank you
[1] The QGIS-Developer June 2021 Archive by thread
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Sent from http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
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Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
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Comment (by andreaerdna):
It seems now that:
1) the QGIS and probably all other OSGeo forums on Nabble don't retrieve
and store anymore the incoming messages from the associated mailing lists
2) the messages posted in the forums, by users subscribed also to the
mailing lists, are not forwarded anymore to the associated mailing lists
3) the text of a lot of messages which was previously available in the
forums result unavailable and replaced with "CONTENTS DELETED The author
has deleted this message."
See, for example:
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/QGIS-Developer-no-collections-
displayed-in-wfs3-td5488872.html
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/QGIS-Developer-It-s-time-to-
contribute-to-the-Changelog-for-QGIS-3-20-td5488144.html
This is also very bad because now it is impossible to make a text search
among the messages already posted, reducing dramatically the knowledge
accumulated over the years in the mailing lists.
The third issue was reported also for other forums on Nabble:
http://support.nabble.com/CONTENTS-DELETED-td7609604.html
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: Systems Admin | Resolution: fixed
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Changes (by jsanz):
* status: new => closed
* resolution: => fixed
Comment:
Looks like the underlying issue has been fixed and contents show up again.
http://support.nabble.com/CONTENTS-DELETED-tp7609604p7609697.html
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: Systems Admin | Resolution: fixed
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Comment (by andreaerdna):
jsanz: are the forums on Nabble retrieving the incoming messages from the
associated mailing lists and the messages posted in the forums, by users
subscribed also to the mailing lists, forwarded to the associated mailing
lists?
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: reopened
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: Systems Admin | Resolution:
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Changes (by jsanz):
* status: closed => reopened
* resolution: fixed =>
Comment:
Sorry Andrea, you are definitely right. As you can see in the topics view
for the full organization, no new content is being archived by Nabble.
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OSGeo-org-f3681316.topics.html
This takes us again to the point of having to consider Nabble as a broken
service that is in fact not under OSGeo's full control. You can read more
about the status of the service and the troubles the maintainers are
facing on this thread
http://support.nabble.com/The-Future-of-Nabble-td7605923.html
Nabble has been very useful to provide more friendly access to the mailing
lists archives, but unfortunately, I don't see how we can continue
leveraging it.
Any ideas are welcome.
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: reopened
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Comment (by jsanz):
I've added a note in the Nabble front page pointing to this issue and
stating that at this moment Nabble is not receiving posts from the server.
On the other hand, admins from QGIS and GDAL are re-enabling posting on
Nabble on the forums they have permissions, overriding the global
settings. For that reason, I won't do any more spam cleaning work there.
[[Image(https://i.imgur.com/OuNmyqi.png)]]
[[Image(https://i.imgur.com/1UcJWzn.png)]]
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: reopened
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: Systems Admin | Resolution:
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Comment (by andreaerdna):
Maybe admins from QGIS and GDAL forum on Nabble are not aware of the
reason of the issue and they are trying to fix it changing the
permissions.
Could it be the case to case to contact them (and all other admins), if
somebody knows their addresses?
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: reopened
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: Systems Admin | Resolution:
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Changes (by jsanz):
* cc: jmckenna@…, cavallini@…, aborruso@…, matteo.ghetta@…, jm.deegree@…
(added)
Comment:
Fair enough Andrea, added the addresses of the Nabble listed admin groups
as CC on this ticket.
Hi admins, please take a look at this ticket.
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
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Comment (by aborruso):
Jorge, I do not why, but aborruso@gmail.com (me) is no more a QGIS Italian
nabble admin.
Could you insert me again?
Thank you
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: reopened
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: Systems Admin | Resolution:
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Comment (by jsanz):
> Jorge, I do not why, but aborruso@gmail.com (me) is no more a QGIS
Italian nabble admin.
There is no QGIS Italian administration group, but I can confirm your
email is the global QGIS Administrator group along with Paolo and Matteo.
Not sure what may be going on, sorry.
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: reopened
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: Systems Admin | Resolution:
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Comment (by aborruso2):
Hi Jorge,
in GFoss Italy I have all
[[Image(https://i.imgur.com/cOYCimt.png)]]
In Nabble QGIS Italia I have nothing
[[Image(https://i.imgur.com/RdoIAJk.png)]]
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Hi,
I’m traveling and cannot access trac right now.
Here the error message, maybe useful to better understand what’s wrong:
This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice:
List: grass-dev
Member: lists+1327131201541-3991897@n6.nabble.com
Action: Subscription bounce score incremented.
Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces.
The triggering bounce notice is attached below.
Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at
mailman@lists.osgeo.org.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON@osgeo6.osgeo.osuosl.org>
To: grass-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 02:01:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
This is the mail system at host lists.osgeo.org.
I’m sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It’s attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
<lists+1327131201541-3991897@n6.nabble.com>: host
in1-smtp.messagingengine.com[66.111.4.70] said: 451 4.7.1
<lists+1327131201541-3991897@n6.nabble.com>: Relay access denied (in reply
to RCPT TO command)
Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2616#comment:1>
#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: reopened
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: Systems Admin | Resolution:
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Comment (by jsanz):
Replying to [comment:10 aborruso2]:
> Hi Jorge,
> in GFoss Italy I have all
> >
> In Nabble QGIS Italia I have nothing
>
Hi Andrea, sorry for the inconvenience, let me share details off this
ticket, to not share screenshots of email addresses or anything.
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#2616: GIS mailing lists on nabble
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Reporter: cvvergara | Owner: sac@…
Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: normal | Milestone: Unplanned
Component: SysAdmin/Mailman | Resolution: wontfix
Keywords: |
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Changes (by strk):
* status: reopened => closed
* resolution: => wontfix
* component: SysAdmin => SysAdmin/Mailman
Comment:
Should there be anything left to do here please reopen. 2 years seem like
a long time to deal with nabble..
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