Daniel Morissette wrote:
WebCom,
Does OSGeo have a clear policy with respect to registration and management of internet domain names? Should all OSGeo-related domains be owned and managed by OSGeo, or shoudl they be owned and managed by the OSGeo sub-entity (e.g. local chapter or conference committee) they relate to?
The French chapter is starting to get organized, and one of the questions that came up was the registration of the osgeo.fr domain. It's not clear whether anything would ever be hosted under osgeo.fr, but at a minimum we should get the domain and setup a redirection on it that sends visitors to the main French Chapter page on the osgeo.org servers.
My question is: should the osgeo.fr domain be registered and managed by OSGeo, or by the French Chapter members? And if OSGeo is the answer then who is the contact? Tyler?
Daniel,
I don't know what the answer is. 
OSGeo currently maintains the osgeo.org, osgeo.net, osgeo.org, foss4g2007.org
and foss4g2008.org domains via pairnic. The responsibility, I think, lies with
SAC rather than WebCom.
Any SAC http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/SAC:Primary_Administrators has the
capacity to register a dns entry with pairnic using the OSGeo account. I
would suggest filing SAC tickets to get one registered.
I'm really not all that keen on us maintaining DNS entries in many countries,
but if we are going to have some of them, I think it would be most convenient
to have them registered by OSGeo itself. So, assuming no one feels strongly
that it shouldn't be done, I don't see any harm in us registering osgeo.fr
and pointing it whereever the Francophone chapter sees fit.
Best regards,
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On 11-Oct-07, at 10:49 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
I think it would be most convenient
to have them registered by OSGeo itself. So, assuming no one feels strongly
that it shouldn't be done, I don't see any harm in us registering osgeo.fr
and pointing it whereever the Francophone chapter sees fit.
I agree.
Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
On 11-Oct-07, at 10:49 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
I think it would be most convenient
to have them registered by OSGeo itself. So, assuming no one feels strongly
that it shouldn't be done, I don't see any harm in us registering osgeo.fr
and pointing it whereever the Francophone chapter sees fit.
I agree.
Thanks Frank and Tyler. I'll get back to the French chapter members with that info and will create a SAC ticket if they decide to go ahead. Another question that I just thought about was whether you need an address in France to register a .fr domain, in which case it would not be possible for OSGeo to register/manage osgeo.fr.
Daniel
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On 11-Oct-07, at 11:29 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
Another question that I just thought about was whether you need an address in France to register a .fr domain, in which case it would not be possible for OSGeo to register/manage osgeo.fr.
Good question, otherwise we can copy our other contact info from osgeo.org.
Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
Good question, otherwise we can copy our other contact info from osgeo.org.
Talking of osgeo.* contact info:
1- The current Admin and Tech contacts for the domains are individuals with their personal email addresses (JasonB and ShawnB). I realize Jason is very active and have no doubt about his commitment to OSGeo, but shouldn't we at least use an email alias for one of the admin or tech email address which would go to all SAC admins (http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/SAC:Primary_Administrators) so that we do not risk missing a renewal or other important notices if their personal email addresses change or they are away for other reasons?
2- The phone number for Shawn Barnes on all domains is wrong, the last two digits are reversed. It should be +1-613-565-5056 (and not 5065)
3- osgeo.net still has Gary Lang's address for the tech contact email.
Daniel
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Rationalizing the contact info would be a good idea; feel free to change
mine.
I think that SAC may not have been formalized at that time, and the
logic was around having WebCom on the contact info. Or maybe it was
just that I was involved in the server migration, and got put in there
by default.
However, I don't think that the contacts should ever have an osgeo.org
email address. That's just a bad idea for all kinds of reasons.
Jason
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Subject: [SAC] OSGeo and internet domains
Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
Good question, otherwise we can copy our other contact info from
osgeo.org.
Talking of osgeo.* contact info:
1- The current Admin and Tech contacts for the domains are individuals
with their personal email addresses (JasonB and ShawnB). I realize Jason
is very active and have no doubt about his commitment to OSGeo, but
shouldn't we at least use an email alias for one of the admin or tech
email address which would go to all SAC admins
(http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/SAC:Primary_Administrators) so that we
do not risk missing a renewal or other important notices if their
personal email addresses change or they are away for other reasons?
2- The phone number for Shawn Barnes on all domains is wrong, the last
two digits are reversed. It should be +1-613-565-5056 (and not 5065)
3- osgeo.net still has Gary Lang's address for the tech contact email.
Daniel
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All good points. I've not been monitoring how they are working, I hope SAC and others on this list can come up with a good conclusion.
Tyler
On 11-Oct-07, at 1:18 PM, Jason Birch wrote:
Rationalizing the contact info would be a good idea; feel free to change
mine.
I think that SAC may not have been formalized at that time, and the
logic was around having WebCom on the contact info. Or maybe it was
just that I was involved in the server migration, and got put in there
by default.
However, I don't think that the contacts should ever have an osgeo.org
email address. That's just a bad idea for all kinds of reasons.
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]
On Behalf Of Daniel Morissette
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 13:05
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: [SAC] OSGeo and internet domains
Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
Good question, otherwise we can copy our other contact info from
osgeo.org.
Talking of osgeo.* contact info:
1- The current Admin and Tech contacts for the domains are individuals
with their personal email addresses (JasonB and ShawnB). I realize Jason
is very active and have no doubt about his commitment to OSGeo, but
shouldn't we at least use an email alias for one of the admin or tech
email address which would go to all SAC admins
(http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/SAC:Primary_Administrators) so that we
do not risk missing a renewal or other important notices if their
personal email addresses change or they are away for other reasons?
2- The phone number for Shawn Barnes on all domains is wrong, the last
two digits are reversed. It should be +1-613-565-5056 (and not 5065)
3- osgeo.net still has Gary Lang's address for the tech contact email.
Daniel
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Hi all
I've seen Osgeo.es is still free. But I'm not sure it can be bought by an international organization without any formal link to Spain.
Maybe Jorge has a better knowledge about it.
Markus, you have osgeo.it registered, is there in Italy the same problem? Once it was a problem.
In this case it would make sense, I guess, to have a local buyer and a OSGeo Technical Contact, or vice versa.
About foss4g domains I would suggest to buy more then year by year.
If it make sense to worry about any joker buying some OSGeo related domain for whatever interest, I would suggest to buy even:
foss4g2010.org
foss4g2011.org
foss4g2012.org
foss4g2013.org
foss4g2014.org
and so on...
probably 5 year could be enough to have time to change the name, eventually.
my 0.02€
ciao
Lorenzo
Daniel Morissette wrote:
Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
On 11-Oct-07, at 10:49 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
I think it would be most convenient
to have them registered by OSGeo itself. So, assuming no one feels strongly
that it shouldn't be done, I don't see any harm in us registering osgeo.fr
and pointing it whereever the Francophone chapter sees fit.
I agree.
Thanks Frank and Tyler. I'll get back to the French chapter members with that info and will create a SAC ticket if they decide to go ahead. Another question that I just thought about was whether you need an address in France to register a .fr domain, in which case it would not be possible for OSGeo to register/manage osgeo.fr.
Daniel