[SAC] [OSGeo] #296: create OSGeo repository for .deb's for LiveDVD & documentation

#296: create OSGeo repository for .deb's for LiveDVD & documentation
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Reporter: tbowden | Owner: sac@lists.osgeo.org
    Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Component: SAC
Keywords: repo |
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We need to create a repo for storing OSGeo created .deb's of apps &
educational material as packaged. Target platform will (for now at least)
be Ubuntu 8.10 (due in a few weeks).

We need to find an appropriate server. Bandwidth and disk space to be
consumed currently unknown :wink:

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Hi Tim and SAC,

Please excuse me for interrupting here. IMO there is a very good platform already available for creating and maintaining .deb's: Launchpad.net [1]. Many people use it for their 'personal' packaging [2] too.
It offers a full issue tracking, collaborating and package building and hosting environment. One of the main advantages is that you can pretty much just upload your source package and the .deb files will be built and hosted automatically for the platforms you specify. People will only need to add 1 apt line to their sources.lst.

I think Launchpad would be perfect for the purpose described below.

Regards, Roald

[1] https://launchpad.net/+tour/index
[2] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas/

OSGeo wrote:

#296: create OSGeo repository for .deb's for LiveDVD & documentation
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Reporter: tbowden | Owner: sac@lists.osgeo.org
    Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Component: SAC
Keywords: repo |
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We need to create a repo for storing OSGeo created .deb's of apps &
educational material as packaged. Target platform will (for now at least)
be Ubuntu 8.10 (due in a few weeks).

We need to find an appropriate server. Bandwidth and disk space to be
consumed currently unknown :wink:

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Ticket URL: <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/296&gt;
OSGeo <http://www.osgeo.org/&gt;
OSGeo committee and general foundation issue tracker.
  

On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 05:01:40PM +1100, Roald de Wit wrote:

Hi Tim and SAC,

Please excuse me for interrupting here. IMO there is a very good
platform already available for creating and maintaining .deb's:
Launchpad.net [1]. Many people use it for their 'personal' packaging [2]
too.

The Launchpad.net terms of use do not allow for the uploading of
non-free content, according to https://help.launchpad.net/PPATermsofUse
. Currently, it is the plan to use the OSGeo repository to host
documentation which is non-commercial, as well as other software that
may not be redistributable in some circumstances. Becacuse of the
limited nature of the use of this repository, we can take a less strict
approach than Canonical needs to for solving this problem.

It is our intention to work directly with the DebianGIS developers to
move as many packages as would be appropriate into Debian itself;
however, there are some things that are going to be redistributed by us
which are not approrpriate for Launchpad deployment.

Regards,
--
Christopher Schmidt
MetaCarta

OSGeo wrote:

#296: create OSGeo repository for .deb's for LiveDVD & documentation
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Reporter: tbowden | Owner: sac@lists.osgeo.org
    Type: task | Status: new Priority: normal | Component: SAC Keywords: repo | --------------------+-------------------------------------------------------
We need to create a repo for storing OSGeo created .deb's of apps &
educational material as packaged. Target platform will (for now at least)
be Ubuntu 8.10 (due in a few weeks).

I believe we need also a new discussion list for the LiveDVD project.

My first attempt to create an instance to create packages just failed miserably. I started from the LiveDVD, installed from it, then added some packages (debian sid gdal etc.) to be able to compile some of my own packages (Perl modules mainly), ended up with Perl reporting double free errors. The probable reason for those is a mixture of older libs (perl 5.8) with newer ones (perl 5.10). A total catastrophe was then created by trying to update the older ones also. Well, I'll look into the ubuntu 8.10.

Tim, Charlie must have mentioned these: http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/education/Releases/UMass/IntroductionToGisUsingQgisV0.8

To me they look prime candidates to be put into packages for the LiveDVD.

I also added a link to the root: http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser to the main page of our wiki (panel General OSGeo) since I didn't know about that repo and don't see links to it anywhere.

Regards,

Ari

#296: create OSGeo repository for .deb's for LiveDVD & documentation
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  Reporter: tbowden | Owner: sac@lists.osgeo.org
      Type: task | Status: new
  Priority: normal | Component: SAC
Resolution: | Keywords: repo
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Comment (by warmerdam):

Tim,

Do you need any special services on this server? If all you need is http,
I'd suggest placing within download.osgeo.org where the live dvd image
already lives.

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#296: create OSGeo repository for .deb's for LiveDVD & documentation
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  Reporter: tbowden | Owner: sac@lists.osgeo.org
      Type: task | Status: new
  Priority: normal | Component: SAC
Resolution: | Keywords: repo
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Comment (by tbowden):

If we build the repo ourselves, we will need limited shell access for
whatever repo package admins we have so they can scp the src files to the
server then run the processing scripts (at least that's my limited
understanding for now).

Roald de Wit has suggested we look at Launchpad for our live DVD package
building. Looks like it takes away the need to set up our own repo if we
go down that track. Looking into it.

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Ticket URL: <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/296#comment:2&gt;
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#296: create OSGeo repository for .deb's for LiveDVD & documentation
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  Reporter: tbowden | Owner: sac@lists.osgeo.org
      Type: task | Status: new
  Priority: normal | Component: SAC
Resolution: | Keywords: repo
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Comment (by hamish):

fwiw, the DebianGIS Alioth SVN is available to host build scripts etc. but
not .debs for download.

DebianGIS no longer runs its own file repository; packaged .debs are now
pushed directly into one of unstable, experimental, or backports.org.

see
   http://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis/LiveImages
   http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-grass/packages/debian-gis/

To maximize developer effect, it is my hope that, as much as possible, the
ubuntu & debian liveCD build scripts can be drawn from a common source.

Hamish

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#296: create OSGeo repository for .deb's for LiveDVD & documentation
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Reporter: tbowden | Owner: sac@…
    Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Component: Systems Admin
Keywords: repo |
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Comment(by crschmidt):

The LiveCD currently has hosting via download.osgeo.org. Is hosting a
Debian archive for LiveCD packages still something people are interested
in, or has the process for building the LiveCD moved past this point?

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Ticket URL: <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/296#comment:4&gt;
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#296: create OSGeo repository for .deb's for LiveDVD & documentation
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  Reporter: tbowden | Owner: sac@…
      Type: task | Status: closed
  Priority: normal | Component: LiveDVD
Resolution: wontfix | Keywords: repo
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Changes (by hamish):

  * status: new => closed
  * resolution: => wontfix
  * component: Systems Admin => LiveDVD

Comment:

speaking on behalf of both the DebianGIS and LiveDVD teams, it is not a
pressing priority right now AFAICS; if it was I`d have already set it up
:wink:
UbubtuGIS have their ppa.launchpad if needed and they are very osGeo
friendly.

taking the liberty of closing this request as obsolete. if the edu team
still need some space, just ask.

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