[SAC] OSGeo archives at Nabble (Re: Taking ownership)

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Hi all,

Is this waiting for more infrastructure migration or a SAC meeting?

If not, with no discussion for a month, does the below mean that
Mateusz should set the owner as info at osgeo.org and himself and
others as admins? From these threads,
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-September/003319.html and
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-October/003406.html, it
sounds like at least Jeff and Jorge are interested as admins.

Once we have a new owner and admins, perhaps the admins could close
these tickets:
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/813
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/817

It sounds like once SAC gives some guidance, Mateusz and Peter can
coordinate to complete this work.

Thanks, Eli

Sun Sep 25 13:32:25 EDT 2011

On 24/09/11 19:26, Alex Mandel wrote:

But I also agree we should put a second contact on there. We could give
them info at osgeo.org, but I'm not sure if thats best way. Anyone else
have an idea.

Folks,

Here is my recent chat with Peter from Nabble:

Peter: You can have only one owner but as many admins you wish.
Me: Now, if we know who to make the owner, can we send you the details?
Peter: Sure.

It means, Peter is ready to accept details of new owner of the OSGeo
archives at Nabble.

Best regards,
--
Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net
Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org
Member of ACCU, http://accu.org

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On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:

Hi all,

Is this waiting for more infrastructure migration or a SAC meeting?

If not, with no discussion for a month, does the below mean that
Mateusz should set the owner as info at osgeo.org and himself and
others as admins? From these threads,
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-September/003319.html and
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-October/003406.html, it
sounds like at least Jeff and Jorge are interested as admins.

Once we have a new owner and admins, perhaps the admins could close
these tickets:
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/813
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/817

It sounds like once SAC gives some guidance, Mateusz and Peter can
coordinate to complete this work.

Eli,

I've been trying to stay out of this, leaving it to those with more interest
though I suppose it might fall into the area of responsibility of the mailman
admins (myself and Alan as I understand it). I would prefer not using the
info@osgeo.org alias for nabble admin if it is intended to be handled by
others. It is easy to set up a nabble@osgeo.org alias forwarding to whoever
wants to be in charge.

Ideally Alex as chair would facilitate a decision on this matter.

Best regards,
--
---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam@pobox.com
light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam
and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Software Developer

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On 11/02/2011 02:04 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:

Hi all,

Is this waiting for more infrastructure migration or a SAC meeting?

If not, with no discussion for a month, does the below mean that
Mateusz should set the owner as info at osgeo.org and himself and
others as admins? From these threads,
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-September/003319.html and
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-October/003406.html, it
sounds like at least Jeff and Jorge are interested as admins.

Once we have a new owner and admins, perhaps the admins could close
these tickets:
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/813
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/817

It sounds like once SAC gives some guidance, Mateusz and Peter can
coordinate to complete this work.

Eli,

I've been trying to stay out of this, leaving it to those with more interest
though I suppose it might fall into the area of responsibility of the mailman
admins (myself and Alan as I understand it). I would prefer not using the
info@osgeo.org alias for nabble admin if it is intended to be handled by
others. It is easy to set up a nabble@osgeo.org alias forwarding to whoever
wants to be in charge.

Ideally Alex as chair would facilitate a decision on this matter.

Best regards,

I think it's best to have someone known to the community who is paying
attention to nabble as the primary contact. It's easy enough if they get
tired of it to pass it on.

So yes, I'll propose that Mateusz should be the primary contact, and
that Jeff and Jorge can be admins along with anyone else from SAC who
would like to be.

I'll also propose that we create a 2nd level admins list and make Mateusz a member of SAC with the specific role of Nabble manager
listed on http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Primary_Administrators

My approach is I'm fine with known community members being in charge of various pieces as long as we keep a good list of who does what. This also applies to the other conversation about Google+, Facebook, Twitter, Linked-in, 2nd Life, etc....

Why don't we give everyone until next Monday(UTC) to voice support or
opposition + alternatives to this.

Thanks,
Alex

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On 10 November 2011 05:27, Alex Mandel <alex@wildintellect.com> wrote:

On 11/02/2011 02:04 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:

Is this waiting for more infrastructure migration or a SAC meeting?

If not, with no discussion for a month, does the below mean that
Mateusz should set the owner as info at osgeo.org and himself and
others as admins? From these threads,
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-September/003319.html and
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-October/003406.html, it
sounds like at least Jeff and Jorge are interested as admins.

Once we have a new owner and admins, perhaps the admins could close
these tickets:
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/813
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/817

It sounds like once SAC gives some guidance, Mateusz and Peter can
coordinate to complete this work.

Eli,

I've been trying to stay out of this, leaving it to those with more
interest
though I suppose it might fall into the area of responsibility of the
mailman
admins (myself and Alan as I understand it). I would prefer not using the
info@osgeo.org alias for nabble admin if it is intended to be handled by
others. It is easy to set up a nabble@osgeo.org alias forwarding to
whoever
wants to be in charge.

Ideally Alex as chair would facilitate a decision on this matter.

I think it's best to have someone known to the community who is paying
attention to nabble as the primary contact. It's easy enough if they get
tired of it to pass it on.

So yes, I'll propose that Mateusz should be the primary contact, and
that Jeff and Jorge can be admins along with anyone else from SAC who
would like to be.
[...]
Why don't we give everyone until next Monday(UTC) to voice support or
opposition + alternatives to this.

The Nabble thing issue is interesting.
I don't use it myself but I assumed it is important interface for many people
in the Community. So, I thought it would be good to help with it,
but it looks Nabble has not a high priority and perhaps it's too time consuming,
thus disturbing for other tasks. Now I'm not sure if it is worth the effort.

Perhaps I should propose a survey in Discuss mailing list:
Is Nabble used at all?
Anyone interested in helping to maintain it?
etc.

Cheers,
--
Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net
Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org
Member of ACCU, http://accu.org

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El 11/11/11 13:24, Mateusz Łoskot escribió:

On 10 November 2011 05:27, Alex Mandel <alex@wildintellect.com> wrote:

On 11/02/2011 02:04 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Eli Adam <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:

Is this waiting for more infrastructure migration or a SAC meeting?

If not, with no discussion for a month, does the below mean that
Mateusz should set the owner as info at osgeo.org and himself and
others as admins? From these threads,
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-September/003319.html and
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-October/003406.html, it
sounds like at least Jeff and Jorge are interested as admins.

Once we have a new owner and admins, perhaps the admins could close
these tickets:
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/813
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/817

It sounds like once SAC gives some guidance, Mateusz and Peter can
coordinate to complete this work.

Eli,

I've been trying to stay out of this, leaving it to those with more
interest
though I suppose it might fall into the area of responsibility of the
mailman
admins (myself and Alan as I understand it). I would prefer not using the
info@osgeo.org alias for nabble admin if it is intended to be handled by
others. It is easy to set up a nabble@osgeo.org alias forwarding to
whoever
wants to be in charge.

Ideally Alex as chair would facilitate a decision on this matter.

I think it's best to have someone known to the community who is paying
attention to nabble as the primary contact. It's easy enough if they get
tired of it to pass it on.

So yes, I'll propose that Mateusz should be the primary contact, and
that Jeff and Jorge can be admins along with anyone else from SAC who
would like to be.
[...]
Why don't we give everyone until next Monday(UTC) to voice support or
opposition + alternatives to this.

The Nabble thing issue is interesting.
I don't use it myself but I assumed it is important interface for many people
in the Community. So, I thought it would be good to help with it,
but it looks Nabble has not a high priority and perhaps it's too time consuming,
thus disturbing for other tasks. Now I'm not sure if it is worth the effort.

Perhaps I should propose a survey in Discuss mailing list:
Is Nabble used at all?
Anyone interested in helping to maintain it?
etc.

Cheers,

I think it's worth, is my first entry point to search across several
mailing list at once, to provide nice links to discussion and (at least
at gvSIG mailing lists) is the way some users post as they prefer the
"forum" look and feel.

I'm still offering myself to give a hand at any responsibility level, so
if Mateusz wants to step back and the committee agrees I can be the
contact point and admin for it. If it's a lot of effort I will for sure
come here to ask for help.

Anyway the approach of having at least two points of contact is working
well on the planet and as far as we use the alias email to notify every
action, everyone on the team (Paolo Corti, Mateusz and me at least) are
aware of pending tasks.

Best

- --
Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
http://es.osgeo.org
http://jorgesanz.net
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On 11 November 2011 13:06, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas <jsanz@osgeo.org> wrote:

I'm still offering myself to give a hand at any responsibility level, so
if Mateusz wants to step back and the committee agrees I can be the
contact point and admin for it. If it's a lot of effort I will for sure
come here to ask for help.

Jorge,

Thanks for the offer.
I'd be happy to leave the Nabble to you.
I can be second admin/contact.

Anyway the approach of having at least two points of contact is working
well on the planet and as far as we use the alias email to notify every
action, everyone on the team (Paolo Corti, Mateusz and me at least) are
aware of pending tasks.

Yes, I agree.

(I finally have to get back access to my SSH accounts, still haven't
sorted the certs.)

Best regards,
--
Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

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Jorge,

Thanks for the offer.
I’d be happy to leave the Nabble to you.
I can be second admin/contact.

Jorge, Mat
If you need some help here too, consider adding me as another contact as well

Ciao
P

–
Paolo Corti
Geospatial software developer
web: http://www.paolocorti.net
twitter: @capooti

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On 11-11-11 05:06 AM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote:

I think it's worth, is my first entry point to search across several
mailing list at once, to provide nice links to discussion and (at least
at gvSIG mailing lists) is the way some users post as they prefer the
"forum" look and feel.

I'm still offering myself to give a hand at any responsibility level, so
if Mateusz wants to step back and the committee agrees I can be the
contact point and admin for it. If it's a lot of effort I will for sure
come here to ask for help.

Anyway the approach of having at least two points of contact is working
well on the planet and as far as we use the alias email to notify every
action, everyone on the team (Paolo Corti, Mateusz and me at least) are
aware of pending tasks.

Jorge,

With Mateusz' support, I would we establish you as primarily responsible
for Nabble at OSGeo. I have made a preliminary note to this effect at the
end of:

   http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Mailing_Lists

I encourage you to launch into this role, and make notes either in the
above Wiki page or if there is enough material to setup a complimentary
wiki page. If you need a single administrator email address for Nabble
administration I would be happy to setup a nabble@osgeo.org alias. I
am hesitant to use info@osgeo.org though we could if you want. It's just
that Howard and I would need to manually forward all nabble related email.

As the administrator of the gdal-dev mailing list I have had the impression
that posting through nabble to this list is not working. I vaguely suspect
this is because gdal-dev was migrated from maptools.org to osgeo.org without
any corresponding update at Nabble. Time permitting perhaps you could look
into this problem.

I can file an OSGeo / SAC ticket on the issue if needed.

Best regards,
--
---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam@pobox.com
light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/warmerda
and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Software Developer

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On 12 November 2011 21:25, Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam@pobox.com> wrote:

...

Jorge,

With Mateusz' support, I would we establish you as primarily responsible
for Nabble at OSGeo. I have made a preliminary note to this effect at the
end of:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Mailing_Lists

OK, great

I encourage you to launch into this role, and make notes either in the
above Wiki page or if there is enough material to setup a complimentary
wiki page. If you need a single administrator email address for Nabble
administration I would be happy to setup a nabble@osgeo.org alias. I
am hesitant to use info@osgeo.org though we could if you want. It's just
that Howard and I would need to manually forward all nabble related email.

nabble@osgeo.org is sensible so this matters won't disturb you

As the administrator of the gdal-dev mailing list I have had the impression
that posting through nabble to this list is not working. I vaguely suspect
this is because gdal-dev was migrated from maptools.org to osgeo.org without
any corresponding update at Nabble. Time permitting perhaps you could look
into this problem.

I can file an OSGeo / SAC ticket on the issue if needed.

Well if the list is being archived it should work but file a ticket
and I'll check as soon as possible.

Cheers

--
Jorge Sanz
http://es.osgeo.org

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My earlier messages may not have been received, but here it goes again: I believe Nabble is used often, and I am offering my assistance to help maintain this.

-jeff

On 11-11-11 9:06 AM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote:

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El 11/11/11 13:24, Mateusz Łoskot escribió:

On 10 November 2011 05:27, Alex Mandel<alex@wildintellect.com> wrote:

On 11/02/2011 02:04 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Eli Adam<eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:

Is this waiting for more infrastructure migration or a SAC meeting?

If not, with no discussion for a month, does the below mean that
Mateusz should set the owner as info at osgeo.org and himself and
others as admins? From these threads,
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-September/003319.html and
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2011-October/003406.html, it
sounds like at least Jeff and Jorge are interested as admins.

Once we have a new owner and admins, perhaps the admins could close
these tickets:
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/813
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/817

It sounds like once SAC gives some guidance, Mateusz and Peter can
coordinate to complete this work.

Eli,

I've been trying to stay out of this, leaving it to those with more
interest
though I suppose it might fall into the area of responsibility of the
mailman
admins (myself and Alan as I understand it). I would prefer not using the
info@osgeo.org alias for nabble admin if it is intended to be handled by
others. It is easy to set up a nabble@osgeo.org alias forwarding to
whoever
wants to be in charge.

Ideally Alex as chair would facilitate a decision on this matter.

I think it's best to have someone known to the community who is paying
attention to nabble as the primary contact. It's easy enough if they get
tired of it to pass it on.

So yes, I'll propose that Mateusz should be the primary contact, and
that Jeff and Jorge can be admins along with anyone else from SAC who
would like to be.
[...]
Why don't we give everyone until next Monday(UTC) to voice support or
opposition + alternatives to this.

The Nabble thing issue is interesting.
I don't use it myself but I assumed it is important interface for many people
in the Community. So, I thought it would be good to help with it,
but it looks Nabble has not a high priority and perhaps it's too time consuming,
thus disturbing for other tasks. Now I'm not sure if it is worth the effort.

Perhaps I should propose a survey in Discuss mailing list:
Is Nabble used at all?
Anyone interested in helping to maintain it?
etc.

Cheers,

I think it's worth, is my first entry point to search across several
mailing list at once, to provide nice links to discussion and (at least
at gvSIG mailing lists) is the way some users post as they prefer the
"forum" look and feel.

I'm still offering myself to give a hand at any responsibility level, so
if Mateusz wants to step back and the committee agrees I can be the
contact point and admin for it. If it's a lot of effort I will for sure
come here to ask for help.

Anyway the approach of having at least two points of contact is working
well on the planet and as far as we use the alias email to notify every
action, everyone on the team (Paolo Corti, Mateusz and me at least) are
aware of pending tasks.

Best

- --
Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
http://es.osgeo.org
http://jorgesanz.net
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On 14 November 2011 23:18, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:

My earlier messages may not have been received, but here it goes again: I
believe Nabble is used often, and I am offering my assistance to help
maintain this.

-jeff

Hi Jeff,

Three people (Mat, Paolo and me) should be enough but if we need help
we will count with you. Thanks!!

--
Jorge Sanz
http://es.osgeo.org

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Hello Jorge (and all),

I don't see the OSGeo Standards list[1] as part of the Nabble forum[2].
Could it be added to the forum?

Thanks,

-jeff

[1] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/standards
[2] http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/